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What am I doing wrong??? Not getting anything CLOSE to what I have seen! 02 Apr 2014 19:22 #42569

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Welcome to the world of making CDS.

Unfortunately the method you are trying is the original procedure. Making CDS that way is a pain - as you are discovering. Also the concentration of CL02 in the reactor bottle is very high - which can be explosive (above 10%).

There is another method which uses an aquarium pump, plumbed into the reactor bottle which then blows the CD over to the collector bottle(s) . I used that until the method JB13 sent you the link to came out. One advantage is that you can do a "dry" run - just water in the reactor to ensure there are no leaks - prior to charging the reactor. Leaking is the number one problem and frequent.

I now only use the overnight method - it's dead simple and reliable.
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What am I doing wrong??? Not getting anything CLOSE to what I have seen! 03 Apr 2014 21:05 #42622

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I first purchased sodium chlorite tech grade 80% and water in equal weight amounts...
...It was indicated to use equal amounts of "weighed" substances...


Your recipe for making 22.4% sodium chlorite is incorrect. Please read these instructions:
mmsinfo.org/infosheets/What_is_MMS_and_How_to_Make_it.pdf

This may also interest you:
www.mmsinfo.org/infosheets/cds_shot_glass_travel_kit.pdf


OMG thank you.... this is great.... Also I was JUST in the market for one of those oversized syringes for some alchemy processes, having seen another use it in a video, and was about to inquire as to where one would obtain such a thing.... so thank you for this as well....I must be psychic too...I had recently bought this size Ball canning jar as well as having reserved a few old votive candle glasses that I was going to toss while doing my spring cleaning, just a few days ago....I'm glad i held on to it! LOL!

I like this idea as well as Ray's aquarium pump... which had occurred to me when I saw Jim Blowing from bottle to bottle, that when I tried that method I thought I was going to pass out after just a few hard puffs.

Thank you also for the graphs, this is helpful for my science based mindset, and would ask if you could project how the following would impact the curve,

I have a vacuum sealer with an accessory attachment and also have plastic lids for the ball jars that is intended to be used with the vacuum sealer, would creating a vacuum alter the absorption curve at all. and if so, can it be projected by how much.

I wish i had a PPM tester, (although I do use a PH tester for my other interests) so the bottle reflecting the color will also help a lot to determine if I am getting the same results/reactions as indicated. I know it is not highly accurate, but it is better than just trusting that it occurred without any checks. I also do graphic art and the program uses strict color calibrations to ensure what is on the screen is what ends up in the photo print, so it could serve as a comparative similarly as test strips use color charts to indicate results of various presences.

Thanks again for providing multiple layers of assistance with a number of ongoing projects I am involved in, it is greatly appreciated and brought a huge :woohoo: to my face when I saw what the PDF contained!!!

Blessings,
Daniel

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What am I doing wrong??? Not getting anything CLOSE to what I have seen! 03 Apr 2014 21:29 #42624

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Welcome to the world of making CDS.

Unfortunately the method you are trying is the original procedure. Making CDS that way is a pain - as you are discovering. Also the concentration of CL02 in the reactor bottle is very high - which can be explosive (above 10%).

There is another method which uses an aquarium pump, plumbed into the reactor bottle which then blows the CD over to the collector bottle(s) . I used that until the method JB13 sent you the link to came out. One advantage is that you can do a "dry" run - just water in the reactor to ensure there are no leaks - prior to charging the reactor. Leaking is the number one problem and frequent.

I now only use the overnight method - it's dead simple and reliable.


Thank you Martin, I had intended on fishing out (excuse the pun) one of my old aquarium pumps "somewhere" in my shed, however I missed JB13 second link for getting so absorbed in the first one in trying to figure out why my strengths did not seem on target, but since you pointed it out as being preferable I Went back and found a veritable gold mine in that second pdf... even for my other (alchemy type) projects, and I am confident with the new numbers/formulas and method, I should arrive with what I should have.

I don't know how possible it is, but I think it would save a lot of people a lot of headaches if they were to remove as much of the old material as possible, because people who are first time finding out about this, especially on youtube, have no way to know what stage of development any particular video is from, and most of us rely on either search results or "recommended videos" after the initial one is finished playing, and they do not always include the most recently published ones, because of their tracking a targeting algorithms, to provide search results most relevant to their viewing /search histories,...point being, when I watched the first one with Jim blowing through a tube from bottle to bottle, the newest methods were not in those results for me, because it seemed to be targeting numerous others from the same period...mostly testimonial in nature, and then initially the one by Andreas Klatcher, struck me initially as "riding coattails" and not officially accepted until I learned better, and I hadn't even learned of this site (not big on reading descriptions for time constraints) until well after having bought my supplies...as well as there being .org and most Jim Humble links go to .biz which usually indicates "marketing"" type sites and I stay away from online rip off sites, and they generally are not valid "informational" sites in my experiences... and it was only when I went to get the protocol definitions did I end up here (Not referring to the forums but the main Genesis church site) which was mostly thanks to Kerri Rivera's excellent presentation video! I must have shared that one with dozens of people!

Keep the miracles happening!!
Thank you!
Daniel

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What am I doing wrong??? Not getting anything CLOSE to what I have seen! 04 Apr 2014 06:36 #42642

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Daniel said:

I have a vacuum sealer with an accessory attachment and also have plastic lids for the ball jars that is intended to be used with the vacuum sealer, would creating a vacuum alter the absorption curve at all. and if so, can it be projected by how much.


Daniel, I don't think a vacuum sealer would work for sealing the receiver jar as there is pressure inside from the expanding CLO2 gas. I would think the sealer vacuum pump would pull CLO2 gas out of the receiver and we don't want to do that.

You can buy inexpensive CLO2 test strips to measure your CDS.
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What am I doing wrong??? Not getting anything CLOSE to what I have seen! 04 Apr 2014 12:14 #42649

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There a lot of method to make CDS. I prefer Kerry Rivera Method of putting like 220 milliter of water in a big Jar and then put a wine cup inside with the SC and CA and let stand overnight in a dark place. Is the method for the Austism Kid. I believe is the most easy. Good Luck.
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What am I doing wrong??? Not getting anything CLOSE to what I have seen! 06 Apr 2014 03:03 #42765

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JB13 said

Daniel, I don't think a vacuum sealer would work for sealing the receiver jar as there is pressure inside from the expanding CLO2 gas. I would think the sealer vacuum pump would pull CLO2 gas out of the receiver and we don't want to do that.

You can buy inexpensive CLO2 test strips to measure your CDS.


Thanks...It was just something that came to mind that i thought to put out there... but drew the same conclusion without even attempting to try it...I do wish to thank you for the most helpful information of all.... I took the info and reversed the equation to find my SCS is more than potent enough (I mentioned having added to it when i did not get the old type reaction) because what should have weighed 10.3 i think (my short term mem stinks lol) weighed 11.4 however be that as it may I used the glass in the jar version and it worked perfectly and I would suggest they push this method to the top of the list of the most foolproof method, as well as being the easiest and requiring the last amount of futzing and equipment most are unlikely to have... being 57 and single if not for my attempts at this I may have gone my entire life and NEVER bought a baby bottle! LOL! Well I guess I will find SOME use for them! I would donate them to someone but worry about the plastic degrading from exposure to the harsh substances.

I really do appreciate the detailed charts graphs and photos, they helped remove any question with what I had read as well. I have decided to buy an inexpensive digital PPM tester anyway....since I am finding it will come in handy for my other projects of delving into alchemy of sorts, (more like metallurgy coupled with resuming a lost hobby of jewelry making and electroplating) and it will warrant the expense for the longer term use I would not have needed for producing my own CDS and it will remove all doubt of my potencies since I messed with the original recipe thinking I did something wrong! Always better to be safe than sorry! :-)

Thanks again!
Daniel

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What am I doing wrong??? Not getting anything CLOSE to what I have seen! 06 Apr 2014 03:07 #42766

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That is what I ended up using based on JB13's suggestion and excellent instructions and illustrations....it is in fact the easiest and most reliable manner of producing it!

Thank you!

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What am I doing wrong??? Not getting anything CLOSE to what I have seen! 06 Apr 2014 06:55 #42776

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Ray said:

If SC drop has a potential 6.7 mg CD, 6700ppm, at full activation, CDS at 3000ppm is half strength
No further internal activation occurs with CDS as there are no ingredients , just CD in CDS. MMS activates further in body than CDH which is mostly activated before ingestion but does contain SC and acid to further activate internally.


It has been said that 1ml of 3000ppm CDS is equivalent to a 3 drop dose of MMS.

As Ray pointed out a single drop of MMS came make as much as 6.7mg of CLO2 when ingested, if there is adequate stomach HCL, which most people do have.

1ml of 3000ppm CDS contains 3mg of CLO2 and can not make any more when ingested.

So, a 3 drop dose of MMS can make as much as 20.1mg of CLO2 while 1ml of CDS has only 3mg of CLO2.

To equal a 3 drop dose of MMS, it would take 6.7ml of CDS. If 1ml of CDS is used, you are only getting about 1/7 of the CLO2 that a 3 drop dose of MMS can provide.

Malaria protocol is now 18 drops of MMS which can contain 121mg of CLO2. The equivalent CDS dose (3000ppm) would be 40ml of CDS. Normal CDH would require 18ml. I would think there would be less throat burning with CDH than with CDS. My guess is that only MMS will be used to kill the malaria parasite! Although, either CDS or CDH could be administered in smaller doses in say, 1 minute intervals which would lessen the throat burning problem. Only testing will tell us what works.

No wonder the malaria parasite was not killed the one time CDS was tried.

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