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Re: MMS, DMSO and plastic containers 14 Sep 2011 15:27 #5349

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David, I tried putting the DMSO in to a PET bottle and after just 3 hours the DMSO had turned the same color as the PET plastic.

Here is a report I found online:

cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=17014.255
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« Reply #259 on: May 13, 2011, 07:06:51 PM »
Last summer I bought a small bottle of pure DMSO in the pharmacy. It came in a PET plastic bottle and apparantly came directly from the manufacturer because it was sealed. I didn't touch it a few months and today I've had a look at it again and noticed that the bottle got bubbles/blisters all over. That means a few things:

1) DMSO is stong enough to dissolve PET (even if very slowly) and likely other plastic bottles as well
2) The manufacturer apparently has no idea about that
3) DMSO which is stored in plastic bottles contains dissolved plastic, which probably makes it toxic and therefore unusable.

I'm going to dispose it. I've ordered new 99.99% DMSO directly from a chemistry vendor because the pharmacy is not allowed to hand it out without prescription. It is sold as high purity product for gas chromatography. I'm assuming that it corresponds to pharmaceutical grade (suitable for intake).

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Re: MMS, DMSO and plastic containers 14 Sep 2011 15:40 #5351

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Thanks Michael and what about the HDPE bottles they come in from even trusted suppliers, better to remove the DMSO from them after shipping as Peter points out and have DMSO only in glass bottles and droppers, for spraying protocols HDPE bottles, what about the spray heads and pipe in the bottles they also got to be HDPE.....

I better go and spill out the little DMSO in my PET bottle and save the poor PET bottle from getting over healed....

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David

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Re: MMS, DMSO and plastic containers 14 Sep 2011 15:50 #5353

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Hi David,

I really think the HDPE bottles are okay for storing DMSO. The main supplier of DMSO in the US is Gaylord Chemical (www.gaylordchemical.com) and they sell it in 500 lb. (55 gal.) HDPE drums or glass bottles. They sell USP grade (www.gaylordchemical.com/products/dmsousp.htm) but that is only wholesale I'm sure. Anyone selling retail cannot claim it is USP grade in the US because of the FDA, even if it is USP grade.

I suspect that most of the DMSO being sold in the US comes out of these 500 lb HDPE drums.

I can get the Gaylord 500 lb drums from my chemical supplier, I just need to save up enough funds to do it. I have other people who are very interested in this DMSO and I could repackage it in shippable 5 gal. HDPE buckets. DMSO is not hazardous for shipping.

Michael

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Re: MMS, DMSO and plastic containers 14 Sep 2011 17:02 #5354

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I have been ordering DMSO from Jacob Lab directly with success. They are located in Portland OR.
They sell the practical 8 oz size.

jacoblab.com/OrderDMSO70.html


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Re: MMS, DMSO and plastic containers 15 Sep 2011 00:18 #5364

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My supplier of DMSO would not fill it in anything else than glass, he told me even cheap China made glass bottle have a lot lead in it and cannot be used for DMSO.
For me the only way to stay on the save side is to use glass bottles produced for pharmacists.
Just got a load of this bottles of 100ml from an Malaysian supplier for U$ 0.17 / pc.
No point to go for polluted plastic at all.

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Re: MMS, DMSO and plastic containers 16 Sep 2011 04:02 #5398

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Yap, my little 2oz green bottle did get stressed out with the DMSO in it, the bottle is PET and in less than 24 hours it was not deformed, but the white clear coloured DMSO had turned into green the same colour as the bottle, so unless one gets DMSO from a very reliable supplier in HDPE bottles, better to move things in medical-pharmacy quality glass products for storage and application purposes.

Will have to find proper HDPE spray bottles with proper sprayers for use with DMSO and a few other normal HDPE bottles so that I may give others DMSO to take with them in smaller amounts, or just go to smaller glass bottles of good quality for this purpose.

Have started using DMSO on hardcore patients and tried some myself yesterday....... 6 drops in a maintenance dose, feel kind of stronger inside my chest, will repeat again today.

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Re: MMS, DMSO and plastic containers 16 Sep 2011 07:46 #5401

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Thanks for this test :-)

So please everyone out there, glass bottles is the only way to keep DMSO safely !!!

I was told and have seen it in a video on a German web-site that even MMS 1 react in in PET bottles after about 6 month and it becomes funny, milky and smoking.
I myself set on glass bottles and glass droppers for everything.
For Spray heads I use HDPE.

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Re: MMS, DMSO and plastic containers 25 Sep 2011 17:53 #5705

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Michael,

Do you suggest that I put the DMSO into brown glass bottles rather than keeping it in the HDPE ones that the product is coming in? How does one determine exactly what is 'a drop' from a dropper? Are large glass bottles available in most pharmacies? I want to mix a daily batch and will need a 24 ounce bottle for that, so I can take some of my doses at work already mixed.

Is anyone selling safe 24 oz containers with dropper caps?

Thanks.

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Re: MMS, DMSO and plastic containers 26 Sep 2011 01:56 #5716

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Hi Terry,

At this point I honestly don't have an opinion on whether glass or HDPE is better for DMSO. Gaylord the maker of USP grade DMSO sells it in glass and 50 gal. HDPE drums. I have DMSO for my own use in HDPE and in glass.

The size of "a drop" varies depending on the dropper. The good news is it is not critically important that everything be exact. For my oral doses I have three brown glass dropper bottles with glass droppers and it sure looks like the size of the glass droppers is not all the same.

You can mix up the MMS and activator ahead of time as explained in the video here jimhumble.biz/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=34&Itemid=61 but you may want to add the DMSO right before you take the dose. Then again, Bruce may have a different opinion on that because he has more experience with it. Jim has not said anything yet about adding DMSO at the beginning of the day to daily premixed doses. I have not been doing the premixed doses myself. You could experiment and decide for yourself.

If you go to usplastic.com or specialtybottle.com you can buy almost any kind of container and cap you want.

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