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MMS1 or Activated MMS: chlorine dioxide (ClO2)

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MMS, DMSO and plastic containers 11 Jun 2021 14:08 #69405

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What are you going to put into those plastic bottles? 

Glass is always best. Plastic lids / caps on glass bottles are


 

Only MMS1 (mms + activator). Also, pre-made CDS solution, will that be okay?

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MMS, DMSO and plastic containers 11 Jun 2021 19:01 #69414

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Probably will be okay. HDPE bottles are okay to use. PET plastic is also okay. Recycled glass bottles are the best. 

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MMS, DMSO and plastic containers 16 Aug 2021 15:51 #70486

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Andreas Kalcker does not recommend using PET bottles for the sodium chlorite.
andreaskalcker.com/cds-clo2/precauciones-del-cds.html "Sodium Chlorite (NaClO2) should be stored in PP / HDPE / PE eye dropper bottles. All these materials are resistant and withstand alkalinity and acidity (pH 13 / pH 1), and maintain the properties for many years. Transparent PET-type plastics are not recommended for storing concentrated sodium chlorite for a long time, as they eventually disintegrate and leave residues in the sodium chlorite solution."PET (Polyethylene terephthalate) contains carbon atoms (the C in the drawing), which due to its proximity to oxygen has a low electron density. It turns out to be sensitive to react with sodium chlorite (NaClO2) because of the high pH, ​​and then the polymer chains disintegrate over time. If it is suitable for CDS by having a neutral pH."

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MMS, DMSO and plastic containers 17 Aug 2021 00:29 #70492

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Yes, I have read that, too, in AK's book. PET has been used for many years to hold MMS (22.4% sodium chlorite solution). 

I have used both PET and HDPE to store MMS. The only bottles that failed, more than once, were HDPE bottles. The split open and spilled out MMS. I now use only glass bottles for MMS. 

If you are interested, look online for compatibility info on MMS and various plastics. 

Please tell us what you find. Thanks. 

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MMS, DMSO and plastic containers 17 Aug 2021 11:02 #70500

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Even though PET bottles do not get damaged visually when storing sodium chlorite in them doesn't mean some chemical reaction isn't taking place that contaminates sodium chloride to some degree. I can not find where I saw this but Jim Humble says to use glass preferably but also says HDPE is OK. However, I have heard others like you say HDPE bottles can split so glass is best. It may be that some thicker better quality HDPE bottles aren't so much of a problem. One of the few places Genesis church recommends to buy MMS from is Pure Living Store at pureliving.store/ and they have used HDPE bottles for a long time. If they had customers complaining about the bottles splitting I would image they would have changed bottles some time ago.
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Re: MMS, DMSO and plastic containers 14 Mar 2022 06:20 #74324

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Hi Michael,
Just out of curiosity - what's the current rate $$ on a 500 lb drum do you know? That would be the best way to go obviously.

Thanks
Shane

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MMS, DMSO and plastic containers 13 Mar 2023 12:21 #77985

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Hi just wondering if a #4 plastic lid is ok for the CDS reaction?  I think #4 is PE plastic the bottle is glass.

Thanks!

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