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I know we're discouraged from injecting MMS/CDS/CDH. I have watched that one YT video of the guy injecting himself with, I believe, MMS, but despite watching it several times I still do not know how to do it. I need to learn how to do this before it's needed because my dentist is willing to inject CDS for me when/if I should need a round of antibiotics to treat oral infection. I want to be prepared. Would MMS or CDH work as well? If so, how do we do that?

I do have some info on injecting CDS, but I am still uncertain about how much salt or baking soda, or whatever, to add, or if we need to add something at all to the full strength CDS. Do we inject it full strength?

So now I have my first batch of CDH. So, of course I'd like to try to use CDH whenever possible. (I will use it tomorrow for the first time in enema water.)

Can someone please explain precisely how I would instruct my dentist to inject CDS? And what about injecting MMS or CDH? If this is "controversial" information and you happen to know how to do this, but you do not want to risk making your response to my question public, please PM me.

joyce

IMHO, the injection would be more painful than having the work done without anesthesia.

I think that the abcessed tooth protocol would be much better.
www.michaelharrah.us/michael-harrah/info-sheets-michael-harrah/68-abscessed-tooth-protocol

I had MMS injected into my upper arm by a friend, when Arch Mark and Bishop Jon were here. Mark prepared the injection When the first bit went in it was extremely painful for a few seconds, then it was a bearable pain for about 10 minutes and then the pain stopped. The next day My arm was numb most of the time but I felt great.

When I got the shot the guy who got injected before me was lying on the floor screaming badly, after they did me he was still on the floor but managed to get into a chair with some help. He howled for at least an hour.

The thing to remember is to get the ph right before you inject. Shud be less painful then.

To correct myself, I had forgoten about this episode until I read Joyce1’s post, so let me correct myself, the guy who was injected before me, wasn’t really lying on the floor but was more like he was crouched in pain on the floor, until he was helped. Then although he howled for more than an hour, he was still whimpering in pain a couple hours later when I dropped him off. He told me he hardly slept because of the pain, but he looked fresh the next morning.

Surprisingly a couple days later he wanted to take another shot, but I don’t think anyone was prepared to watch him go through it again, so he never did get another injection.

Would I do it again? For a boost NO, you should get the same results using conventional methods of getting MMS into the body, be it not as intense as quickly. But not that much difference, long term IMHO, compared to using as many Protocols as possible in small doses regularly, (ie by mouth, enema, bathe, gas and spray combinations). But if all other conventional methods of using MMS had failed yes I would do it again.

This is not for the feint hearted.

Although.
Once the injecting was done a discussion took place and the consensus was that pherhaps if the ph levels were adjusted may be less pain involved.

revrob,
I appreciate hearing your detailed first-hand experiences on injecting MMS.

In the March 2013 Mexico MMS seminar, Andreas Kalcker showed us where to stick a needle (carefully selected spot on an upper butt cheek), but he did not elaborate on the details of how to do it. He said that he believes it's not a good idea for us to do injections without proper medical supervision because all it will take to shut down G2C is one injection gone wrong.

Mark Grenon was also present at the seminar but he did not present anything on injecting - although I later learned that Mark does not agree with Andreas. And I can see, according to your experience at Mark's seminar, that he is openly and freely demonstrating injections on willing subjects.

All this said, people will still privately experiment to improve and develop protocols. I'm not that brave, but I am interested in what other's are learning, so I'm open and wanting to learn. I am not satisfied with simply being told "Don't do it." The nature of this community is to be on the leading edge of health restoration. It's obviously better to have experimenting going on in "controlled groups" - like what Scott and his wife et al have done with CDH. But back to the injections…

From what you're saying, the ph could have been the cause of the painful injections. I hope someone can come up with exact information on how to adjust the ph, and how to inject in a way that is safe and relatively pain-free. LIke I said, I will not experiment, but I would be willing to explain the procedure to my open-minded medical professionals, like my dentist.

THanks, again, rev rob for relaying your experience!
joyce

I think I need to just give a little more detail here. I don’t want to give names and specifics as this is something we are using now… more later.

I have been involved in alternative therapies for 15 years now, three of those with G2C and two more years before joining the church I started using CLO2 (MMS). My friend of 20 years who is a MD with his own hospital and more than 30 years of practice behind him and a string of degrees, was they guy who injected us. (It was not the first time he has injected me with something.) and then Arch Mark Grenon who has years of experience assisting and doing procedures with doctors in 3rd world countries (he has worked on hundreds of patients in clinical settings), Mark knows more than most doctors I know and I know a few (my wife of 14 years, is also a MD, with two MASTERS degrees in medicine) and we have plenty of friends who are doctors.

Before this guy got to SA for the seminar we had already spoken and arranged with my friend to do the shots, as he came to get injected. Mark was not involved at this stage, he only became involved once he arrived, long after we had planned to get injections.

This is not something you just do, it is serious and needs to be done with care.

Sorry if I was a bit short on these details, but Arch Mark would never do anything to threaten the church. As I know him he is a professional who knows what he is doing and is calculated at doing it.
It was never his idea to inject us, we had planned to do this even without his support it would have happened.

Hope this makes things a bit clearer, my aim was to let people know this is not something just anybody should do.

Bishop Rob Stuart
Chapter 170
South Africa

I greatly appreciate your giving more background on this situation!
joyce