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Westie with lung tumor 08 Feb 2018 06:44 #57539

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Thanks for the dosing clarification.

Yes, I think the dosing on page 300, 1.5–2.5–2.0 is a mistake. It must be 1.5–2.5–4.0

When making MMS1 and you activate for 30 seconds, CLO2 is escaping from the mixing container during the entire 30 second time period. When making CDH that does not happen because as soon at the last ingredient is added to the bottle, the cap goes on, so no CLO2 can escape. Yes, every time you open a bottle of CDH some CLO2 can escape, especially if the temperature of the CDH is above 10C (50F).

You can transfer CDH to much smaller bottles after the 12+ hour activation period so the entire stock of CDH won't be opened up to the atmosphere every time you need to take out a dose. Before you do that, cool the CDH down to at least 10C (50F) in a fridge.

When I take out a dose of CDH, I take off the bottle cap and my left thumb immediately covers the bottle top. I only remove my thumb when I insert a syringe or pipette into the bottle (using my right hand), take out a dose and when that is done, my thumb again covers the bottle top and then the cap goes back on. The bottle is opened to the air for only a few seconds.

Less CLO2 will escape when in a water solution such as CDH or CDS, than when making MMS1 because there is no water for CLO2 to combine with during the 30 second activation period. CLO2 is happy to stay in a cold water solution!

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Westie with lung tumor 10 Feb 2018 10:29 #57558

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That's really useful advice, we will start making it up as you suggest. I think the problem all along has been that the dose is weaker than it needs to be, by the time it actually gets into her mouth.

We will get her up to the 4.0ml out of Cup2 as well. In your estimation, what is the greatest amount out of the Cup 2 that we could give an 8.5kg dog who is in all other aspects (other than the coughing) fit and healthy? Shall we just keep going up and watching for vomiting to tell us she is at her limit? At what rate can we increase the dose?

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Westie with lung tumor 10 Feb 2018 22:19 #57564

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On page 305 in Jim Humble's newest book you will find this:

Three Golden Rules for Animals

1. If the animal is improving on the dosage you are giving and/or what you are doing, do not change what you are doing—as long as you see improvement, keep it up.

2. The same rule applies for animals as for people: if at any time your animal seems to get sicker on MMS, reduce the dosage you are giving by 50%. Once the sickness passes and the animal is OK with the smaller dosage, you can try to slowly work back up, but be careful to not make the animal sicker.

3. If the animal is not getting better, nor getting worse on the dosage you are giving, after two or three days, go to the next higher protocol.

I would keep slowly increasing dosing until she shows signs of distress, then reduce dosing and stay there for a few days.

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