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Skin fungal infection caused by metal poisoning from orthodontic braces? 15 Oct 2012 20:44 #24946

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This is my 2nd message just new to this forum and I I think this is the best subforum to post my questions but if you find it will suit better in another I will appreciate any advice.

Weeks ago I went to the doctor to check a strange rush that appeared in dotted lines all along my torso; from chest to hips. The doc confirmed that it was a fungal infection. It appears as rows of pink patches of damaged skin, slightly eroded. Investigating the reason for an acute fungal infection in someone relatively young and healthy (30 y.o.) I found that the most probable reason is the stainless steel orthodontic braces I wear since eight months ago.
Nickel is one of the main components of the stainless steel of these braces. Here's what Dr. Hulda Clark says about high nickel levels in our bodies:

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My bet is that my fungal disease is a direct symptom of a nickel exposure. I'm using a compound of bentonite clay (as recommended by Jim Humble), clove, grapefruit seed extract and other plants topically to treat my skin once a day as well as wearing a Zapper 24-7 and having a dose of 6 drops twice a day of MMS (chlorine dioxide) but with not very good results for now, just I been treating this way for 4 days. So here are my questions:
  1. Do these steel braces have some kind of protective coating which prevents too much nickel to enter the body? I think one of my braces may have lost its coating by accidental filing.
  2. If the nickel is caused by the braces no matter their coating, do you advice to remove them immediately? (monetary cost matters to me, that's why I chose, regrettably, stainless steel braces but matters not that much to risk my health) Or is there a way to keep them until the end of the treatment and meanwhile chelate those metals and kill my fungal infection maintaining both levels low?
  3. MMS I heard is a good chelating agent. If so what daily dose I should be taking giving my specific situation to help degrade these metals and keep the fungal infection at bay?
  4. Can I ask for a blood analysis with levels of nickel and ammonia as a way to determine with certainty that I have intoxication from nickel and what areas of my body the fungal infection has affected and how severe is?
Thanks and I will be very appreciated for any advice on this problem you can give me.
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Skin fungal infection caused by metal poisoning from orthodontic braces? 18 Oct 2012 08:15 #25048

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it cant be from the metal directly but the metal may have weakened your immune system.
if what you have is fungal, then mms /dmso will kill it fast. its easy to treat stuff on the outside. make a spray and spray yourself regularly, also decide on a protocol(by advice through others here) and drink some to be sure.
you can get rid of metal poisoning in a number of ways although personally i cant tell you if mms does so or not as i have not been tested.

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Skin fungal infection caused by metal poisoning from orthodontic braces? 18 Oct 2012 20:53 #25072

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Thanks for your answer rowbot. I'm doing as you say and started de protocol 1000 and spray myself but I'm thinking of dropping MMS because Jim Humble says MMS actually feeds some fungal species instead of killing them so he recommends apply instead bentonite clay topically.

What I'm doing is taking orally and topically a complex that contains this:

Plantago seed husks (psyllium) powder
Tender Walnut (root bark)
Plantago lanceolate (Seeds)
Red Clover (Buds)
Acacia (Resin)
Maize cob (4:1 Extract) (Stigmata)
Rumex Crispus (Root)
Blessed Thistle (Plant)
Clove
Echinacea Angutifolia (Root)
Walnut (4:1 Extract) (Bark)
caprylic acid
Odorless garlic 1.2 (Bulbs) 10,000 mg. Allicin / g.
Bentonite (Clay)
Grapefruit Seed (4:1 extract 80 mg.)

This complex has the advantage that is antibiotic and has the chelating effect of the clay so it may kill the fungal infection if the infection is internal (Dr. Clark says Nickel accumulates in the small intestine) so it could be possible that I have fungus there and this complex may have the effect as well of chelating the Nickel there (I hope I hit two birds with one stone).

Sad thing though is that I've talked to the microbiologist in terms of the analysis and he told me that is impossible to test for a fungal infection through Nickel levels, Urease enzyme or Ammonia levels. Nickel stays in the small instestine and stays there so no way to check if there's an accumulation there through the feces for example, Nickel levels can be tested in blood but it may show low levels while you have high on the intestine and still be poisoned. Science has a very difficult time checking for fungal infections and its species even through a skin smear (frotis) and cultivation so I can only guess in that area.

To say the thruth I'm a bit preocuppied because I'm not seeing results from the MMS spraying and protocol 1000 in conjuction with the clay. Although I'm not using it with DMSO perhaps that would help to improve results?
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Skin fungal infection caused by metal poisoning from orthodontic braces? 18 Oct 2012 21:12 #25073

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I've never seen where MMS has "fed" fungal = only that it did not "cure" some. That is two very differnt things. Can we please have a cite where you found that?
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Skin fungal infection caused by metal poisoning from orthodontic braces? 19 Oct 2012 05:36 #25088

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i was not aware that MMS 'fed' any fungus, only that there was one it could not kill.
the hardest thing about this is the lack of diagnosis and self diagnosing with info from the net.
i thought that i had a fungus for years, only to discover its an over active immune response. its dry, it itches, it weeps and looks and feels exactly like something 'living' but in fact was not that at all.
id say if mms is not killing it, then its not fungus. you'd have to be really unlucky to have the one fungus that it cant kill, and id say that is v unlikely.
i know for a fact that the bob beck protocol kills EVERYTHING. no bacteria , virus or pathogen can survive electricity passing through it.
read about the bob beck protocol. if that doesnt kill what you have, id say you have mis diagnosed for sure(i think you may well have anyway).
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Hi again pam and rowbot,

To the fungal advice by Jim Humble here's his entry in genesischurch page , quoting the information in "Fungus control":

It would have been simpler if MMS had been able to handle everything in the disease world, but there seems to be a fungus that MMS simply doesn't touch. In fact, MMS seems to feed the fungus. This fungus can occur in the the feet, or hands, or most any other place in the body.

It is not athlete's feet, it is much worse. All the athletes foot sprays and powders do not touch it. It can occur on the skin, and it seems to be much worse than any other skin infection. It itches and burns terribly and it appears to be under the skin as well as on the skin. It makes the skin slightly puff up, and it looks bad and it gets worse.[...]


Thanks a lot for the info on Bob Beck's protocol rowbot I will see it in details and try it if what I'm doing now doesn't work. In that respect my fungal infection have never itched (so I deduce it's not the species the page mentions) and now it seems the fungal patches on my skin are healing a bit, they are getting less reddish and shrinking but I want to let pass a couple of weeks to be sure and see if me or who I ask to see the patches are not imagining the recovery.

Luckily the treatment I'm following will only need a bit more time to show results. These improvements on my skin seemed to be produced after I started taking the bentonite clay complex orally. I'm producing a lot of gas and going to the bathroom much more frequently so it seems the complex is doing its job well and killing pathogens in my intestine.

Actually I'm taking a lot of things and I'm not sure if one will not interfere with the others. For example to what I mentioned before add Kefir (to restore flora), Moringa Oleifeira and MMS (taken two hours after moringa given its vitamin C levels), oregano essential oil after lunch, iodine supplement each two days (both good for fungus control), Coriander tisanes (good chelating effect, helps clay) and Schussler salts (I take regularly both moringa and salts as a nutrient addition to my diet not because of the fungal infection).

What do you think? Will any of these supplements interfere with each other? Thanks for your responses pam and row and have a nice weekend.
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Thanks for the cite, Vi.

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Good news,

After a couple of weeks of treatment with the herb complex I mentioned above mixed with coriander tisanes the fungal infection is gone, a week after taking it I found a fungus colony in my stool (a big black stain) and after that the fungal patches on my skin started to heal, so most definitively the diagnosis was right. Anyone going through similar symtomps should consider metal poisoning as one of the reason of them and start chelating and killing any fungal intestinal infection they may have.

Having researched more on metal poisoning from braces I found some pretty serious testimonies from people that have had problems even worse than mine from their braces and two of them given by physicians and an environmental engineer. After reading these testimonies I'm seriously considering to remove my braces before my condition gets worse because now all the pieces are starting to fit. In a biorresonance test I've had months ago revealed problems with my hypothalamus, skin, bladder and teeth, the doctors didn't know at the time what could be originating these problems but from the testimonies the braces are the most probable cause.

Any person considering putting stainless steel braces should take these into heavy consideration, I wish I would have known all this before starting my treatment.

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My experience dates back almost 20 years when braces had higher levels of nickel in them, than what they have today. My sister, age 9, had braces put on on a Monday afternoon. 16 hours into her braces treatment she started to exhibit signs of lucidity, impaired thought process, weakness and vomiting. She progressively worsened throughout the day. Late hours of the evening she started to lose consciousness and was taken to the emergency room. Her heart rate was accelerated, persistent vomiting and liver dysfunction followed. Within 3 hours of being admitted to the ER, so passed away from cardiac arrest. Several autopsies were performed by State labs.
It all pointed back to the high levels of nickel in her blood system. She suffered from an undiagnosed hypersensitivity to metal that escalated her metal poisoning. It was only in recent years that I also found I too have the same hypersensitivity, after collapsing from a temporary crown that was in my mouth. The repeated exposure (about 14 hours) caused my body to go into shock, seizure, and lose coordination, paralysis and impaired state.
I work in the healthcare field and have since come to realize that metal allergies and sensitivity are so often misdiagnosed. After talking to colleagues in the field, many ER doctors, they admit they probably would not put these symptoms to a heavy metal poisoning diagnosis.
There are now tests that your dentist can perform to test your metal sensitivity. If your child is young or you are unsure if you are sensitive, I would ask for such test. I know that the Clifford Test is one such test and although it might not be a common test to be performed, it has literally saved my life!
I have done hours upon hours of research on metal toxicity and it is nothing to mess around with. If I knew back then what I know now, perhaps my sister would still be alive!!!
These types of allergies and reactions are so often misdiagnosed. You have to be an advocate for your own health!!
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I have worked as an environmental engineer for over 22 years. If I would visit a facility that was storing metal outside, even stainless steel, the facility would be required to monitory the stormwater for metals. Under wet conditions metal ions leach. In acidic-wet conditions, metals ions leach more readily. What will happen to metal in your mouth??
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I am curious. My 17 year old daughter has metal braces. She has had them for 5 years now. In that time, she has been diagnosed with type I diabeties and epilepsy. Can the braces have a negative affect of her?
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I too have a daughter that developed seizures within six months of getting braces - 5 1/2 years ago. I just recently realized that the two events occurred so close together. She was a perfectly healthy, happy little girl and then started having seizures out of the blue. They were worse at first, but now she just has absence seizures - she still has her braces. I truly believe that there has to be something causing the seizures. When I tried to mention this to her neurologist he wouldn't even consider it.
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I'm 17, live in England and I have had almost exactly the same symptoms as Jim in the first post. I had my braces put on for about 2 years, after 6 months i started suffering from anger problems and severe depression, which is completely different to how i used to be. I had councelling and anger management which didn't really help, it was blamed on my hormones and personal issues. Further on into the 2 years I've had serious short-term and long-term memory loss (forgetting weeks of my life). I have recently had my braces removed a week ago, so hopefully i'll return to normal, my anger seems to of gone but my memory has been constantly getting worse. I've had blood tests but nothing unnormal has been found. Atleast i now know i'm not the only person going through these things.
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I have just spent 3 + years working to get my daughter well- 6 operations later, many many many medical and alternate appointments later we found the immediate cause was the BONDED RETAINER - which we were told by all "no one can be allergic too" as it was white gold... After years of serious infections, chronic fatigue, basically non-functioning from 14 years to 17 years old.. The bonded retainer was removed as a last resort. My daughter's health improved miraculously within 24 hours! And continued to improve for some months. She currently has setbacks because of previous infections and possible metal poisoning from the braces that went undetected at the time. Looking back and now from what we have learnt - She had a ruptured appendix 2 months after the braces were put on and her health gradually declined. 2 months after her bonded retainer was put in.. she had massive pneumonia... that was August 08.. and continued to be seriously ill for years, had infected adenoids operated on, More Ent surgery for sinus infections, oral surgery for infected teeth, tumors in jaw and sinuses.... sadly the list goes on and on. Basically prior to braces she was a very healthy robust child. Braces appeared to weaken her immunity then the introduction of a new metal (the white gold that no one can be allergic too).. tipped her immunity over the edge.

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Jim Humble has stated that it's very important to get all the metals out of our mouths!!!

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