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High antioxidants may actually be BAD for stage 4 cancer - 15 Jun 2013 20:34 #33809

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Thanks Pam, I got you!

I thought so, that this is used for skin cancer.

The thing is, melanoma is only a skin cancer at the beginning. I think Mark in his testimonial video explains this very succinctly when he said that melanoma is a skin cancer that kind of has gone underground, then tries to grow everywhere. Thus, at the beginning, this BS, as well as other substances, will destroy the skin cancer, for example, I have seen hydrogen peroxide injections do that on surface skin melanoma on several occasions. Oncew the underground movement occurs, then we are dealing with a different animal.

I will check it out.

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High antioxidants may actually be BAD for stage 4 cancer - 15 Jun 2013 23:10 #33812

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Here's a post from AmandaMary on skin cancer.

for skin cancer, i also use black salve, we also make and supply this product. look on youtube for black salve there you can see the wonderful testimonials and results. For all different types of cancers i also recomend MSM, Immune boosting herbs and herbs for cancer, ingredients of which i have attached, please inform me if you wish me to supply any of these. Protocol 2000 plus, enema's/douche, baths, topical application etc, you need to saturate you body. My website is work in progress but feel free to visit www.mms.bg

here was the only place I could find it for sale:

bestonearthproducts.com/products.php?cat=8

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High antioxidants may actually be BAD for stage 4 cancer - 16 Jun 2013 00:57 #33814

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Yes- do check out the curedmycancer stuff, because he did not start with skin cancer, but was metastasized internal organs....

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High antioxidants may actually be BAD for stage 4 cancer - 16 Jun 2013 01:20 #33815

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You can buy the DVD and learn how to make black salve yourself.
I have heard that you can also take black salve internally.

www.oneanswertocancermovie.com/

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High antioxidants may actually be BAD for stage 4 cancer - 16 Jun 2013 01:31 #33816

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As it so happens I am a medical herbalist (yeah I know and I have cancer, big shock, who’d want to take MY advice now.)

Well if you’re still interested, when I trained, my big final assignment (we called it a thesis) was a study on the herbal treatment of skin cancer.

The black salve you and Pam are talking about is of course bloodroot (Sanguinaria canadensis). I studied it and have had personal experience, using it on my father. Dad was told he had to have surgery and possibly a prosthetic nose. Instead I treated him with a bloodroot paste. He healed, and died later of an unrelated matter at age 90.

I went on to guide many people. It is amazing. As Pam says, great along with your other protocols too. So many people just treated the ‘spot’ and didn’t look inward.

If you would like to pm me I would be happy to send you my study. It has before and after pics. For every statement of fact I wrote, I gave a scientific reference.


As you mentioned, I don’t know how it would affect stage 3, once it has traveled into the lymph…that’s where my experience fails….but I would use it if I had any sort of malignancy on my skin. It works on melanoma, BCC and SCC. I would not contemplate NOT using it.

If you google bloodroot you will find lots of information. We all know we can’t believe everything on the net, but from what I now know, I can see these stories are all true. There are no wild claims.

After much searching of scientific studies I found out that bloodroot kills cancerous cells by disabling the mitochondria. These cells then simply have no way of producing energy and they die.
I don’t know how to pm on this forum yet, so please let me know how if you’d like to read my thing which might add to the other good stuff Pam and others have suggested.

PS- About ME again (lol)…. To anyone who might be able to answer: Rough night last night, super bloated, which is very painful. It went down in the early morning. I thought I’d found the solution with acv instead of citric acid but not last night. I suppose I should make a whole new thread of this, but the reason I am mentioning it is I have a specific question:

Is it POSSIBLE, that the MMS is working so well that I am getting a die off symptom that is not nausea or diarrhea but this…this weird bloated-to-busting abdomen? Because it’s in my abdominal cavity where I have a tumor which is causing inflammation and fluid build up, which is uncomfortable anyway, but is it being worsened by the MMS process? I’m wondering, hoping that it could be the cancer cells are reacting. A herx reaction.

So…I’m wondering if anyone else on the forum, with abdominal tumor(s) of any ‘label’ has experienced this symptom while taking MMS.? Or if the moderators have some knowledge about this or can give it a guess?

BTW I am a slim person anyway, and lost weight unfortunately (not able to eat my usual robust amount). This is painful bloat, not fat, or overeating. I ate very little yesterday.

Today I have been afraid to take MMS…I need a rest from the pain. But I don’t want to stop! A dilemma.
I did not take any vitamin C yesterday.

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High antioxidants may actually be BAD for stage 4 cancer - 16 Jun 2013 06:09 #33820

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Me again...sorry I'm the needy newbie.
Just wanted to add that I ended up taking 1 drop 5 times today afterall. Feeling comfortable enough.
But I'm concerned that at such a low dose I won't be dealing to the cancer. I see some people take 80 drops a day!
Rev Colleen suggested CDS to me but honestly my energy is at such a low ebb (I have had one cup of miso soup today and it's 6pm in this neck of the world) I cant begin to cope with figuring out that method.

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High antioxidants may actually be BAD for stage 4 cancer - 16 Jun 2013 10:01 #33823

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Hi Elli

I have used the black salve for breast cancer as my tumour is very close under the skin. It did pull 3 masses out of me but did not touch the tumour. My tumour did increase in size from 17x12x10 to 17x12x20 which i find rather odd. My full . post on this can be read here so as not to repeat myself on this post.
www.g2cforum.org/index.php/list/cancers/21679-breast-cancer-stage-3-aggressive?start=27

With regards to your bloating although i am treating for breast cancer on a number of occasion i had bloating and what felt like a gas build up in my belly. Also recently i treated my neighbours cat that had been possible bitten on the flank and the low part of the leg was so swollen the cat could not walk. She had been on anti-biotic's for 4-5 days but the cat was deteriorating. I gave the cat a one drop dose at 1pm and then again at around 7:30pm that evening the cats own said the cat was squirming on the floor, growling with a very noticeable bloating to the stomach this went on for a while and then the cat settled and the tummy went back to normal. My feelings on this when she told me and from what i had experienced myself a couple of times is that it could be a gas build up and from die off. So maybe we are thinking on the same lines with regards to this?

Also i noticed when i take MMS and the rest, i can become very wired. I seem to be super sensitive to supplement. MMS can also make me very tired. This may well be because the body is in hyper drive healing mode.

I'm an energy therapist and have experienced a bit of well if your a healer ow can you be any good at healing if you have cancer. I say thank you for the experience and the opportunity for me to walk my talk. If i ran straight off to have all the conventional treatment then i would be going against everything i believe in and would feel there was nothing to live for. So for me this has been an experience of learning learning and learning but boy have i got so much more to give back now.

May strength be with you.

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High antioxidants may actually be BAD for stage 4 cancer - 16 Jun 2013 12:57 #33826

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Elli - CDS making is a breeze!

I can recommend one of the generating kits from wps4sale.com - there are 2, and I think the smaller travel kit is a good starting place - It's a matter of putting 8 oz of distilled water in a special type of jar (yes, the one they sell is the best), plopping in a votive candle holder, putting a measured amount of MMS and Citric acid into the candle holder, putting the lid back on and putting it in a cupboard for 12 hours. Pull it out, measure the ppms in the (now) 8 oz of CDS (you'll need to purchase some testing strips from the same place, and after you've done it for a while, you won't need to even measure, you'll know). take uot the votive candle holder and discard the residue with plenty of water and you're done. This will give you 240mL of 3000ppm CDS - which is, if you're doing protocol 1000, enough for 10 days.

Mods are (theoretically) not to recommend individual vendors on the forum, but I don't think any other vendor is making this little kit, so I can recommend it.

Doug's instructions are to use 18mL of both CA and MMS (he provides a syringe to do it) - I would
1. go to the farm and pet store and get an additinal syringe, so you only use one for MMS and one for CA. Mark one CA, and one MMS.
2. I've made it with 12mL MMS/CA before, but it had to sit a little longer than 12 hours to get to PPM.


To measure strength: Put 2 oz distilled water in a shot glass. Put 1mL CDS in the same shotglass. Give it a brief stir with a plastic spoon. Stick a testing strip in for 2 sec. pull out, count 10 sec., compare colors, the testing strip should read 50. That's 3000ppm If you're a little stronger, that's OK.

I would then stabilize it with 5mL of unactivated MMS.

Due to considerations, they have to warn you about not inhaling CDS - (all the negative testing has been done on inhaling, not ingesting) - don't let the gas mask stuff scare you. I've been making it for 2.5 years and never needed a gas mask, but then, I am careful not to put my face over it and take a deep breath!


Yes, the bloating can be die off - I don't know how aggressive your cancer is. I agree that such a low dose of MMS is not going to be as effective as a full dose. You can always supplement with baths, footbaths, enemas and douches - and also you can use MMS and DMSO to make a "wash" and apply it to the affected area wtih your hands.

The parasite kiddos start with 1 drop of activated MMS in an 8 oz baby bottle and drink 1 ounce an hour. They build slowly up until they get to their dose (by weight) - so it goes very slowly. Once they hit 16 drops, they add their ounce to an extra ounce of water. (it's one ounce of water per drop) - if they go to 24 drops, they add 2 oz of water to each oz dose, etc. So if you choose to stay with MMS, that's an option for you. Starting VERY low and going VERY slow.

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High antioxidants may actually be BAD for stage 4 cancer - 17 Jun 2013 05:44 #33849

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Thanks very much for your reply Utopia. I take on board your supportive comments. Also the fact that you felt bloated and tired at some point I find encouraging (lol what a thing to say to someone) as I’d prefer it to be the treatment than the cancer. Being in my abdomen it’s natural to wonder if cancerous greeblies are going berserk in there or if it’s just the MMS.

Today I did 1 drop doses then reduced to half for the last couple of doses because I could feel the pain of bloating building already. Sigh. I’m going to have to figure out the CDS.

I read your other thread. Very interesting. Thank you so much for sharing your protocols.

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