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Pharmaceuticals and Alternative pain relief? 02 Dec 2018 15:49 #59512

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Hi everyone. I'm fairly new to the forum, and to MMS (although I'm reading as much of Jim's and Mark's books as I can). I have to say this has certainly been an eye-opener. I could really do with some advice. My mother currently has stage 4 Cervical Cancer which has spread to parts of the lymphatic system and other areas of the pelvis.
I'm trying to give her MMS, but we're really concerned about the pharmaceuticals neutralising the treatment (No radiation or chemo though. She's currently on:
Oxycodone 5mg (Opioid). Take orally on request.
Pregabalin (9 am & 9 pm).
Dexamethasone (9 am). Steroid
Omeprazole (9 am and 9pm) anti acid SenEase 7.5mg (laxative)
Docusate/Dioctyl (laxative)
Fentanyl Patch (75 mcg per hour, every 3 days)
Paracetamol (4 times a day)
Phosphate enema (every 3 days)
Due to a recent chest infection, she has also been on a 48 hour course of antibiotics (need to confirm which)
I know all of these cause damage and act as immune suppressors, but I was wondering if there is there anything here that has been specifically known to neutralise MMS?Does anyone have any suggestions for safely getting off the meds?
I'm looking for alternatives, but pure cannabis extract may not be an option (we're in the UK). I was wondering if anybody knew of alternative pain relief that wouldn't get in the way?
I've read that topical DMSO and Capsicum pepper have been used to treat phantom limb pain, but I was wondering if the MMS would then be neutralized by the antioxidants?
I was also considering Protocol 6 and 6 but she hasn't completed the starting procedure yet, and she's very cautious about the Herxheimer's reaction.
Any thoughts or suggestions would be a huge help.

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Pharmaceuticals and Alternative pain relief? 02 Dec 2018 20:13 #59514

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smitsky, since we have no idea what all those meds might do to MMS, I suggest to finish the Starting procedure and follow the HRP. Increase dosing until there is a Herx problem, then back off. If those meds are reducing CLO2, you can make up for the loss by increasing MMS dosage. 

I hope you are using hourly-made MMS1 doses and using 4% HCL activator and not 50% citric acid. 

Keep us up to date. Thanks.

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Pharmaceuticals and Alternative pain relief? 03 Dec 2018 13:28 #59520

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Hi, thank you so much for your help. She's agreed to take MMS but the chest infection is really bad (Septecemia is expected), and she may only have a few days to live. I'm going to do the cup protocol and the one week left to live protocol.  If things get worse could I do the starting procedur/one week to live topically with DMSO? 

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You can add DMSO on top of MMS1 topically. If DMSO causes any skin irritation, add a little water on top to dilute it. 

There isn't much CLO2 in MMS1 topically, about 10% of the available, so you might want to try CDH topically which has 50% CLO2 for external use. CDH is very easy to make and if you use hot water, it will be ready in a short time. 

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Pharmaceuticals and Alternative pain relief? 03 Dec 2018 23:20 #59524

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Hi CLO2
Thanks that's great to hear. Sorry, I completely forgot to respond to your first reply. Yes the MMS is with an HCL activator ( bought from an official Genesis 2 Church provider).

Just wanted to give an update. She couldn't handle the eighth dose, but I think there's some progress.
Here's the timeline:
  • 1:37: 1/8th drop dose. Followed by the lung/cup protocol at 2:10
  • 2:37 1/8th drop dose.
  • 3:37 1/4 drop dose
  • 4:37 1/4 drop dose.
After this she had diarrhea. At first, I wasn't sure if this was somehow related to the infection, or if it was a Herxheimer (I didn't want to be too hopeful). I asked the nurse if it was related to her chest infection/septicemia, and she seemed to think it was either due to a stomach bug, or the antibiotics she was on.
I want to think it was due to MMS. Because she's already suffering from fever symptoms, it is difficult to tell whether or not anything is triggered by MMS.
  • 5:37 ½ drop dose
  • 6:37 1/drop dose
  • 7:30 ish brief break to attempt to eat
  • 8:00: ½ drop dose. A ¾ drop dose was attempted but she said she couldn't.
Later on, I asked her if she would be happy to do the second half of the lung protocol. She said just the thought made her feel nauseous, so I'm guessing/hoping the MMS is having some effect despite the pharmaceuticals.
She continued to cough so I gave her some Montmorillonite clay as suggested in the Lung Protocol.

Pain reliefWe're still going to try and get her off as many meds as humanly possible. The DMSO Gel with Chilli and Ginger seems to have relieved pain. She was offered Oxycodone earlier today and decided to turn it down.. Tomorrow, she's going to try to minimize the use of pharmaceuticals and see how much can be replaced naturally. Thanks once again.

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Pharmaceuticals and Alternative pain relief? 04 Dec 2018 04:42 #59525

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Thanks for the update. There are reports of some people beating stage 4 cancers taking only 1/2 drop MMS1 doses. Don't give up!   :-) 

You may want to consider this protocol taken from the 2015 MMS seminar workbook. CDH could be used in place of CDS. 

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