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13 Sep 2011 10:04 - 13 Sep 2011 10:05 #5302 by orcun_laing
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Please apologize me for starting this topic. I'm just curious whether we can help Steve in any ways. I'm not sure you're aware of the information or know about Steve Jobs or not. Steve is Apple's co-founder, former CEO, and chairman of the Board of Apple. He has a rare form of Pancreatic Cancer. He had surgery to remove a tumour after being diagnosed with this type of cancer and had a liver transplant two years ago in a further attempt to prevent the spread of the disease. Considering his present situation, do you think MMS can help him to overcome this type of Cancer? I hope he can fully heal to continue his great work and also hope by any means he's brought to MMS if it truly can heal him.
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13 Sep 2011 13:01 - 13 Sep 2011 13:03 #5304 by brtanner
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Yes, MMS1/ protocol 2000 could probably help with healing Jobs' pancreatic cancer. There are testimonials of remissions of this virulent variety of cancer with MMS.

I know someone who works at Apple, and who often saw Jobs at their campus in Cupertino. I told my friend about MMS and suggested that he try to tell Steve Jobs. I don't think that he trusted the information enough to take the risk in the corporate setting of trying to tell the CEO about the possibility. I haven't asked my friend about it since.

It's endemic of the hierarchical nature of much of our society that crucial information can't flow upward to the people at the top of the pyramids of power. Famous government scientist John Von Neuman said that people who think that they're in charge use body language to discourage an accurate flow of information from people they consider their inferiors, among other things. Our parents must do this with their children. It's internalized deeply within us in our Psychological Sense of Self, or Egos.

Also, people at the level of "success" represented by major corporate CEOs are cursed with being able to afford "the best health care money can buy." Their top-shelf doctors are not likely to be informed about or open to an alternative like MMS1 or MMS2 or to understand all of the miraculous properties of substances like DMSO for wellness. I don't think you can readily get an email to Steve Jobs, or that he would recognize its importance if it crossed his inbox.

This is one area where a shift of our model of social organization is so vital to our collective well-being. May it come soon.
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13 Sep 2011 17:55 - 13 Sep 2011 17:57 #5309 by ZnzMagic
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Well there must be so many influential personalities out there with different incurable conditions apart from in the corporate world, you got the music industry and Hollywood, politicians and sports personalities, imagine what publicity Genesis 2 Church would get if they got a chance to heal such characters.

But as Bruce has pointed out who is going to listen, just in the normal society there are so many critics/skeptics who do not even give MMS a chance, its as if it does not work before they even give it a chance, after all it is logical to them that if it worked everyone would know about it and our governments would be promoting it including the medical world if such cures existed.

The ones who believe in it and know it works like us are quarks, at best it is in our minds and as long as we believe in it perhaps it works for us, but for them it is a no goer. There is science and medical doctors out there which has failed and they have lost so many of their families, so it is better we not tell them no nonsense.

This seems to be the case more so in western society, anything alternative is spam before anyone looks into it.

But if any of us can get into these influential people the faster will the truth be known.

Why not start of with someone like Magic Johnson, do you think he would listen, probably the greatest athlete of all time as regarded by many, one of the first heroes to come out and admit he had tested HIV positive, guess he must be testing negative these days, Johnson created the Magic Johnson Foundation to help combat HIV, perhaps it would not be a bad idea to contact such personalities directly if accessible or through emails, FB, Twitter etc., and see what responses if any.

Its worth a try as a strategy to get the truth out!!!

As you can see at the end he is wealthy enough to get the best of whatever he needs and has partnered up with GlaxoSmithKline's :0)

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Earvin "Magic" Johnson Jr.
(born August 14, 1959) is a retired American professional basketball player who played point guard for the Los Angeles Lakers of the National Basketball Association (NBA). After winning championships in high school and college, Johnson was selected first overall in the 1979 NBA Draft by the Lakers. He won a championship and an NBA Finals Most Valuable Player Award in his rookie season, and won four more championships with the Lakers during the 1980s. Johnson retired abruptly in 1991 after announcing that he had contracted HIV, but returned to play in the 1992 All-Star Game, winning the All-Star MVP Award. After protests from his fellow players, he retired again for four years, but returned in 1996, at age 37, to play 32 games for the Lakers before retiring for the third and final time.

Johnson's career achievements include three NBA MVP Awards, nine NBA Finals appearances, twelve All-Star games, and ten All-NBA First and Second Team nominations. He led the league in regular-season assists four times, and is the NBA's all-time leader in assists per game, with an average of 11.2.[3] Johnson was a member of the "Dream Team", the U.S. basketball team that won the Olympic gold medal in 1992.

Johnson was honored as one of the 50 Greatest Players in NBA History in 1996, and enshrined in the Basketball Hall of Fame in 2002.[4] He was rated the greatest NBA point guard of all time by ESPN in 2007.[5] His friendship and rivalry with Boston Celtics star Larry Bird, whom he faced in the 1979 NCAA finals and three NBA championship series, were well documented. Since his retirement, Johnson has been an advocate for HIV/AIDS prevention and safe sex,[4] as well as an entrepreneur,[6] philanthropist[7] and motivational speaker.[8]

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In 2003, Johnson met with Nancy Pelosi to discuss federal assistance for those with AIDS.

After announcing his infection in November 1991, Johnson created the Magic Johnson Foundation to help combat HIV,[96] although he later diversified the foundation to include other charitable goals.[97] In 1992, he joined the National Commission on AIDS, but left after eight months, saying that the commission was not doing enough to combat the disease.[96] He was also the main speaker for the United Nations (UN) World AIDS Day Conference in 1999,[97] and has served as a United Nations Messenger of Peace.[98]

HIV had been associated with drug addicts and homosexuals,[96] but Johnson's campaigns sought to show that the risk of infection was not limited to those groups. Johnson stated that his aim was to "help educate all people about what [HIV] is about" and teach others not to "discriminate against people who have HIV and AIDS".[97] Johnson was later criticized by the AIDS community for his decreased involvement in publicizing the spread of the disease.[96][97]

To prevent his HIV infection from progressing to AIDS, Johnson takes a daily combination of drugs.[99] He has advertised GlaxoSmithKline's drugs,[100] and partnered with Abbott Laboratories to publicize the fight against AIDS in African American communities.[99]
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06 Oct 2011 00:00 - 06 Oct 2011 00:07 #6008 by Victor
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It has been reported that Steve Jobs has died today. Very Sad

(Reuters) - "Patients with the rare form of cancer suffered by Apple Inc's Steve Jobs face a tougher battle if the disease recurs, because of the methods used in fighting it."

With all his large finances and wisdom why did he not look at natural approaches to cure his pancreatic cancer?

Bruce, you are absolutely right, when you are at that level of success the doctors of the A.M.A will jump at the chance to treat you, yet they can only offer conventional medicine that has a success rate of 1 to 5% after five years which is less than a placebo. Makes absolutely no sense.
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06 Oct 2011 01:36 #6010 by Bill
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Steve has passed away.:(

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06 Oct 2011 04:19 #6016 by VRT
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orcun_laing, I am affraid, but is too late. Steve Jobs died today. I feel very bad for the guy like him, that noone was able to help him cure his illness. God bless him for all his done.

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06 Oct 2011 07:00 #6025 by Nir
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Im sorry to be the "bad" guy here but - that person is responsible for many suicides, apple workers in china that were slaves of that man suffer so much from working 7 days a week for endless hours just so that man can make is millions.

no apple product will ever get into my house, i will never spend a dollar on any apple products, and i will not shed a tear for that man leaving this world!

Its about time that people will wake up for the destruction and suffering that those kind of people bring to this world and stop support them, their life style and their products.

those corporate people and their way of thinking of humanity is the reason why MMS and other alternative medicine, alternative energy, and anything that cant bring them money are being suppressed and band.

Its time to wake up!! and realize what they are doing to us instead of filling sorry for them and support them by our money (buying their products) and our feelings of admirations!

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06 Oct 2011 07:23 #6030 by Steven
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Steve Jobs was a Brilliant inventor and researcher, May he rest in peace and
reincarnate as a brilliant Scientist. The soul that inhabited Mr Jobs' body is immortal and will
exist forever. Unfortunately people like him are targets and can get sabotaged and lead astray by Handlers who tell truth sandwiches in their left ear. Wonder what changes are afoot @ Apples with Steves' unfortunate demise, Iphones already can trace and track people even if the phone is switched off - extra security? or George orwell scenarios every where......

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RIP Steve.

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06 Oct 2011 21:05 - 06 Oct 2011 21:44 #6060 by Victor
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Interesting article i read today about Steve Jobs. I like to add a bit of irony, Apple seeds have been known to contain anti cancer properties. Vitamin B-17 (nitriloside, amygdaline).


Steve Jobs dead at 56, his life ended prematurely by chemotherapy and radiotherapy for cancer

Learn more: www.naturalnews.com/033793_Steve_Jobs_chemotherapy.html#ixzz1a2PpAITL


(NaturalNews) It is extremely saddening to see the cost in human lives that modern society pays for its false belief in conventional medicine and the cancer industry in particular. Visionary Steve Jobs died today, just months after being treated for cancer with chemotherapy at the Stanford Cancer Center in Palo Alto, California. In recent months, he appeared in public photos as a frail shadow of his former self. The thin legs, sunken cheek bones and loss of body weight are all classic signs of total body toxicity observed in chemotherapy and radiotherapy patients.

Steve Jobs reportedly underwent both. His chemotherapy treatments at the Standard Cancer Center are now well known ( www.marksmarketanalysis.com/ ...), and his secret radiotherapy treatments in Switzerland have now been made public by former Apple executive Jerry York.

Jerry York confided in Fortune Magazine about Steve Jobs' secret flight to Switzerland to receive radiotherapy treatment for his cancer ( tech.fortune.cnn.com/2011/01 ...). Fortune Magazine kept this secret until Jerry York died in March of 2010 ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_ ...)), after which Fortune Magazine decided its confidentiality agreement with York no longer applied, and it published details about Jobs' secret visits to Switzerland ( gawker.com/5737092/steve-job ...).

Fortune Magazine also repeats another fact about Steve Jobs that rarely appears in the press: Namely, that Steve Jobs underwent a secret liver transplant which raised eyebrows among many who wondered why a member of the wealthy business elite could receive a liver transplant essentially on demand while everybody else had to wait on a long transplant list ( articles.cnn.com/2009-06-24/ ...).

In January of this year, Roc4Life.com reported:

"Jobs' medical leave is due to cancer, but no one knows whether it stems from his 2004 battle with pancreatic cancer or complications from a secret liver transplant in 2009. According to recently deceased off-the-record source from Apple's Jerry York, Jobs took an unpublicized flight to Switzerland in 2009 to undergo unusual treatment at the University of Basel. Switzerland's University of Basel known for their radiotherapy treatments for neuroendocrine cancer and it's unavailability in the U.S. Experts say Jobs' pancreatic cancer has a history of reappearing and spreading to vital organs at a slow-growing pace, which probably explains the medical leave."

In other words, there is no question that Steve Jobs underwent multiple conventional cancer treatments, including surgery, chemotherapy and radiotherapy.

In the end, however, even Steve Jobs could not overturn the laws of biochemistry. When you poison the human body, the result is the deterioration and eventual shut down of the body. Chemotherapy does not work! This fact should now be obvious, and yet every year, more and more people choose chemotherapy to their own demise -- people like Farrah Fawcett, Peter Jennings, Patrick Swayze, Michael Douglas and many others ( www.naturalnews.com/027047_c ...).

Don't they see that conventional cancer treatments do not work?

Losing Steve Jobs is a loss of a great visionary
It is striking that people who are geniuses in their own fields can understand so little about the fundamentals of human health. Steve Jobs was arguably one of the most influential visionaries of our time, and his development of human-technology interfaces revolutionized modern computing. Had he achieved another twenty years of life -- and lived to 75 -- he would have no doubt contributed to our world in even more profound and positive ways.

Yet his remaining life was stolen from him by the cancer industry and its poisons. This is yet another frustrating example of how the modern medical system harms our society. It steals from us the longevity of visionary individuals who have so much more to offer our world in terms of creativity and innovation.

Of course, you can't blame the cancer industry for causing Jobs' cancer in the first place. Some other cause had to have been present to get the cancer growing -- probably a combination of nutritional deficiencies and exposure to environmental toxins. And yet the cancer establishment says nothing to people about correcting obvious nutritional deficiencies that lead to cancer, even when most cancers can be prevented for mere pennies a day.

The simple combination of vitamin D and selenium, if taken in combination, could probably prevent more than 80% of all cancers in America ( www.naturalnews.com/021892.html ). Yet the American Cancer Society and all the mainstream cancer non-profits don't dare advocate vitamin D or selenium. If solutions were readily available to everyone, how would the cancer industry maintain its profitability?

The dark side of Apple
This gets us to the dark side of Apple, because just as the cancer industry is a greed-driven monstrosity that incessantly seeks profits at the expense of others, Apple has increasingly become a corporation that has routinely chosen for-profit domination over public service. This is not so much about Steve Jobs himself as it is about those who surrounded him and ultimately exploited his talents for their own selfish agendas.

Apple iPhones, for example, were recently exposed as secret tracking devices that record your location and upload that data back to Apple headquarters ( www.naturalnews.com/032239_i ...).

By any honest account, Apple operates today with a mindset of total monopolistic domination, requiring apps to be sold through its iTunes, where Apple takes an unfair cut of every sale. In fact, Apple has come to very much resemble the Orwellian Big Brother image that once made it famous in its January 22, 1984 Superbowl ad, which positioned Apple's Macintosh computer as freeing people from tyranny. Watch that ad at:
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What's so striking about this commercial is that, in many ways, Apple has become the very thing it once claimed to oppose -- domineering control, automaton conformity, and centralized command over the expression of musicians and programmers alike. The text of the ad says, "On January 24th, Apple Computer will introduce Macintosh. And you'll see why 1984 won't be like "1984."

Thanks to companies like Apple, 2011 sure is a lot like 1984. A clever response to all this appears in a parody video that pits Steve Jobs in that "1984" video as a way to show that Apple acts more like Big Brother with each passing day:
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Anyone who has ever owned an iPhone knows all about being locked into a technology from which there is no free choice to do what you want with it. Why aren't iPhones sold as "unlocked" from the get-go? Why do you have to hack your own phone just to free it from Apple's domineering control? And why does your phone track your every move even without your permission or knowledge?

In fairness, this is almost certainly due to the greedy business types who surrounded Steve Jobs, and not Jobs himself. Jobs always seemed to be more of a humanitarian, but his concepts for innovation inevitably got swept up into the circus of profit.

Live by principle, because that's the only thing you take with you
The more you look into the story of Steve Jobs and Apple, the deeper it all gets. And that brings us back to Steve Jobs and the topic of principles and ethics. All the wealth in the world couldn't save Steve Jobs from cancer, of course.

Here's a question for you: In his final days of life, would Steve Jobs have traded every bit of wealth he owned for a healthy new liver and pancreas? You bet he would! And yet he couldn't. Because it doesn't work that way. When it comes to organ health, there are no second chances. You're given one set of organs to live with, and if you can't figure out how to take care of those with nutrition, healthy foods and avoidance of environmental toxins, all the money in the world can't save you.

Importantly, you don't take money with you when you die, so collecting dollars or cars or even gold is little more than a short-term distraction set in the physical world. What you do take is a karmic record of your actions; a "universal log file" of your principles and ethics, if you will. And that's what matters in whatever experience or reality awaits us beyond this one, whether you believe in Heaven, or reincarnation, or ascension to higher plane of existence.

Was Steve Jobs a positive influence on our world? Yes, I think so
I don't pretend to be qualified to judge Steve Jobs on all his actions here on our planet, but the only honest question in helping to answer that is this: "Is our world better off because of Steve Jobs' influence? Or is it worse off?"

On the whole, I believe Steve Jobs himself was a creative visionary whose talents eventually became co-opted by less-than-ethical corporate interests which operated outside his core intentions. This is precisely the reason why brilliant people should always be wary of "investors" or men wearing suits, because the whole purpose of venture capital is to grant people who don't know how to really create wealth a way to sink their claws into those who do.

This is why I have consistently and successfully resisted all venture capital and buyout attempts targeting NaturalNews. To bring in big money people would destroy the heart and soul of what NaturalNews is all about, in the same way that all the big money people who eventually surrounded Steve Jobs ultimately compromised what was originally an uplifting vision for human freedom and expression.

(Even in the health industry, I can't even tell you all the stories of brilliant, visionary people who have been betrayed by investors and corporate interests. It happens almost 100% of the time.)

The real lesson in Steve Jobs' passing, then, is not "oh wow look at all these cool gadgets he left us" -- because that's the juvenile view -- but rather "what can we learn from Steve Jobs about staying authentic in our own lives and our own decisions?"

What I've learned from Steve Jobs is that staying true to your vision is far more important than being commercially successful or collecting material wealth. Walking a path that gets your face on the cover of business magazines requires too much compromise of ethics and principles. The business community, after all, doesn't usually celebrate real geniuses who share things with the world and make nothing from it. It only celebrates those who find clever ways to extract billions of dollars from the hands of consumers.

In fact, you might even say that the business world actually punishes those who bring real innovation to the world -- people such as free energy inventors, most of which you have never heard about because they ended up mysteriously dead before they could bring their inventions to market. Steve Jobs was celebrated because his innovations were consistent with the culture of mass consumerism and unbridled corporate greed -- buy more computing stuff, and buy it often! That makes investors rich, and that's the name of the game in the business world.

Steve Jobs was celebrated, in other words, not for who he was on the inside, but for all the other people who got rich off him along the way. And that's a shame, because even after his passing, I feel like we never knew the real Steve Jobs at all -- the Steve Jobs who probably wanted to make the world a better place yet repeatedly found his talents being distorted and leveraged for bottom-line profits in a culture of greed that only cares about finding new ways to convince consumers to part with their money.

Steve Jobs may be dead, but the domineering greed of those who extorted his talent lives on. The iPhone 5 will probably be out in a year or so, so we can all throw away our old electronics which end up in a toxic landfill somewhere, and then replace it with new electronics made in a slave labor factory in China. Isn't technology great?

Either way, may Steve Jobs rest in peace. May his name never be used for commercial exploitation again.

Learn more: www.naturalnews.com/033793_Steve_Jobs_chemotherapy.html#ixzz1a2PIrUoI


I like to also add :
according to Taylor Hatmaker of Today in Tech
"Jobs was also a pescetarian who didn't consume most animal products, and didn't eat meat other than fish. A strong believer in Eastern medicine, he sought to treat his own cancer through alternative approaches and specialized diets before reluctantly seeking his first surgery for a cancerous tumor in 2004.

If true, I wonder what alternatives he tried and failed with?
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