Interstitial cystitis

Dear friends: I would like to know if MMS can treat interstitial cystitis? Are there any relevant precedents?

JasonWang wrote:

Dear friends: I would like to know if MMS can treat interstitial cystitis? Are there any relevant precedents? 

Yes, MMS1 has cured interstitial cystitis as shown in a video testimonial made by Mark Grenon. The video testimonial I watched said the problem was resolved in 48 hours. More testimonials for interstitial cystitis here . 

That's amazing, thank you.

I recently learned that Mark was imprisoned for promoting MMS. I feel deeply saddened and regretful, as what Mark did is precisely what I plan to do in China. China's medical insurance funds are severely depleted, making it increasingly difficult for Chinese people to access healthcare. Even numerous hospitals are operating at a loss and closing down. The miraculous therapeutic effects of MMS should provide relief to countless Chinese patients. I understand that pioneers promoted MMS in China a decade ago, but their approach involved public advocacy and selling MMS at relatively low prices. This clashed with the interests of the mainstream medical establishment, leading to significant backlash and ultimately their disappearance. I am now connecting with licensed Chinese medicine practitioners (TCM) in China. My plan is to package CDH as a TCM ancestral secret formula, allowing patients to receive MMS treatment through TCM prescriptions. We have reached a consensus with these practitioners on promoting MMS. I would appreciate your insights on whether this approach is viable. Which conditions demonstrate the strongest therapeutic responses to MMS? I intend to prioritize promoting it for these most effective indications. If you feel this inquiry is too sensitive, I understand and respect your decision not to respond. Thank you. Translated with DeepL.com (free version)

JasonWang wrote:

I recently learned that Mark was imprisoned for promoting MMS. I feel deeply saddened and regretful, as what Mark did is precisely what I plan to do in China. China's medical insurance funds are severely depleted, making it increasingly difficult for Chinese people to access healthcare. Even numerous hospitals are operating at a loss and closing down. The miraculous therapeutic effects of MMS should provide relief to countless Chinese patients. I understand that pioneers promoted MMS in China a decade ago, but their approach involved public advocacy and selling MMS at relatively low prices. This clashed with the interests of the mainstream medical establishment, leading to significant backlash and ultimately their disappearance. I am now connecting with licensed Chinese medicine practitioners (TCM) in China. My plan is to package CDH as a TCM ancestral secret formula, allowing patients to receive MMS treatment through TCM prescriptions. We have reached a consensus with these practitioners on promoting MMS. I would appreciate your insights on whether this approach is viable. Which conditions demonstrate the strongest therapeutic responses to MMS? I intend to prioritize promoting it for these most effective indications. If you feel this inquiry is too sensitive, I understand and respect your decision not to respond. Thank you. Translated with DeepL.com (free version)

 

Hi Jason, thank you for bringing forth some unheard aspect about healthcare sector in China. That sounds appalling. I appreciate if you can throw some more light on this with cases.

Your approach to use TCM practitioners is very intuitive. I wish you a success in your efforts. Xiexie

Hello, thank you for your attention. China's medical insurance funds have been severely depleted during the COVID-19 pandemic years. This is because the Chinese government implemented a nationwide free nucleic acid testing policy, with peak periods requiring daily testing for the entire population. Given China's enormous population base, this represented an immense economic burden. Chinese hospitals operate as self-financing healthcare institutions, essentially functioning like commercial enterprises. When China's medical insurance funds were abundant, hospitals commonly adopted overmedicalization strategies—treating minor ailments excessively or treating non-existent conditions—to maximize profits. This practice significantly contributed to massive waste of insurance funds. Therefore, to conserve medical insurance expenditures, the Chinese government established the DRG (Diagnosis-Related Groups) insurance system. Under this system, the Medical Insurance Bureau organizes experts to set a baseline treatment cost for each disease. This means that for any specific illness, the Bureau will only reimburse hospitals up to this basic cost. Any expenses exceeding this amount must either be covered by the hospital itself or become out-of-pocket costs for the patient. While this system has its merits, its downside is that it increases the burden on both hospitals and patients. Compounded by China's rapidly declining population and economy, fewer people are paying into the insurance system while more are drawing from it. The deficit in medical insurance funds is not a problem that can be resolved quickly. Consequently, the irreconcilable conflict has led to many hospitals struggling financially, accumulating debt, or even going bankrupt. Meanwhile, the vast majority of the Chinese people face increasing difficulties in accessing medical care, with growing economic pressures. Currently, China's medical insurance funds, hospitals, and patients all face immense pressure, with dissatisfaction across all parties. This is the overall situation. May I ask which country you are from? Is it difficult to access medical care in your country? Are you aware that during the pandemic, India used Ivermectin and Bolivia used chlorine dioxide to effectively control the situation? Furthermore, from what I understand, MMS treatment for COVID-19 is more effective and faster than Ivermectin. Therefore, I believe in MMS and I believe in this forum. Translated with DeepL.com (free version)

JasonWang wrote:

Hello, thank you for your attention. China's medical insurance funds have been severely depleted during the COVID-19 pandemic years. This is because the Chinese government implemented a nationwide free nucleic acid testing policy, with peak periods requiring daily testing for the entire population. Given China's enormous population base, this represented an immense economic burden. Chinese hospitals operate as self-financing healthcare institutions, essentially functioning like commercial enterprises. When China's medical insurance funds were abundant, hospitals commonly adopted overmedicalization strategies—treating minor ailments excessively or treating non-existent conditions—to maximize profits. This practice significantly contributed to massive waste of insurance funds. Therefore, to conserve medical insurance expenditures, the Chinese government established the DRG (Diagnosis-Related Groups) insurance system. Under this system, the Medical Insurance Bureau organizes experts to set a baseline treatment cost for each disease. This means that for any specific illness, the Bureau will only reimburse hospitals up to this basic cost. Any expenses exceeding this amount must either be covered by the hospital itself or become out-of-pocket costs for the patient. While this system has its merits, its downside is that it increases the burden on both hospitals and patients. Compounded by China's rapidly declining population and economy, fewer people are paying into the insurance system while more are drawing from it. The deficit in medical insurance funds is not a problem that can be resolved quickly. Consequently, the irreconcilable conflict has led to many hospitals struggling financially, accumulating debt, or even going bankrupt. Meanwhile, the vast majority of the Chinese people face increasing difficulties in accessing medical care, with growing economic pressures. Currently, China's medical insurance funds, hospitals, and patients all face immense pressure, with dissatisfaction across all parties. This is the overall situation. May I ask which country you are from? Is it difficult to access medical care in your country? Are you aware that during the pandemic, India used Ivermectin and Bolivia used chlorine dioxide to effectively control the situation? Furthermore, from what I understand, MMS treatment for COVID-19 is more effective and faster than Ivermectin. Therefore, I believe in MMS and I believe in this forum. Translated with DeepL.com (free version)

 

Hi Jason: It was indeed interesting to learn more about the situation in China, yet made me sorry. Reminded me of "Death of Despair" book by Nobel laureate Sir Angus. Is China falling into the same trap? 

It would be interesting to learn about the influence and efficacy of TCM in China? Or has TCM been overridden by the industrial medicine?

Season's greetings, and Cheers,
 

I believe that in this money-driven era, whether it's traditional Chinese medicine or Western medicine, no doctor will ever prioritize the patient's interests 100%. Moreover, any truly effective, affordable, and safe medication or treatment method will inevitably be suppressed—no matter where in the world. This is a tragedy for all humanity.

JasonWang wrote:

I believe that in this money-driven era, whether it's traditional Chinese medicine or Western medicine, no doctor will ever prioritize the patient's interests 100%. Moreover, any truly effective, affordable, and safe medication or treatment method will inevitably be suppressed—no matter where in the world. This is a tragedy for all humanity.
 

Hi again, Jason, thanks for your observation. Yet TCM reportedly existed in civilized China for millenia. TCM is like grand-mother's recipe in China, right? Just wondering how come it slipped out of the hand of the traditional herbalists?

From your own observation about TCM practitioners getting commercial, how come will you manage TCM practitioners to integrate ClO2 into their practice as you have proposed earlier? Just scratching my head to get into the matter.

Anyway, I wish you a luck.

I'm happy to answer your question:Traditional Chinese medicine in China today is vastly different from what it was thousands of years ago. In the past, TCM was passed down through the master-apprentice system, where apprentices gained practical experience by working directly on the front lines of clinical practice. Nowadays, TCM is taught through mass education programs like TCM universities, leading to a severe disconnect between theory and clinical application. This has significantly reduced the efficiency and quality of the learning process. Additionally, traditional Chinese medicinal herbs once grew in entirely natural environments, whereas today they are predominantly cultivated artificially. Compounding this, widespread adulteration of herbs by some Chinese practitioners has significantly degraded the quality of raw materials. Finally, Chinese medicine hospitals largely emulate the management systems and profit models of Western hospitals (specifically the model established by Rockefeller at Peking Union Medical College Hospital a century ago), leading to the comprehensive Westernization of Chinese medicine institutions. I acknowledge that highly skilled TCM practitioners still exist in China today, but they are becoming increasingly rare. Whether you encounter such a doctor largely depends on your luck. The wisdom accumulated over thousands of years of TCM is steadily dissipating in the river of time, with very little remaining. Which country are you from? Are you very interested in Chinese traditional medicine? Translated with DeepL.com (free version)