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Protocol 4000- MMS2 ONLY+ THYROID+HERPES+ROSACEA+BREAST CYSTS 09 Apr 2012 22:31 #15642

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Hi, I have read a lot about MMS, but probably not enough to dont have any questions...could you help me please ? (It would be enough to reply YESxNO, 30mins, 76days 5x doses, WARM, etc.to save your time:)
I have just started to take MMS 2 ONLY (PROTOCOL 4000) with the honey technique before I get the capsules.
Every morning for last 13days I have been drinking 1tsp of BSoda+Honey (Dr. MURPHY) in hot OAK BARK TEA 0.5L (now I am not sure if it is not an antidose+ antioxidant for MMS2...?)
15mins after: 1) at 1pm I took 1/3 of the smaller cap of capsule 0 with HONEY from FREEZER and pour down 0.5L of cold OAK TEA- nothing happened at all, so:
2)at 3pm- I drunk 250mlOAK BARK tea- 1/4 of the bigger cap of capsule 0 and pour 0.5L of OAK TEA
3)(I finished eating 30mins before)5pm- 1/2 of the bigger cap- and I 2x burped (I usually never do) so is that a good sign or bad?
4) 7pm 1 full dose of capsule 0 with Honey
5) 9pm full dose
6) 11pm full dose-(I put a bit too much honey and it sticked to my tongue- bad...) burped after and at midnight I got a HICCUPS- thats a bad sign I have read but whats bad and how to fix it?
7) 1am full dose
At 3am I brush withTTOil+ oil pulling then I had a 2drops of GRAPEFRUIT essential oil+in 1tsp olive oil+ 1multivitamin without vit.C though (together with BS+Honey- is my usual routine- does it matter if I do it all 2h before-in the morning or 2h after in the evening- of daily doses of MMS2?)

0) Can I one day start late and another early with taking MMS- can there be a greater irregularity as long as I get the 5 or 6 doses in me each day? Or how many hours max should be the time without MMS-when asleep?
MMS2-during the 12h day period=7x dose- correct? But somewhere is written max 5doses a day, somewhere is 42doses a week:7days =6x doses a day- so what is the correct dosage?
And isnt it strange I could do full doses in the first day and no headaches, diarrhoea, vomiting feeling and so on?
Or is the OAK BARK TEA antioxidant or the BS anti-dose, so thats why I was ok? Jim Humble claims only to healthy people MMS2 does nothing at all...and I dont think I am healthy:

I am hoping to cure in as short time asap with MMS2 all these:
A ) lazy-low- THYROID function- therefore high/overworking: SsTSH 5,951 mIU/l (0.17-3.50) -probably almost always, but I do not take anything on it as doctors says it is not necessary...
B ) genital HERPES (for 15yrs- 1-5 blisters- tiny outbreaks in every 1-5 mths)
C ) then Doctors overdosed me with everyday antibiotics for all 15 month nonstop- on a small rash on one of my cheek (persuading me it has an effect on skin only-right!!!) = which developed in severe ROSACEA+ digestion, eczema, depression, hair loss and other huge problems.
(since then I am trying to cure myself naturally for almost 4years with small success, however my mild ROSACEA (big pimples just on my nose+in hair+tiny little ones on rough, dry face+still pinkish face with spider capillaries) always comes back after certain healing ends (14days fasting on lemon water and cayenne, 90days of Malachov enema, entizol, vermox, herbs tea, diets etc.) ROSACEA is either due to DEMODEX HAIR MITES- PARASITE, BACTERIA- BACILLUS OLERONIUS or down to immune system dysfunction or anything...:)
D ) also since that time I have got non-cancerous BREAST CYSTS (3 in left breast and 1 in right- smaller than 0,5cm.)
E ) a bit of GUMs RECESSION and my teeth are not as white as they used to be since my Rosacea problem with antibiotics started, perhaps about the time I stopped taking HORMONAL CONTRACEPTION PILLS.
Thats why I have decided to start taking MMS2 instead of MMS1 (as cysts are probably fungus...and my problems with eczema around my trunk from antibiotics, which I never had until that time- 2years ago- could be down to candida as well...)

1) EXACT DOSAGE- I am about 58kg and very slim- so based on 70kg dose (800mg)- I should be taking 0.64mg of MMS2
- but size 0 although it says 0.68ml is labelled only as 0.5g of Magnesii lactici POWDER -the smaller part of cap is not filled and as a measure I am only filling the bigger part of this capsule with MMS2 (should be UN-CRASHED with frozen honey-right? =in tiny granules as it comes as Chlorine Pool Shock) so should I fill the smaller part of capsule as well esp. when taking it in capsules?
How many times a day and for how many days +how long it usually take the most to cure HERPES? I cannot do test on HERPES, where I am now
- I should take it to get rid of HERPES, BREAST CYSTS and ROSACEA???
And how long to take my maintenance dose, which will be 0.34mg in 1xcapsule a day so 1/2 size 0 capsule every day???
How many hours beforhead I can fill the capsules with MMS2 as it is drying them out...?

2) DRINK+EAT-BLOATED-VERY GASSY- I am now on my 6th day taking 6 x doses (bigger size cap of 0 size capsule) and apart from unpleasant feeling in my stomach up to 20mins after- gassy and fullness, heaviness, burping+2hiccups- nothing is happening-does it still cure me? Or should I increase the dosage- how? Can I expect diarrhoea etc. later on when virus etc. will be killed? When about? Can I take just 5x doses or will the cure be slower then??? Does it matter if some day I just take 5xdoses or is it strict?
I am very GASSY indeed all the time since MMS2- I drink on it cold-room temperature water- so should it be WARM boiled water or how can I stop this gas producing in my tummy??? Very unpleasant indeed.
I drink water always after about 250-500ml but almost never before- is that a problem? What else can I drink on MMS2- herbal tea, south american coffee from beans and roots- warm or cold- should it be acidic or alkaline? And what should be eaten before taking MMS2?
EATING should be finished 20-30mins prior to taking any dose of MMS2? And how many minutes after one is allowed to eat-with capsules swallowing? And apart from apple what else I can eat straight on if MMS2 get stuck in my mouth/throat?
What else one should NOT EAT- or is anything ok after 2hours before or 2hours after: Even bloating+ water taking food as: BEANS, LENTILS, PEAS, RAW ONION +NO grains, rice, oats?
e.g.sugar, milk, flour, meat or I can a bit, however I will slow the curing process? But even raw carrot makes very gassy noises in my stomach...so what to eat to feel better?

3) ANTI-DOSE-Also 3rd day and on 3rd dose the honey with MMS2 got stuck on my tongue- I could not swallow it and the taste was very unpleasant so I pour on it bubbly MINERAL WATER with CITRIC ACID. First I was very bad from my stomach as it became gradually until this 3rd day very gassy and also I have Easter-eaten that day quite a lot...this lasted about half an hour but then I felt surprisingly very good, light and not stomach upset at all...So did the CITRIC ACID as well as ASCORBIC vit. C destroy the MMS2? And shall I start counting MMS2 days after this episode, therefore since my 4th day???

4) SUPPLEMENTS- ASCORBIC ACID-vit.C is even added in a BREAD and all BAKING food- do I have to stop eating it while on MMS2?
Vit.C with rosehips with continuous dosing can be used before bedtime or not with MMS2 at all just ascorbic acid at bedtime or what and ?g? 1g or 2x2g of vit C is a must?Magnesium ?g? (pretty confusing:)
SOME ANTIOXIDANTS (Edta, E220 etc.) are also in things like Mayonnaise, Pickeled Olives- should one not eat these at all- how strict is it?
And what about HERBAL-BARKs TEAs- I read GREEN TEA is a NO-NO so are all herbs then or what else?
What about Essential oils, ACVinegar, BSoda 2hours after or before MMS2? Or just at bedtime?
Any ?g of vitamins+minerals+probiotics are necessary to take while on MMS2?
What ANTIOXIDANTS ARE PIVOTAL for quick curing while on MMS2? Or all should be taken after with the maintenance dose and not now?

5) BATH DRYING SKIN+ DESTROYS HAIR if left in for long!- In 2011 I started to bath in MMS2- 1tsp- 1Tbsp in a bath first I stayed in it as it is very pleasant- I could lie there forever- 2hours thereafter just about 1h, however once in MMS2 bath I have developed a patch of eczema which i had once 2years ago and it continued to spread all around my trunk even though I stopped bathing in MMS2 after while...even though I put oil after baths, my skin felt and look over-dry.
And even now, I put 1tsp in 1h bath and coconut oil after- when I sit the skin especially on my back felt like it is going to crack- I remembered the feeling from before...it goes after a day or two and then the skin improves, but not sure if it develops the eczema due to dryness or if it just brings it to the surface??? Any idea?
Shall I continue bathing? How often? And for how long- is1h or 1,5h bath ok? Or am I just drying my skin out?
Or do the pathogens after prescribed 30mins bath come out and then they might come back in the skin as it is a mild solution of MMS2 just 1tsp??? Or they are dead at the moment they come out of the skin?
What can I add to bath with MMS2- e.g. vinegar, 3drops of ess.oil, oil, herbs tea, borax to make it more nourishing but not supressing the detox efferct of MMS2? Can I still bath in Boric acid water, manganese, bentonite clay etc. while on MMS2?
Should I use MMS2 spray on face? How many times a day-every hour for Rosacea?

6) HCl NEED- Is MMS2 functioning as acid or alkaloid in the body? Do I need to take BS regularly to help kill the fungus or MMS2 manages that perfectly on its own?
What is the ANTI-DOSE of MMS2 apart of lots of water (BS?)?
If MMS2 dries my skin- doesnt it do the same to my tubes/stomach?
Doesnt it rip of acid? Do I need HCl intake regularly? I have a technical, synthetic 31% HCl, which I read can be used internally, however how? If I put 9parts of EU BOILED DRINKING TAP WATER in a glass and pour in 1part of 31% HCL in pharmacy dark glass bottle- I get 3,1% HCl-correct? (how long it will be ok in dark glass medical bottle?) And then I should take ?drops in ? tap water and drink it with straw? 20mins before and after MMS2 or/and after food? How it supposed to be taken and for how long? How many 3,1% HCl drops could I add to my bath?
I am a bit afraid that taking HCl might stop self-produced HCl in my stomach...???
But in pharmacy they make 10% HCl for stomach insufficiency...?
How many drops of 3,1% can be put on herpes or area of outbreaks? Its probably not a problem not to have 3,5%HCL exactly, right? If nothing will be happening after 2 or more weeks with MMS2 I have read I should add MMS1 (P 2000) so could I then mix MMS1 even with this 3,1% HCl as if it was 3,5% or I should add an extra drops- how many?

7) EMERGENCY NEW NATURAL CAPSULE? One more thing- couldnt I put raisins (might contain sulphurous OXID as any other dry fruit+ also antioxidant E220- problematic?) in fridge and then fill always one with my MMS2 dose and seal it with freezed honey and make a natural capsule like that? Or would it be difficult for MMS2 to dissolve in stomach from inside the raisin? As the honey mixing on 2 spoons gets very messy to try to add all the granules in and the taste is there still a bit- as one has to engage lips or teeth to take it off the tip of the spoon and then find the water in mouth to swallow and it sticks sometimes- even if done well, which is more of a chance:)

Hope your answers will help also others as there is not much information on these specific issues.
Many thanks for taking your time and for your help. Have a lovely day

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65days-6xd-NO CURE!?- MMS2 ONLY+ THYROID+HERPES+ROSACEA+BREAST CYSTS 07 Jun 2012 22:28 #18405

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Hi, no answers, so perhaps I give you an update and hope for one to come-
I have been taking religiously
6 x capsules size 0 every day, every 2nd hour of a day -P4000- (+bath with 1tsp of MMS2 once a week)
now for 65 days MMS 2 POOL CHLOR SHOCK with NO VISIBLE RESULTS at all- since day one I had no diarrhea or vomiting and started as described in previous post. Drinking 0,5 litr with each capsule- started with boiled tap water (no fluoride) now I use herbal tea so not even gassy stomach I experienced anymore as with boiled water there was a pressure even up my throat...

MY UNCANCEROUS BREAST CYSTS 0,5cm did not change a bit- anyone knows if MMS1 cures them- baths- or MMS2should do?

My ROSACEA is the same I think-difficult to count pimples-one day less one day more...should I use MMS1 topically to cure it???
Herpes they dont do tests on here, so hard to say, but someone here said I think that it takes over the month to cure it with MMS2 only?

Could someone please ask JIM HUMBLE for how long max I can take those 6capsules MMS2 a day to dont hurt myself? It should not acumulate in the body or pierce the guds or deprive the body of the stomach HCL- or could it???
My kidneys might be overworked with drinking 3l + of herbal tea each day, or not?
Anyone there please to advise me???
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Re: Protocol 4000- MMS2 ONLY+ THYROID+HERPES+ROSACEA+BREAST CYSTS 07 Jun 2012 23:08 #18408

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Hi,
Fruit Tree

Plus informations over the Protocol 4000

www.michaelharrah.us/humble-protocols/55-protocol-4000

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Re: Protocol 4000- MMS2 ONLY+ THYROID+HERPES+ROSACEA+BREAST CYSTS 08 Jun 2012 16:56 #18447

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i may have missed it but did not see the exact % of calcium hypochlorite (pool shock) michael was using in his doses.
he talked about different %'s of 40 to 100 but what % was he basing his bi-hour doses on? ie; 40% would need twice as much as 80%

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Re: Protocol 4000- MMS2 ONLY+ THYROID+HERPES+ROSACEA+BREAST CYSTS 08 Jun 2012 18:00 #18449

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Hi,
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The Michael use Leslie’s pool shock 73% calcium hypochlorite. There are several percentage not use Pool Schock with a percentage lower than 65%.
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Re: Protocol 4000- MMS2 ONLY+ THYROID+HERPES+ROSACEA+BREAST CYSTS 27 Jun 2012 18:04 #19277

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Hi, thanks for your answers!
I take calcium hypochlorite-MMS2 (ES 231-908-7)KING POOL CHLOR SHOCK- from German company)
=min. 950g in 1kg
so it is 95% correct???


www.michaelharrah.us/humble-protocols/55-protocol-4000 and you are saying Michael used 73% MMS2?- even I couldnt see it in that link...www.michaelharrah.us/Protocols-Jim-Humble/protocol-4000.html

SO MY CALCULATIONS:
Jim says for 12hours a day...???+ 42doses a week :7=6 capsules a day bi-hourly, but then Jim writes he cured HIV after only 5wks on 5xcapsles a day!???
So should one take just 5x or 6x capsules a day???
-about 70kg person should take= 800mg MMS2 capsule 0
-about 45kg=500mg MMS2 capsule size1
=so if I weight between 58-60kg :0.09=644- 667mg so size 0 UNCRASHED 95% MMS2
I decided so, as in pharmacy POWDERED Magnesium in size 0 capsule says =0,5g!!! So I was more worried I might be not taking enough of MMS2- but you are saying I am maybe taking too much and thats why I dont see any cure...if mine is 95%MMS2...
Anyone weighted the MMS2 in capsule 0 filling just the bigger part of a capsule
and can get his head around the correct dosage?
Should I take 6x size 1 then or rather 5x size 0 perhaps or even 5x size 1- if mine is 95%MMS2???

I would really like your help to get it right as I am now on 85th day (I take 6x size 0 (at 2pm-4pm-6-8-10-12- everyday) and I dont want to take too much to not cure myself with it neither want I to mess it up!
I do NOT TAKE ANY ASCORBIC ACID as I have heared from Jim that it isnt necessary with MMS2
ONLY with MMS1 (1g of ascorbic acid 2h before or after MMS1), however very rarely I take 2h after or 4-5h before 500mg of ASCORUTIN and Multivitamin or orange juice for breakfast always at least 2h before 1st dose of MMS2- that should not cause any problem-correct?

I have read that Michael I think, cure people from HERPES (virus or intracellular parasite- new theory) within 2months of MMS2 only,
however AFTER 67days I still got- as usual- 3 HERPES BLISTERS (so I must be doing something WRONG, not?)
I left on it also MMS2 (1capsule in 30ml water) on cotton pad- it hurt terribly- made a red bloody mark also all around it on mucous membrane and healed longer than usual 5days. Probably it can be used on skin but not on mucosa!? Is there a point to put it on herpes direct? perhaps just spray and wipe it off if there will be a next time???

Should I use also MMS1 due to my ROSACEA (15 drops 2xa day or 3drops 8x day and how many MMS2 then or MMS3? And if I would start using MMS1 just for bath+teeth+spray- do I need to take ascorbic acid or not?)
or shall I continue just with MMS2 just lower somehow the dosage??? Can it not cure if dosage is too high- really???

Since the start I was terribly overgassy with a tiny nausea from my belly- more like ill feeling- but nothing serious- I was drinking a bit of water before and more after MMS2- alltogether 300-500ml of boiled tap- cold water.
Now I am making UNSWEETENED TEA just with 3 small leaves of various herbs just to taste and the gassiness almost dispapeared- not sure if because of the herbs added as the tendency was there beforehand.
Does the gassiness means that patogens in stomach and guts are dying???

And would you know, what works on BREAST CYST (noncancerous- 3x0,5cm size)
- probably fungus-not sure- as GP overload me with 15moth of ANTIBIOTICS on small rash on my cheeks and thanks to that Í got severe ROSACEA (now mild thanks to 4years of herbal etc. home curing but hope MMS will get rid of it for good:)


I would really welcome any suggestion, however small as I am new to this-
and people around me are saying I am totally crazy doing some net USA cure saying goverment+fear this and that-
that MMS does not cure me and can easily pierce my guds even without me knowing etc., that I can have big problems many years after due to MMS, that it is not a tried medication and I am really their trying rabbit-testing animal etc. etc
also doctor in my family does not believe I do this, so I would really like to show them some result, otherwise they will drive me mad:)
I am a big believer in peoples flower-power, I would like to do without government, so you surely play on my strings, however I hope it is for real- and GOOD:)
Jim, have you never done any tests-study on MMS and fertility, blood screening changes (one woman did on one person and did not rec MMS due to some blood cloth- black mark changes in the blood cells) etc. before and afterwards- years after the use of MMS? If you worked with many hospitals it should not be a problem- you are saying you cannot publish any of them, but did you do any longterm? Are women having healthy babies after taking longterm MMS still 10 years after?

I would really appreciate some light on that:)
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