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Hello, I just found/joined your forum and want to say thank you for all of the support and advice that is offered here. This is a wonderful community and I very much appreciate all the information that is offered, what a blessing.

Yesterday I learned that my best friend (Brady, 7 yo golden retriever) has lymphoma and according to our vet would have about 6 months to live without conventional chemotherapy. Needless to say this news was absolutely devastating. We are now searching any therapies that may provide more promising results, as the vet advised that even chemo would most likely only buy him a couple years in remission. Last night I purchased a k9 critical care power power pack ( www.k9criticalcare.com/ ) which is supposed to work wonders on jump starting his immune system and possibly even put his cancer into remission. We are still seriously considering chemotherapy and also are hoping to use MMS. I'm slightly overwhelmed by all the information surrounding MMS and was hoping that someone could clarify a couple of things for me...

1. protocol 2000 is advised for cancer patients, is this safe (specifically MMs2) for our canine counterparts? Brady is 90lbs and exhibiting no signs of illness. can you recommend a safe dosage to start at?

2. if we decide to use k9 critical care, MMS and chemotherapy do I need to worry about any adverse drug interactions? I fear that our veterinarian will not be knowledgeable on these alternative treatments.

3. where would you recommend purchasing MMS? The only site I have found selling it is projectgreenlife.com would you consider them a reliable supplier?

THANK YOU a million times over for your help.

Welcome to the forum Cactusmamasita!

Sorry to hear about the bad news. It is very good that Brady is not in really bad shape at this point. Jim's books says the protocols work very well on animals too, you just need to adjust dosage for their weight. At 90 lbs. Brady is not that far off from normal human weight. The hardest part is getting the animals to take the doses. People have used syringes without needles and turkey basters for giving doses.

The MMS1 needs to be given hourly and the MMS2 every other hour. Here is a page where I posted excerpts from Jim's book giving the dose and treatment protocols for animals with cancer genesis2forum.org/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=11&id=3011&Itemid=66 . Jim says that for cancer the animal really needs hourly dosing but you do not want to make the animal sicker. Reduce the dose if that happens.

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Recommended doses based on Jim's book:
MMS1: work up to 2 activated drops every hour for 8 hrs a day.
MMS2: work up to little less than half capsule every 2 hrs. for 4-5 doses per day.

Since Brady is not sick right now you should be able to start the MMS1 doses at 1 drop per hour, do it for a day and if no problems then start on 2 drops/hr. the next day and stay there unless he gets sick and then back off to 1 drop every hour or two hours till he is back to normal, then go back up to 2 drops/hr.

I would start the MMS2 at 1/8 of a capsule on the fourth day and try to work up to little less than half capsules every 2 hrs.

2. MMS does not seem to cause bad interactions with pharmaceutical drugs. We are not getting any reports of that and in fact it appears the MMS reduces the negative side effects, like it does with ARV drugs given to HIV patients.

The K9criticalcare could be more of a problem if it has ANY vitamin C or possibly other antioxidants added to it. I looked at their website and they are not telling you everything that is in those supplements. Often vitamin C (ascorbic acid) is added as a preservative. Vitamin C is known to neutralize MMS1 doses. MMS1 uses oxidation to kill off pathogens.

The MMS1 stays in the blood for 1-2 hours and any vitamin C consumed in that period will probably neutralize the MMS1 in the blood. We have been recommending Vitamin C and other antioxidants can be taken 1-2 hours after the last MMS1 dose of the day if you feel they are needed. Jim does not recommend any need for Vitamin C with his protocols.

3. In my opinion, definitely do NOT attempt to buy MMS from project green life (PGL). We have multiple reports of them charging people but never delivering. Here are two good sites in the US I recommend for purchasing MMS. I believe keavyscorner has the MMS2 also.

www.h2oairwateramericas.com/ Dr. Ron, bulk sales also
keavyscorner.com/ Steve’s home


Michael

Hi Cactus,

I made a mistake in the earlier MMS1 recommendation. Jim does say in that book excerpt that in the case of cancer you will have to go higher than 1 drop per 50 lbs of body weight. He says to go as high as you can without making the animal sicker. So you would work up to 2 drops an hour and then try to go higher if you can without making Brady sicker. Since he is not having symptoms right now, you may well be able to get up to a higher dose without problems.

Michael

Thank you Micheal for clearing all of the up for me. Brady started on the K9 Critical Care today, I heard back from their company which is very small, and they claim that there is no vitamin C in any of the supplements because dogs are capable of producing their own. I wrote back to make sure that it isn't included as a preservative but at this time it seems that it will be okay to use the two protocols simultaneously.

Brady is going on a homemade diet which consists of low carbohydrates and raw meat, I also have ordered some Essaic Tea (planning on giving 30z 2x per day) and I picked up apricot kernels today for a b17 supplement. If anyone has any information on giving apricot kernels to dogs please let me, as I have not found much information online. Any and all comments regarding this regime are welcome and appreciated.

Lastly, I just wanted to ask if anyone can tell me what kind of success can be expected from using MMS on dogs with cancer. I haven't found many success stories that state specifically how long their dogs stayed in remission and I just want to make sure that this is the right route for us. We are now becoming more comfortable with the idea of refusing chemotherapy. If protocol 2000 is followed religiously for the rest of his life or at least untill he's in remission and then it's modified, can we expect a normal lifespan for him? I realize this is an impossible question but I'm still struggling with the idea of refusing all conventional approaches when Colorado State University here is Fort Collins is known to have the best oncology clinic in the United States. Am I ready to have his health completely in my hands?

Thanks in advance to anyone giving Brady and I their time and energy.

Hi Jill,

All these things sound good but it may be best to implement them slowly over some time because starting all of it quickly will be quite a shock. All these things are powerful healers by themselves and his body will need some time to adjust. Any one of these things could cause diarrhea and possibly other symptoms and when he has symptoms you will need to be able to isolate what was causing it especially for purposes of determining your MMS doses.

Starting dogs on raw diets is a major change if he hasn't been on one before. It is a good idea and that alone can cure cancer but there are things that need to be worked out getting him on one of those diets. The type of meat, where you buy it, how much bone, how often and how much, all these things can be problems till you know what works for him. I studied up on raw diets for dogs for a while and that is how I know.

Here is a great yahoo group RedAngelRaw (pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/RedAngelRaw/) run by a lady from here in Phoenix which discusses raw diets and natural health care for dogs. They had excellent advice in that group I thought, but did not know much about MMS. I think in the group files there were some good guidelines on introducing raw diets.

I think if I was you, considering that Brady is not having cancer symptoms right now, I would get him stabilized on the raw diet to where his bowel movements are normal for 4-5 days before starting him on MMS. Then go slow with the MMS1 and see if you can give him 1 drop/hr for 8 hrs/day without problems and stay there a few days more before trying to go up.

Natural vit. C in rosehips should not be a problem. Purified vit. C is what seems to cause problems. Hopefully the tea and apricot kernels will not cause symptoms or problems, you'll just have to watch and see. Both of those are powerful healers also. You should go to that RedAngelRaw group and ask them about giving the tea and kernels to dogs, that is something they would probably know about. You can ask them about MMS but I did not see anyone knowledgeable about it there.

With all that you have planned here, these are all powerful weapons and there is no need for chemo. If you do research on chemo, you'll find out you definitely do not want to do that. My mother did chemo 16 years ago and once she found out the truth about it she was fuming angry and tells everyone, don't do it! She spent 2 years in detox hell detoxing that stuff and still suffers terrible symptoms from it. But she did totally change her diet to all organic and is healthy and active today.

Raw diet and MMS together have got to be more than enough for this cancer, in my opinion. I would certainly give them a fair chance before going to chemo. I'll bet he will respond well to both the diet and MMS.

Please keep us posted and try to go slow with this so as not to make him sicker,

Michael

I found several yahoo groups that are offering an abundance of knowledge and support for people affected by canine cancer. You were instrumental in leading me to a place where I've found some solace and I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart from being such an angel during this time of heartache and stress.

Hello Everyone <3

I wanted to offer a quick updated in case anyone stumbles upon this post and is curious about Brady's progress. To start off I'm just going to give a quick rundown of what we are doing from him currently. It's been two months since his lymphoma diagnosis and he has been on MMS for nearly the whole time.

His regime:

*raw meat (Instinct brand pet food) for all his meals supplemented with ground apricot kernels, botanical support capsules that are designed to support blood and the lymphatic system, colostrum, missing link food additive, k9 critical care immune response mushroom capsules, and fish oil with high DHA levels. He eats roughly 3x a day but sometimes refuses meals and eats only once of twice a day.

*He gets roughly 25 drops of CDS every hour for 8-10 hours a day. This was heaven sent as he was absolutely refusing to take the original MMS. It's very easy to dose him with CDS, we simply mix the drops with about the same amount of water and then use a needle-less syringe and just squirt it down his throat. It took a little bit of practice but now it's a breeze! We need to start upping his dose because he seems to be having few, if any side effects.

*For the first month we tried endlessly to get him to take MMS2 but ultimately we decided it wasn't going to work for him. He got very nausea and sick a few different times and began refusing food and supplements all together. He became very suspicious of everything we were giving him and his trust went down the drain. Since we've stopped MMS2 he seems to do much better with eating and taking all other supplements including CDS. He also seems to feel better. If anyone has any advice or experience on successfully giving MMS2 to animals I would love to hear about it!

*I bought some stuff from cancersalves.com called Indigo drops and Seneca Elixer. These are both supposed to help with lymphatic drainage. I haven't added them to his protocol yet because we've been traveling over the holidays but I plan to start him up soon once everything gets back to normal.

*I also ordered some blood root which came from Ecuador. For anyone unaware, blood root can do amazing things when it comes to removing cancerous growths. I'm still on the fence as to whether or not I'm going to give Brady blood root. I'm still learning about it and some people feel that it's not as successful with lymphoma. Again if anyone has any experience with this and would like to chime in it would be much appreciated

Basically that's everything. We pile on the love and make sure he gets lots of sunshine and exercise and at this point he is doing really well His lymph nodes are still swollen (we can feel about 4 on each side varying in size between a marble and a walnut) and seem to be changing regularly but we are trusting that we are giving his body what it needs and hoping and praying that the changes are for the better. We are still in search of the right vet to monitor all his progress. This weekend while we were home for Christmas all of my family members noted that his coat and teeth looked healthier than ever and his breath was far less smelly. I hadn't noticed until they pointed it out but now it's very obvious that the health of his mouth has made a complete turn around. For many years prior his saliva was very thick and his breath was totally obnoxious (even for dog breath). I always took it as a sign that something wasn't right but regardless of my efforts it never got any better. I think that the MMS is responsible for the turn around and I also believe that his mouth health is a reflection of what's going on throughout his body. Hearing the comments from my family gave me a firm conviction that the MMS is working and great health is slowly being achieved!

If anyone has any questions on the products or dosages we are using please don't hesitate to ask! Saving the life of a loved one is a crazy and emotional journey and I'm happy to help in anyway I can. I feel eternally grateful everyday for finding this community as well as a couple others that have helped me to make it this far with my beloved pal. We plan to continue what we are doing and probably add the Indigo drops and possibly blood root soon. I will do my best to keep you all posted on his progress!

Warmest Regards,
Jill

Hello, new to this forum as well. How is Brady doing now? My 14 year old Lab Molly has had many lumps and tumors. 27 to be exact as K-State veterinary hospital told us. Cost us $678.00 for an evaluation on her last Jan. To have all the lumps biopsied would have been over a thousand easy. She started having diarreah the last couple of days, sleeping alot more than normal. I want to start her on mms. Any other suggestions out there? She is eating less too. Very picky this last week. From my understanding the mms has to be mixed with something else? I hope I've typed this in the correct place to receive an answer.

thanks
Stella

And, one of the problems we have found with people is that a biopsy frequently spreads a cancer, if it's there.

My cat, Ivan, has one lump that I'm now treating with MMS. I'm just a few days into treatment, but it does seem to be getting a bit smaller - hard for me to tell. For sure his allergies are better.