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CDS to MMS equivalence not making sense 06 Feb 2012 13:16 #11675

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Hi All,

Just wanted first to say thanks for an excellent forum.

Made my first batch of CDS yesterday and think it all went okay. Only problem I had was making sure the kitchen was well ventilated.

I made about 1000ml of approx 3000 ppm CDS using 50ml MMS + 50ml of 50% citric acid using the method as described by Pavel and Charlotte – this seems to be roughly inline with what most people or getting.

What doesn’t make sense to me is that the quoted equivalence of 1 drop MMS equivalent to 3 drops of MMS at 3000ppm seems far too good to be true.

Here’s why. To make the sums simple, assume I’d made slightly more, 1050ml of CDS instead of 1000. This means that after using the 1 drop MMS to 3 drops CDS value, I have the equivalent of 1050/3 = 350ml of CDS from 50ml of MMS = a 7:1 equivalence instead of the quoted 3:1.

And that is assuming no losses from the conversion process. So in practice I’d have expected something like 8:1.

Can someone explain where my figures/assumptions are going wrong please – as it stands CDS is giving a minimum of 250% better efficiency in its usage/killing power than MMS.

Is CDS working so much more efficiently once it gets inside the body?

Thanks in anticipation,
Richard.

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Re: CDS to MMS equivalence not making sense 07 Feb 2012 15:51 #11763

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....thanks for the info Charlotte.

Looks like I misread the equivalence…. looked elsewhere and I can now see the equivalent is stated at 1 ml of CDS at 3000 ppm is equivalent to 3 drops of MMS.

Now as 1 ml is about 25 drops, this is making more sense to me since this is inline with the approximate 8:1 ratio of CDS to MMS I stated above .

But you say that 1ml of CDS (at 3000 ppm) is equivalent to 3 drops of activated MMS ( ie 1.5 drops MMS + 1.5 drops of 50% citric acid) - could you give me your reference for where you saw this please – I think it should refer to incactivated MMS.

Richard.

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Re: CDS to MMS equivalence not making sense 08 Feb 2012 13:16 #11859

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.... thanks once again for the feedback Charlotte.

I understand about the different types of acid available to activate the MMS. But I think it is very confusing, to say that 1 ml CDS = 3 drops activated MMS if you're not bringing the activator into the calculation, because you are actually referring to MMS without the acid ... so much better just to refer to it as MMS.

That aside, what I said earlier in this thread about the equivalence, I now believe to be completely incorrect, here's why.

I mentioned earlier that I made 1000ml of approx 3000 ppm CDS using 50ml MMS + 50ml of 50% citric.

Well the equivalence in this case is simple, it must surely be
1000 / 50 = 20 as an absoulte minimum without losses for 3000 ppm CDS

With converion losses from gasses escaping etc it's probably at least 25 parts CDS to 1 part MMS.

ie: 25:1 whether or not you're comparing drops, ml, grams or whatever.

On this basis, a more general conversion formula could be written as

Equivalent CDS in drops = 25 * CDS concentation in ppm / 300

This brings it inline with a separate post I saw from Nir ref.
reference: "CDS effectiveness in the bloodstream (information)... 07 Feb 2012 09:02

Of course this conversion is dependant on the chlorine dioxide from CDS behaving the same in the body as it does from MMS – as yet I’ve not seen any evidence that it doesn’t.

Richard

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Re: CDS to MMS equivalence not making sense 08 Feb 2012 13:18 #11860

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oops!... apologies, I meant to say

Equivalent CDS in drops = 25 * CDS concentation in ppm / 3000

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Re: CDS to MMS equivalence not making sense 09 Feb 2012 09:20 #11966

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You are right Charlotte. Measuring drops are a pain. What you say is simple to follow.

....using that example of 1 ml MMS + 1 ml of 50% citric acid, one arrives at Protocol 1000's daily dose requirement.
Using JH's 25 drops = 1 ml, is 24 drops of each = 1 ml each solution!

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