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Dr. has abandoned me. Latest update 08 Feb 2012 01:03 #11823

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Hello All,

Well, today I got a call from my drs. office. I was told that they had received my lab work (done last Friday) and they were confused why they got it.

Apparently, the dr. decided to drop me as his patient back in December when he got my lengthy letter telling him that I had gone off the ARVs. Apparently, his assistant was supposed to tell me this back then but never got in touch. She said today that she thought I knew about it already. Thus the confusion over why they got lab work.

So, all I know is what she told me. Apparently, he feels that there isn't any sense in remaining my physician if I am not going to follow his advice and take the ARVs. Guess I was hoping that he would be compassionate enough to want to continue to monitor my health on my terms. NOT.

And I like the guy. Oh well. His choice. I still have my primary care physician to fall back on if I need medical care so I am not concerned. Just sort of wondering if I would be denied serious medical care if I refused to take the meds.

Feeling good. Still seeing the Oriental Medicine MD every two weeks or so.

So, I gave up the meds and now I am giving up the man who prescribed them to me every month for the last 2 years. HA! Kind of funny actually. Another part of the healing process.

I will report my lab results when I get them. Mainly interested in the CD4 count. The doctor's asst. is mailing them to me. At any rate, I am feeling much better off of those toxic killers.

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Re: Dr. has abandoned me. Latest update 08 Feb 2012 02:53 #11831

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Good job Terry!

You are in the best position to make your own health decisions. The unbelievable arrogance of experts who can't let you decide for yourself--good grief.

You are far better off being separated from some advisor like that. I am happy and glad for you. You certainly don't need 'help' from some control freak like that.

If you have made a thoughtful and informed choice, as your letter no doubt demonstrated, then he should have enough respect for you to support your choices. I think this has revealed something that was hidden away under the surface, and you are better off for knowing it, and getting away from it.

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Re: Dr. has abandoned me. Latest update 08 Feb 2012 05:24 #11843

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Keep up the good work Terry! It's always good to know where there is an MD - in case you break your arm. :>)

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Re: Dr. has abandoned me. Latest update 08 Feb 2012 16:40 #11884

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Mind you, I stay as far away from doctors as I can - I was a medical office manager for one who was bipolar, once upon a time, so have a little experience with the field. And the limitations of the docs.

Some things to keep in mind.
1. Most of them really hate to have a patient die on them. Not only is it difficult emotionally, but it's not real good on their records - even in fields where death is pretty much assured, like oncology.
2. Almost all of them are trained in surgery and pharmaceutical intervention. That's all they know.
3. Almost all are members of an association that will censure them for treating outside "accepted modalities" - and the pharma-controlled FDA determines those modalities. Particularly if it's the doc's primary speciality.
4. Doctor's records are open for review (HIPPA? HA!) by insurance companies and can be opened via court requests.
5. Even if a doc is not protecting himself and his practice, s/he really doesn't know more than the FDA, medical associations, their medical schools, and big pharma tell them. They are limited by the very training they have had. If a patient is unwilling to follow their "all they know" - they don't know what else to do - so best to release the patient to find someone who might be able to help.

6. The big 'bitch' (in my mind) is that the testing that might allow someone to follow the efficacy of an alternative treatment is "gateway-controlled" by the same system that the docs work within.

Congrats, Terry, on taking charge of your own care! As Paul says, good to have a PCP - (if you break your arm!)
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Re: Dr. has abandoned me. Latest update 08 Feb 2012 17:51 #11894

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Thanks Pam. That brings up a question. I do have the legal right to ask for all of my medical record from this Doc? Yes?
How should I go about it? By phone, letter, certified mail?

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Re: Dr. has abandoned me. Latest update 08 Feb 2012 18:20 #11897

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Terry, I don't know where you are - but in the US, you have a legal right to your medical records. Usually it's just a matter of signing a release form, releasing them to you. You might have to go by the office to do that (if they get pissy and want you to use THEIR form) - some offices will insist on only releasing them to another doctor, BUT HIPPA says otherwise. If you are concerned that a letter might get "lost" - a certified letter will probably be the best.
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Re: Dr. has abandoned me. Latest update 08 Feb 2012 18:25 #11898

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In defense of various doctoring modalities ......I have had to ask people leave my practice for exactly the same reason but sort of in reverse. For example: If a client of mine decides to go with chemo or ARVs - that is in direct opposition to what I do. I build up the immune system and chemo/ARVs destroys it. So, it is best for the client to decide which avenue he wants and simply stick with that decision. I am not arrogant about my way of treating - I hope. I prefer it - and I like it, I am trained in it and I think it is better for some people, but I will release anyone who prefers another form of healing. One of my definitions of dis-ease is, 'a disconnection between heart and head". I certainly would not want to foster that kind of disconnection in my client. That would be very against the oath - 'First - do know harm'. If you are able to think it - change those feelings of abandonment to feelings of freedom, of maturity. Feel your new freedom and embrace it. You have chosen another way to heal....it is not a better way for everyone. It is a better way for you. You have assumed the responsibility for your healing and that is a wonderful thing. If I can be of help, email me personally at This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. and I hope giving that address is not against any rules.. congrats on your freedom!

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Re: Dr. has abandoned me. Latest update 08 Feb 2012 23:24 #11925

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Thanks to everyone who has responded to this thread!!

I appreciate your support! Changes in perspective sometimes happen quickly with me. I had already, since last night, realized the blessings bestowed on me by my doctor's decision.

I had made the decision to use MMS1 to heal back in early Fall of last year. The final cause of any anxiety has been what he would do. Yesterday, that was revealed to me. What a relief I am feeling today! Now I can totally focus of what is best for me and not concern myself with what others think about my decision.

By the way, my case worker in the health department has been very supportive, which is great!

Actually, I have basically been paying my doctor to poison me, in my perspective. Not his, of course. But still, that is about all he has been doing. Prescribing ARVs that he, himself, told me would probably eventually be the cause of my death! Also to interpret lab results that I really have very little faith in. So, I do see this as a new level of freedom to make my own choices in my health care. He could not agree to my decision and that is fine. I hold no anger or discontent against him. He is a very gentle and kind man and I honor him for his attention and care over the past two years. I know that he was only doing what he felt was the best thing for me...and actually, probably his only choice.

Thanks for the email address. I will keep you in mind. Your post has already helped me to feel very good about this. Terry
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Dr. has abandoned me. Latest update 02 Dec 2014 18:09 #48318

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Hello Terry,

I was reading through your posts where you mentioned your CD4 count was down to around 40 (3%)
Are you still doing MMS or other things; has your CD4 count improved; how are you feeling?

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