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Horse with sarcoids? 27 May 2012 23:51 #17833

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Hello again!

Back with my horse problem! I have a horse diagnosed with "sarcoid like"! Go figure. It is occultic. Most of his chest has no hair and is nasty looking. Also an area under a front leg no hair and nasty looking. Two huge areas on his neck minus most of his hair. These are all occultic in nature. He has growths on both nostrils which tend to bleed. Now, just the other day I discovered a lump under his jaw. Over the past few years I have tried doing things topically with minor sucess and a lot of effort! Am thinking of doing CDS internally or should I use MMS. I am very afraid of colic as horses do not vomit.

Any suggestions and dosage information would be most helpful, as well as how often to administer it.

I have uploaded some old photos. Hope they turn out. His condition is much worse since I took these pictures back in 2010.

Thank you again for any help anyone can give!

PS His name is Little Fella and he is about 20 years old.
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Re: Horse with sarcoids? 28 May 2012 01:34 #17834

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We have horses and are at present treating both for a cough and snotty nose(s) with 5 cc's of CDS 6000 ppm + 15 drop mix of mms 3 times a day mixed in beet pulp/ alfalfa cube mix (soaked) . Both horses have improved greatly. We are continuing just to make sure they're better (and wormed for this year).

I was treating a cow with mastitis with just CDS (10 cc's 6000 ppm) with improvement but she seemed to plateau. So I switched to CDS ( first 5 cc's , now 7 cc's ) + 20 drops of mms. She had a marked increase in improvement. She gave birth a month ago is nursing on the left side - the calf is thriving. This experience leads me to believe that a mixture of mms + CDS is more powerful than just CDS.

Should you choose - start low dosages and work up, observing Little Fella's progress. I have seen no ill affects - on myself or my animals - what have you got to lose?
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Re: Horse with sarcoids? 28 May 2012 11:25 #17852

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Thank you so much for replying so quickly! You have given me a real good starting place! Never thought of mixing CDS with MMS. Good idea! And, you are right. What have I got to loose? As I told the farrier the other day you may have one less soon. My fear is that all of a sudden he will be in misery and it will not be a pretty death. I'd rather not go there! Right now he seems to be feeling okay but not good. Though he is active he seems to not have a "joy in life" for lack of better being able to put my finger on it.
Thank you again and I will do as you say. Will keep everyone posted! Will try and take some current photos as well so we all have a reference to go by!

PS: I had posted about our dog "Lady" who is at 10 drops which is a lot for her. If she plateaus I will mix CDS and MMS for her as well and will post results in the appropriate thread!
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Re: Horse with sarcoids? 28 May 2012 12:11 #17857

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We have experienced spectacular results in healing severe cuts with topical sprays of MMS. The wounds just seem to close up and heal on all ages of horses, You might try a spray treatment. we use 20 drops of activated MMS per ounce of water and spray twice daily, after washing out the injury with the water hose. I would at least try this approach and give it enough time to see any results.

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How did you administer the MMS/CDS for the mastitis case?
if you could infuse directly into the udder, I wouldn't expect a plateau.
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Re: Horse with sarcoids? 28 May 2012 13:22 #17860

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Neula - the cow - was treated with the CDS and then CDS/mms by just mixing it into soaked alfalfa cubes 3 times a day.

Yes I agree that infusions directly to the udder would have speed the process up. But she is a wild Highland cow , I don't have isolation corrals or a crush ( I only have a herd of 10, 3 brood cows, a bull, and offspring). This breed believes in social justice - you mess with one - they bellow - and you're dealing with the entire herd - demanding an explanation. So I'm committing healthcare by stealth.
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Re: Horse with sarcoids? 28 May 2012 17:09 #17872

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fourfingerz, when you say CDS/MMS mixture, are you talking activated MMS or are you talking about unactivated MMS?

I think the problem with cattle and MMS or CDS is that with the 4 stomachs and regurgitation, they were not getting the benefit (somehow) - Andreas discusses it in his first video, where we were introduced to CDS.

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fourfingerz, when you say CDS/MMS mixture, are you talking activated MMS or are you talking about unactivated MMS?

I think the problem with cattle and MMS or CDS is that with the 4 stomachs and regurgitation, they were not getting the benefit (somehow) - Andreas discusses it in his first video, where we were introduced to CDS.

Pam,

I'm speaking of activated mms.

Yes I know Andrea’s discussion and I had thought there was no treatment other than injection of CDS for Neula.

Then in January Wil spoke of treating cows with mms (AOT) here on the forum. So - I gave it a try - and she's getting better (more rapidly now with the mix of mms/CDS). So much for the theory on ruminants :lol:

I'm sure that injection of CDS would be the most rapid recovery. But it would be the most traumatizing for her and I would only be able to rope her once.

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Re: Horse with sarcoids? 10 Jun 2012 14:16 #18500

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Oltex,
Hello!
I will be starting your suggestion today June 10. I tried just CDS and DMSO and no change. I will do your suggestion of 20 activated drops plus CDS and DMSO and see what happens. At the same time he will be getting orally CDS 10 ml, and as of today starting MMS at 1 drop activated. The oral part I will probably do 3 times a day and skin spray 2 times a day as he must feel sensitive to it. I sprayed it on my arm that had open sores on it (bug bites) and felt nothing but he got a little antsy about it.
Sincerely,
Denise

Thank you and everybody else for all your helpful suggestions and testimonies!
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