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14 Nov 2012 05:24 #26493 by kwag
On october 25, 2012, scientist Andreas Ludwig Kalcker was invited by a contact through the Internet to give a conference to approximately 25 people.
The conference was in English, at a place of work of the people that made the invitation.

Before starting the conference, Andreas told the couple that invited him, that MMS could not be sold in Spain, just as in Holland.
They agreed, and said that the bottles they had were bought a long time ago, not in Spain, and were for their personal use.

When the conference ended, 12 police officers appeared and told everyone to stay sitting down.

Apparently, the organizers had sold a DVD about chlorine dioxide at the entrance, thing that police considered illegal.
They also had 1 MMS package at the entrance, and the police made them take out all MMS bottles that they had and hand them over.
They were using the MMS as desinfectant at their work place.


Anyway, long story short, Andreas needs as many signed affidavits from real cases of YOU. Yes, that means US who have been healed or healed someone of some condition, so that there is enough proof on the judge's bench, and they can throw this case out of court. (my affidavit is in process)

I don't have a date when the case will be seen. Also, I don't have an address where the affidavits can be sent. I'm sure it won't be his home address!, but I'll ask him where he wants them sent.
I've removed his address and other personal information from the document.

Here's the complete story and data (In Spanish) (Please, use Google Translate)
forum.mmspr.net/index.php?t=msg&th=500&start=0&
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14 Nov 2012 13:59 #26503 by Macaddict08
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For me.... this is a good sign....

Think about it... it means that MMS is really beginning to be a threat to 'them'.... as well as they are drawing more attention to it.

Kudos to you Andreas for hanging in there !!

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19 Nov 2012 22:19 #26828 by Sky
Yup - agree with you Clint!

The controllers do not want the Sheeples to awaken, so they use terrorist tactics to scare people shitless. They use their baseless statute Law to apply freedom restricting constraints to uneducated folks who believe their bullshit.

If Andreas needs our help - I am up for it. I have many testimonials I will forward. Keep us in the loop kwag.

The mind is like a garden, if you do not cultivate it, you cannot harvest from it.

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19 Nov 2012 22:33 #26829 by kwag

Sky wrote: If Andreas needs our help - I am up for it. I have many testimonials I will forward. Keep us in the loop kwag.


Testimonials are not very useful in a court of law.
We need to send affidavits.
Mine just went out early today. Arriving Spain this Wednesday.
A 2 page affidavit with 2 copies of laboratory tests I had from my mother, one in 2009 and the last one on 2011, clearly showing the benefits of chlorine dioxide in blood tests ;)
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19 Nov 2012 23:43 #26839 by pam
Kwag = I know Jim has mentioned the difference between a testimonial and an affidavit. Would you be willing to state it again?

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20 Nov 2012 00:05 - 20 Nov 2012 00:10 #26842 by kwag

pam wrote: Kwag = I know Jim has mentioned the difference between a testimonial and an affidavit. Would you be willing to state it again?


Hi Pam,

The testimonials, in this particular case, are not helpful because they are not sworn and signed in front of an attorney.
In this particular case, we need to provide medical proof as I did.
A testimonial can be taken as "Well, maybe it's true. Maybe not".
But a sworn testimonial (affidavit) means that if I lie, then I can be fined or thrown in jail!
So it weight is much more than a testimonial.
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20 Nov 2012 00:09 #26843 by kwag

CLO2 wrote: Karl, you were going to provide an address where to send the affidavits...

--Charlotte

Sure. Go here: voedia.com/prestashop/contact-form.php
They provide an address. But I won't post it here, because I'm not sure I'm allowed to do so without their permission.

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20 Nov 2012 00:47 #26846 by pam
Thanks, Kwag. It might have a slightly different meaning in the states (where a notary public [which is what we use to sign something as true or as actually from the person signing it]) - I know we were looking for this level of commitment in the Daniel commitment - let me look to see if I can find what Jim has said about it (for the US) - now I will say, I don't know what Spain requires, but we should do that which satisfies our own country rules, IMHO.

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20 Nov 2012 01:08 - 20 Nov 2012 01:10 #26852 by Macaddict08
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Kwag,

Not to be negative or a killjoy, but affidavits are useless in a court where the judge has been instructed (from higher up) to rule against the use of MMS.... hopefully the hearing will be fair.

Truth is, it doesn't matter what the law is, it's the judge who can and will decide what the law will be.... which only leaves an appeal.

Time will tell....


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20 Nov 2012 01:23 #26854 by kwag

pam wrote: Thanks, Kwag. It might have a slightly different meaning in the states (where a notary public [which is what we use to sign something as true or as actually from the person signing it]) - I know we were looking for this level of commitment in the Daniel commitment - let me look to see if I can find what Jim has said about it (for the US) - now I will say, I don't know what Spain requires, but we should do that which satisfies our own country rules, IMHO.

In this case, this is what Andreas has asked for. An affidavit, which is a sworn testimonial.
That translates to a sworn statement and signed by a notary public (same term here in Puerto Rico, but not sure about Spain)
I guess it all boils down to the same thing, with the same meaning, but just written differently depending on the country.

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