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Re: ulcerative colitis and MMS 26 Jan 2012 13:21 #10968

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Believer, there's a wonderful book out there that will also help - It's called "Breaking the Vicious Cycle" and it's about specific carbohydrates - and their place in colon health.
www.amazon.com/Breaking-Vicious-Cycle-Intestinal-Through/dp/0969276818/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1327583776&sr=8-1


Here's a webpage devoted to the diet -
www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/

I don't know if it has been translated into whatever is your primary language, but can hope so. Basically, the premise is that there are SOME carbohydrates that you will be able to eat - I was on this diet for some time and found it quite helpful. There is a lot of healing in it -- the book also gives you the biochemistry of why it works. Along with the MMS or CDS, I think you will be surprised.
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Re: ulcerative colitis and MMS 27 Jan 2012 09:29 #11017

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Thank you Pam for your advice.

I already have that book but have not read it yet. I received it while ago. I heard that this diet is very difficult and expensive to follow, what do you think? Anyhow I will read it because as you mentioned it would give you some knowledge about what foods and how they effect your body.

By the way my first lang is Persian. But I usually read things in Eng. I am currently living in Australia.

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Re: ulcerative colitis and MMS 27 Jan 2012 11:28 #11019

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Thanks for your concern
I didn't mean junk foods.....I completely agree with you in eating healthy . But the problem is, since I got this disease I cannot even enjoy some type of foods which are not considered junk, such as grains, beans, dairy products, raw vegetables, gluten.... the only unhealthy food I like to take is coffee with sugar, right now I dont drink coffee much because of its caffeine and sugar is considered as a poison for me. Another issue is as we all know even veg and fruits in the markets are not healthy because they all are contaminated with pesticides and other chemicals which they use to grow them faster. So in order to be healthy should we eat all organic, which most ppl cannot afford.

I know there are many people who have done this protocol and got remission or cure but with my condition which is sever I cannot believe I could get to that stage.
It's been now more than two weeks I am taking cds except a day or two and even though at the beginning I noticed a lot of improvement still there are some days that I see a lot of fresh blood.
Is there anyone here who have had this disease and finally got cure by mms? I need to know how they did go with it and what did they experience during the protocol. Is that normal some days after improvement of bowel condition, it aggravates?

These are all the questions that I appreciate anyone who care to answer.

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Re: ulcerative colitis and MMS 27 Jan 2012 12:17 #11026

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I drink decaf coffee and use 1/2 t-spoon xylitol as a sweetener. Processed grains are junk in the way that they sell them as breakfast cereals. TOO much sugar in those processed boxes. Too much sugar = fructose= uric acid. Not healthy at all. All the tv adds about how good and healthy they are is rubbish. Dairy. Cows milk today is manipulated/processed, its rubbish also.Research milk on thr internet. Research everything you want to learn about on the internet. Organic raw milk unprocessed has living bacteria and some say it is good to take but nature designed cows milk for baby calves. It has casien in it , for baby calves, not human. If we ate perfect food I think it would be a hard job to feed the world. But one should be aware of what foods we were desined to eat. Beans you say, I have been reading where beans are probably the one of the vegetable family we should not eat. Look it up on google. And as for organic vegetables that I see about most look as though they died on the way to market and too expensive. You need to be aware of what is nutritional out there for us and you can only try to eat as healthy as one can.
At the end of the day , you are what you eat.
Ps, I forgot to mention my friends father also ate the same wild pork and they both developed ulcerative colitis withen a week of each other.

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Re: ulcerative colitis and MMS 27 Jan 2012 13:56 #11036

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If nothing else, reading it will help you to understand some of the biology - it's not an easy diet, I agree (certainly not as easy as just buying what you like at the store and eating) - as an example, you would make a yoghurt that you eat a bit daily, but it has to "cook" for 24 hours, because it increases the probiotics, and removes the lactose - and lactose is a form of sugar that is very hard on those with various bowel problems - but the probiotics are very important - also, you will end up looking at a lot of labels on the foods you eat :) . That said, she is very clear as to why the diet works, and I did it for 6 months or so - a number of years ago.

If you like honey, (which is actually digested in a different part of the stomach than sugar), you will be pleased ;) It is one of the allowable carbs (not in great amounts) -

I think the biggest thing about diets and shifts in diets that make them "difficult" is that we have all gotten used to being able to prepare food quickly, usually it's pre-prepared, and we sort of fall into a "eat your favorite foods without thinking" stance - and this does require time and planning. Once you get used to it, it's OK, but the initial part (we are such creatures of habit! <G>) is more difficult.

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Thank you Pam for your advice.

I already have that book but have not read it yet. I received it while ago. I heard that this diet is very difficult and expensive to follow, what do you think? Anyhow I will read it because as you mentioned it would give you some knowledge about what foods and how they effect your body.

By the way my first lang is Persian. But I usually read things in Eng. I am currently living in Australia.

Gul

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Re: ulcerative colitis and MMS 08 Feb 2012 04:55 #11840

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I agree with you both, that's really true that ' we are what we eat'. I'v been reading a lot about milk and wheat, soy and some other grains and how they actually can affect the body and so on, for the last few years. I know how unhealthy they are. I have actually eliminated them all now for a while, ....we make homemade bread, but still I have issues when i take it. I also have problem when I take yoghurt even though I make it at home using milk keffir grains...I leave it to ferment for more than 48 hours and I then separate it from the whey.

Pam suggested to follow the diet in the book ' breaking the vicious cycle'. I took cds for a bout 3 weeks and it didn't put me in remission. I have to admit that cds wont work alone without following a strict diet. I read the book and now trying to follow the diet...but the problem is it has mentioned when the flare up is severe one should postpone eating even cooked fruits and vegetables for 3 months later when diarreaha is under control! I am wondering what I can eat for a few months until my intestine can handle such foods? The book doesn't mention what should we allow to eat for the first few months when flare up is so severe. Any idea plz let me know Pam, Woofy or anyone who knows. I started the diet today and I have only ate chicken...dont know what to eat for dinner....i had no breakfast caz didn't know what to eat.

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Re: ulcerative colitis and MMS 08 Feb 2012 07:26 #11850

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I beleive the majority of books written today after the the 1950s regarding health are GENERALLY written by people to sell books with a lot of their written material based on what they have read them selves in written form/book else where. There was a book called Health Via Food by William Howard Hay. He had a sanatorium in the States in the 1930s, If I remember. All his patients ailments were reversed by simply eating the right food. There are a lot of books out there suggesting various foods/diets and they are not worth a pinch of po.. I even see the TV adds and NUTRITIONISTS explaining the right food to eat. And boy oh boy have many of them got it wrong. I shudder when I hear some of their advise. Through misinformation people can easily be led up the garden path. The best way to learn nutrition is to research and research, and try to use some common sense.The Acid Alkaline Food List is a good place to start. This was posted by BILL. I read this a few minutes ago in a recent post so I am sure it can be found easily.

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Re: ulcerative colitis and MMS 08 Feb 2012 14:29 #11870

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Believer, in the book there is a list of foods that are allowable. Check out those foods.

Woofy, this diet was formulated by a doctor and the woman who wrote the book had a daughter that was a patient of the doctor. She cured her daughter with it - daughter had colitis, as I recall. In the process of curing the daughter, the mom went back to school and got a masters in bio-chemistry (if I'm remembering right - it was an advanced degree, and it's been 10 years since I read it) - specifically to research WHY the diet worked for this doctor's patients.

Most nutritionists today in the US are taught based on the prevailing food pyramid at the time put out by the FDA - That's a whole different thing. They have no real knowledge of physiology and how it affects handling of foods - so, in the case, say, of someone with gastric bypass, their recommendations are frequently not helpful.

We all have different bodies, different chemistries and physiologies. I don't think we can blanket recommend that the acid/alkaline issue will work for EVERYONE - maybe for many, but not for everyone - I think it's much more complex than that.

It's possible that the bacteria in the keifr is not the ones that are recommended in "Breaking the vicious cycle" - and yes, for many there are allergies to wheat, even if the bread is homemade.

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ulcerative colitis and MMS 12 Oct 2014 22:16 #47705

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Ulcerative colitis, Interstitial cystitis, sinusitis, bronchitis, colitis, acid reflux, any and all chronic disease is probably caused by bacteria/fungus/parasites....... clean out the gut heal the lining and after your healed I believe you could eat anything in moderation! To say your never ever gonna eat a pastry cookie or any other junk foods again is impossdible for almost anyone don't stress yourself like that the stress will only prevent you from getting better once your healed you would have to destroy all the good bacteria in your gut all over again to be in the situation of chronic disease again and obviously you know how to prevent that from happening again! Just take probiotics everyday for ever and stay away from antibiotic! A cookie didn't do all this damage alone it was a combination lifestyle that does the damage! And it doesn't take years to do damage it just takes to much antibiotics and the damage is done! Antibiotics is the worse thing anyone could use it destroys your immune system, destroys your good bacteria in your gut!

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