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                04 Mar 2020 04:27                #62731
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        Hi Everyone!
My name is Guineith Isaacs and I am a Widowed Mum to two grown up boys, my husband died when my younger son was just 3 months old, and he's almost 17 now. I also have a 2 hour weekly radio spot on the USA Prepares Radio Show and am interested in preparedness in general. I have a 20 acre farm in Central Victoria, Australia, that I own, and I grow vegetables, keep dogs and chickens and occasionally break in horses, either to ride myself or to sell.
I was drawn to MMS therapy by the threat of Coronavirus (Covid19) and as well as studying MMS as a possible remedy, I am also interested in herbal remedies such as infusions of herbs such as garlic, onion, marigold, etc in alcohol. I am currently investigating making sodium chlorite by electrolysis from table salt, and I'll keep you all posted on the results! Because if we see a full systemic collapse, you're not going to be able to source NaClO2 from India or wherever, and IMHO, that's where this is heading. But practically everyone has table salt in their house, and if we can convert it to sodium chlorite, that's good for us!
I'll keep you all posted on the results of this little science experiment, until then, Adios!
    My name is Guineith Isaacs and I am a Widowed Mum to two grown up boys, my husband died when my younger son was just 3 months old, and he's almost 17 now. I also have a 2 hour weekly radio spot on the USA Prepares Radio Show and am interested in preparedness in general. I have a 20 acre farm in Central Victoria, Australia, that I own, and I grow vegetables, keep dogs and chickens and occasionally break in horses, either to ride myself or to sell.
I was drawn to MMS therapy by the threat of Coronavirus (Covid19) and as well as studying MMS as a possible remedy, I am also interested in herbal remedies such as infusions of herbs such as garlic, onion, marigold, etc in alcohol. I am currently investigating making sodium chlorite by electrolysis from table salt, and I'll keep you all posted on the results! Because if we see a full systemic collapse, you're not going to be able to source NaClO2 from India or wherever, and IMHO, that's where this is heading. But practically everyone has table salt in their house, and if we can convert it to sodium chlorite, that's good for us!
I'll keep you all posted on the results of this little science experiment, until then, Adios!
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                04 Mar 2020 11:12         -  04 Mar 2020 11:12        #62746
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        My understanding is that method of trying to get NaCLO2 from NACL does not work. You will get something else. Don't recall the reference.
This company will ship sodium chlorite to you. Their prices are reasonable.
    This company will ship sodium chlorite to you. Their prices are reasonable.
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                04 Mar 2020 19:34         -  04 Mar 2020 19:37        #62764
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        Hi Guineith
In case you know about MMS2, and which is HOCL (hypochlorous acid), then that can be manufactured at home the way you are suggesting. That is, as long as you got electricity and a generator, and salt and water.
I don't know how good these generators are or the amount of HOCL they make, but HOCL generators are being sold online
So you definitely were on track of something, just not MMS1. Although MMS1 and MMS2 are quite similar.
Chlorine Dioxide has 3 ingredients that all have strong antimicrobial properties. Salt, acid and oxygen. Salt(s) is known as an "electrolyte" necessary for "conductivity" inside the body. Acid, like ascorbic acid (Vit C), is known to be converted to hydrogen peroxide when it breaks down inside the body. And life giving oxygen should pour into our bloodstream via the lungs.
I believe salt(s) and acid(s) to be involved in the generating of voltage, voltage that is needed to transform (electrolyte) regular oxygen into smaller and more reactive oxidants like hypochlorous acid. Yes the immune system generates MMS2
Other bleaches the immune system generates are hydrogen peroxide, superoxide and ozone:
www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2002/11/021115070456.htm
Another way of generating MMS2 (hypochlorous acid) is to add calsium hypochlorite to water. Calcium hypochlorite is used to keep swimming pools bug free. This is what got coined "MMS2" by Jim Humble.
I believe that if I make sure I get enough salt, acid and oxygen, then the immune system has what it needs to generate oxidants. In case it's not that simple I have sodium chlorite at hand 
    
    In case you know about MMS2, and which is HOCL (hypochlorous acid), then that can be manufactured at home the way you are suggesting. That is, as long as you got electricity and a generator, and salt and water.
I don't know how good these generators are or the amount of HOCL they make, but HOCL generators are being sold online
So you definitely were on track of something, just not MMS1. Although MMS1 and MMS2 are quite similar.
Chlorine Dioxide has 3 ingredients that all have strong antimicrobial properties. Salt, acid and oxygen. Salt(s) is known as an "electrolyte" necessary for "conductivity" inside the body. Acid, like ascorbic acid (Vit C), is known to be converted to hydrogen peroxide when it breaks down inside the body. And life giving oxygen should pour into our bloodstream via the lungs.
I believe salt(s) and acid(s) to be involved in the generating of voltage, voltage that is needed to transform (electrolyte) regular oxygen into smaller and more reactive oxidants like hypochlorous acid. Yes the immune system generates MMS2

Other bleaches the immune system generates are hydrogen peroxide, superoxide and ozone:
www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2002/11/021115070456.htm
Another way of generating MMS2 (hypochlorous acid) is to add calsium hypochlorite to water. Calcium hypochlorite is used to keep swimming pools bug free. This is what got coined "MMS2" by Jim Humble.
I believe that if I make sure I get enough salt, acid and oxygen, then the immune system has what it needs to generate oxidants. In case it's not that simple I have sodium chlorite at hand
 
    
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                05 Mar 2020 07:47                #62772
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        I cultivate prickly pears (Opuntia ficus indica) on my farm. The fruits have more bioflavinoids than red wine and more vitamin C than lemons. In season, and for a month or two afterwards, we eat a lot of them. They fruit in the autumn and through the winter, just in time for seasonal flu and I think this is planned by God this way. The  pads are  edible, year round, as well, so if anyone lives in a hot climate and wants to know what to cultivate for antioxidants and bioflavinoids, I can definitely recommend Prickly Pears.    
    
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                06 Mar 2020 05:12                #62794
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        Fruits and vegetables that contain vit C are great for daily maintenance and will help prevent. But once you catch a serious infection anyway it may not be sufficient. If that would happen there is the option of therapeutic vit C. The difference between a few 100 milligrams dietary C per day, and 5-10-20+ GRAMS of ascorbic acid seems to be a life saver. In case people can't get their hands on sodium chlorite, ascorbic acid powder would be an alternative.
The liposomal form of vit C seems to be a very effective way of taking C.
In Chinese hospitals they now appear to be applying IV-C
    
    The liposomal form of vit C seems to be a very effective way of taking C.
In Chinese hospitals they now appear to be applying IV-C
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                06 Mar 2020 11:33                #62803
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        Hi Martin, I have just found a bucket of calcium hypochlorite (crystals) in my shed. What is the method for making MMS2 using calcium hypochlorite? And do you know of anyone who has done it? Thanks for your help.    
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                06 Mar 2020 18:16         -  06 Mar 2020 19:01        #62806
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        That's quite a coincidence  I hope your bucket of calcium hypochlorite is not too old and has been stored air tight and in a cool and dark place. And it should be around 65% or more.
 I hope your bucket of calcium hypochlorite is not too old and has been stored air tight and in a cool and dark place. And it should be around 65% or more.
I have used it myself and so have many others. Some people have reported bad side effects so one has to go slow and see if is tolerated. All these years I have seen only one person on this forum that has had a bad experience with MMS2. So I suspect that some people have some sort of stomach issue prior to taking MMS2.
Another precaution is that calcium hypochlorite (MMS2), and DMSO cannot be used together. MMS2 is not for amateurs, you need to know what your're doing. Other than that I have only good to say about MMS2.
Calcium hypochlorite is put into capsules and taken with plenty of water. But again go slow. If I were you I would have ordered Jim Humble's Health Recovery Guidebook . It's all written up in detail there better than I can boil it down here.
By the way did you buy this bucket or was it someone else? What has it been used for til now?
     I hope your bucket of calcium hypochlorite is not too old and has been stored air tight and in a cool and dark place. And it should be around 65% or more.
 I hope your bucket of calcium hypochlorite is not too old and has been stored air tight and in a cool and dark place. And it should be around 65% or more.I have used it myself and so have many others. Some people have reported bad side effects so one has to go slow and see if is tolerated. All these years I have seen only one person on this forum that has had a bad experience with MMS2. So I suspect that some people have some sort of stomach issue prior to taking MMS2.
Another precaution is that calcium hypochlorite (MMS2), and DMSO cannot be used together. MMS2 is not for amateurs, you need to know what your're doing. Other than that I have only good to say about MMS2.
Calcium hypochlorite is put into capsules and taken with plenty of water. But again go slow. If I were you I would have ordered Jim Humble's Health Recovery Guidebook . It's all written up in detail there better than I can boil it down here.
By the way did you buy this bucket or was it someone else? What has it been used for til now?
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                06 Mar 2020 22:47         -  06 Mar 2020 22:52        #62808
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        The hypochlorite is "new-old stock". I opened it and the internal plastic bag has decayed and the chemical itself is no good anymore. I acquired it in a deceased estate that I bought a number of years ago, so God only knows how old it really is. But now I know what to get, how do you make it up for MMS purposes, next time I'm in town I'll get some fresh stuff and make some up...
I'm talking about dosage and titration. Many years ago, I trained as a scientist at the University of Melbourne, and studied some chemistry, but I need a Method before I can safely proceed with this "Experiment!" I think I'll have to buy that book, but if you have any input, that would be appreciated.
Thanks for your help, I look forward to hearing from you soon...
    I'm talking about dosage and titration. Many years ago, I trained as a scientist at the University of Melbourne, and studied some chemistry, but I need a Method before I can safely proceed with this "Experiment!" I think I'll have to buy that book, but if you have any input, that would be appreciated.
Thanks for your help, I look forward to hearing from you soon...
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                07 Mar 2020 18:52                #62823
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        I would not throw it away. Wait til you are sure you can get a new bucket.  It could still work if you have nothing else one day. A sign of it still being OK would be a sharp chlorine smell. Does it say anything about the amount of chlorine?
Sodium chlorite also tears holes in plastic bags.
I would try and get some sodium chlorite from the website ClO2 posted earlier. Use calcium hypochlorite for certain protocols if needed or in emergencies if you got nothing else. MMS1 can be dosed more frequently than MMS2 and that is what you want in case of serious viral infections.
Without the book MMS is not of much help for beginners.
You could search for "DIY colloidal silver generator". I'm guessing same principle could be used for generating HOCL.
    Sodium chlorite also tears holes in plastic bags.
I would try and get some sodium chlorite from the website ClO2 posted earlier. Use calcium hypochlorite for certain protocols if needed or in emergencies if you got nothing else. MMS1 can be dosed more frequently than MMS2 and that is what you want in case of serious viral infections.
Without the book MMS is not of much help for beginners.
You could search for "DIY colloidal silver generator". I'm guessing same principle could be used for generating HOCL.
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                11 Mar 2020 01:09                #62886
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        Welcome to the group, you certainly belong here. How wonderful to have plenty of space to play with animals and horses!
I love all types of alternative medicine for our bodies.
            I love all types of alternative medicine for our bodies.
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