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Re: Activation question 23 Jul 2011 20:06 #4048

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Hi Bryan (ab288),

I don’t think there is an error in the postings, but it is confusing because different dilutions of hydrochloric acid are sold as “muriatic acid”. You have to look at the percentage of “hydrogen chloride” listed on the label of your muriatic acid. I bought muriatic acid from home depot that had 14.5% hydrogen chloride on the label. Dan bought some that said 31.45% hydrogen chloride on the label. Each of these must be diluted by a different formula to arrive at the same final dilution of hydrogen chloride (ie, hydrochloric acid).

You want to achieve a final hydrogen chloride dilution of 3-4% to get an activator that can be substituted for 50% citric acid.

So here are the two formulas depending on what your “muriatic acid” label says:

14.5% hydrogen chloride; dilute 1:4 with water, that is 1 part acid to 4 parts water; yields 2.9% hydrogen chloride.

31.45% hydrogen chloride; dilute 1:8 with water, that is 1 part acid to 8 parts water; yields 3.5% hydrogen chloride.


There is further discussion of these different formulas here (genesis2forum.org/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=2&id=3593&limit=6&limitstart=6&Itemid=66 ).

Dan reported back he is using the 1:8 dilution for his 31.45% muriatic acid and it is working well for him.

Michael

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Re: Activation question 01 Aug 2011 21:00 #4243

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Hi Michael,

Well, we have been using the HCL 31.45% , diluted 1tsp. to 9tsp. water. Jared still has sinus congestion and he wakes in the middle of the night choking on his mucos. He gets it up but I don't know why we can't get rid of it. Do you have any other suggestions. I would so appreciate any help. We have been dealing with this sinus congestion for over a month this time around with no relief.

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Brenda

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Re: Activation question 02 Aug 2011 01:01 #4254

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For problems with mucous, suggest using MMS2, even in small (1/4 of a #0 capsule or less) doses. I've found it "drys up" mucous rapidly for me.

Bruce

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Re: Activation question 02 Aug 2011 04:36 #4258

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Hi Brenda,

I think Bruce has the best advice as far as using MMS. I had the mucous problem real bad before I got sick with the gut trouble that has been with me for 16 years now. I was choking on mucous too and the drugs I had relied on all my life quit working too.

I am starting to think now I was feeding candida in my guts. It would have been great to have the MMSs available to me that time. But it was probably also partly dietary because I was making yogurt smoothies everyday. Stopping that probably would have helped me too. But it sounds like you are already doing as much as you can in avoiding dietary sensitivities.

I am also starting to think the sensitivities are very pathogen related. Killing them off is just not so easy and can take a while in hard cases like this.

I would try the MMS2 and maybe some type of dietary change to see if you can get the mucous to stop. I went on Dom's brown rice diet (genesis2forum.org/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=2&id=3016&Itemid=66#3048) and that was a radical change that I think starves the candida. I'm sticking with it to a large extent and actually eating aloe vera and nopal (cactus leaf) and coconut oil every meal. No fruits and no western vegetables. This is helping me and actually I have no mucous at all for a few weeks now, but this is also my best time of year for that so I'll have to see what happens in the Fall.

Michael

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Re: Activation question 02 Aug 2011 16:10 #4268

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Thank you both, Bruce and Michael!

Jared did have fever yesterday. And he started coughing on mucos early morning, coming out the nose and mouth. So I will try the MMS2. If you would please tell me where to find the info on how to take MMS2 in the new book, I would appreciate it. I have downloaded the book on my kindle. I did find some pool "shock" that had calcium hypochlorite at 52% and other ingredients 48%. Can this be used until I can get the other stuff? If so how much for a small statured teen. Do you have to swallow it in a capsule or can you mix in water and drink like that. Sorry for all the question but this kid has me rattled right now.

Thanks for everything. Oh a side note: my husband has a bad infection on his thumb that he believes he got when he was feeding hay and some hay poked him. We got out, no joke, half a teaspoon of puss and there was even a dark blue ring , under the skin, around the whole infection. We had tried Colloidal silver to no avail. But we then used MMS, 20 drop solution in 2oz. of water and wonders of wonders, it worked beautifully. We just dab on the solution with a cotton ball a few times before bed and it is healing nicely.
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Re: Activation question 02 Aug 2011 16:53 #4269

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Hi Brenda,

Look on p. 111 in the book the MMS2 section starts. Jim says on his MMS2 intro page (jimhumble.biz/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=38&Itemid=66) "I have used it all from 45% to 55% to 65% to 75% to 80%" so I think you could go with the 52% that you have now and start real slow.

A regular adult dose is a size 0 capsule which Jim says is 1/2 teaspoon in volume (see protocol 4000 jimhumble.biz/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=48&Itemid=71). For a 100 lbs. person he advises 1/4 teaspoon which is a size 1 capsule. If I was in your shoes I would start with 1/16th teaspoon, and try to work your way up. With that small amount you could put it in a pint of water and the taste is not that bad in my opinion, or in 1 cup of juice would probably not be noticeable.

For another technique if you don't have capsules, Jim says you can refrigerate some honey and take a ball of it the size of the powder and mix the powder in and swallow it real fast, that works too, but drink at least 1 cup of water right afterward. The cup of water is needed for activation and to dilute the MMS2 which turns into hypochloric acid.

Thanks for the testimonial about your husband's infection, that's great! Soaking in MMS2 water should be super good for that also. My friend's husband got a deep cut on knuckles and soaked in half cup of water with one capsule of MMS2, pain went away immediately and healed up very fast (see genesis2forum.org/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=8&id=3014&Itemid=66#3015).

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Re: Activation question 06 Aug 2011 07:30 #4345

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Is coconut milk (juice) likely to work?

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Re: Activation question 09 Aug 2011 16:06 #4422

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Ok I've worked up to 1/8 tsp. twice daily for Jared of the mms2. He still has mucos all though it is not coming out his nose anymore but just in the mornings . He coughs and coughs and gets stuff up. I'm still using the 52% because the 78% has not come in yet. I will have to say that at this point Jared is sleeping better than he was. And not having the coughing spells that he was having thru the night. But he still has so much mucos in the morning and it last all morning. I was thinking of trying mms1 mixed with malic acid but I called a company today and they can't tell me what the malic acid is made from. They just said it was an organic compound. Well that doesn't tell me much. If it was made from apples , he could have, if it is made from grapes, he can't have.

I would like to know though about the mms2 amounts. Jared , like I have said before is a special needs child and of small stature. What would be the most he should take of mms2 during the day. And will I have to go down on the doses when I get the 78%?

Oh also does vitamin c interfer with mms2? If so do you have to wait as long between doses as mms1?

Thank you so much for ya'lls help. I look forward to the day of healing!!!

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Re: Activation question 09 Aug 2011 16:32 #4423

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I don't think that Vitamin C can interfere with MMS2 - they're both in the body naturally.

As far as MMS2 doses for Jared, first, don't use any dose large enough to cause headaches, nausea or vomiting. With the 52% calcium hypochlorite, I would probably try 1/4 of a #3 capsule (or 1/4 of a #0 cap, which is more available) per 25 lbs. of body weight.

Always use plenty of water - I drink water before and after taking MMS2, MINIMUM of 1 cup/8 oz/250 ml with every dose.

Best wishes for speedy rebalancing,
Bruce

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