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does mms kill good bacteria? 16 Oct 2020 13:47 #66252

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if it doesn't how is that possible?

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does mms kill good bacteria? 16 Oct 2020 20:13 #66259

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The answer is no not at all. It dosen't interfere with the good bacteria at all. I have heard that since 2009 from many sources . chlorine dioxide seeks out harmful pathogens of all types but knows the difference . Unbelievable isn't it. I always said that it is a gift of God for the last days. More and more bacterias and viruses are said to be resistant to antibiotics. They just are no cures for many diseases including several VD's. But chlorine dioxide just seems to work very well. Except for a few funguses and molds which Jim Humble explains in his Recovery Guidebook to use Bentonite clay and there also how to use it there. His best book on how to use mms by far. Total explanations. What blessing that book is for mankind. So detailed and easy to understand. Answers most of the questions people ask on this web site about mms. A must for anyone wanting to use mms.
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does mms kill good bacteria? 17 Oct 2020 08:05 #66266

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The following is from page 67 in Andreas Kalcker's book Forbidden Health:

"The fascinating thing is that not only is chlorine dioxide selective, but it also reacts differently to each pathogen. The more acidic the bacteria are, the stronger the chemical oxidation reaction. The less acid they are, the weaker the oxidation. That is why it does not affect symbiotic bacteria as much, as they usually have a pH range closer to the body (hence, they are symbiotic)."
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does mms kill good bacteria? 27 Jul 2023 03:48 #79522

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At "curezone.org" the questions asked about MMS killing good bacteria. Here was his answer:

 Hello Pioneer,
"Jim Humble claims that chlorine dioxide doesn't destroy all bacteria. However, he has never been able to prove this, and all of my testing, and the testing done in industry, indicates that it kills all bacteria. The key is that you need a certain concentration of chlorine dioxide in contact with the bacteria for a certain amount of time."

"It is true that different strains of bacteria are killed off by different concentrations of chlorine dioxide, but that hardly makes it "selective."

Tom

The reason why I posted this, is because I did the 21 day protocol and now I take 6 drops nightly for maintenance. I had a very expensive test done for my intestinal tract about a month after the protocol because I was still having stomach issues and the results were shocking. It showed that my "commensal" gut bacteria was extremely low and my "bacterial phyla" was almost non existent. My Naturopathic Dr couldn't understand why these results were so negative. She was very concerned The worse part was, my "immune response" markers were as low as they could be!! That is NOT good. Our GI tract is our immune system and mine is very sick. I eat extremely healthy. I eat non gmo/organic food. I don't eat sugar or any kind of seed oils. I have always been super healthy. I exercise weekly. The only thing I can blame this on would be the MMS. I am also taking a probiotic. I need to do some major work on my gut to get it healthy again. I am going to stop the nightly maintenance. My Dr has prescribed a bunch of stuff for me to start taking.to heal my gut.

Even though they say the MMS does not affect the good bacteria, they don't really have any data to prove it. If they do, I need to see it. This problem with my gut is serious. I am basically without a strong immune system or gut bacteria. Anyway, I just thought I would let you all know and caution you not to continue on MMS long term until we have absolute proven data that MMS does not affect healthy gut bacteria. It's great for addressing all health problems that may arise but until we have a lots of proof, I would not recommend long term maintenance.

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does mms kill good bacteria? 27 Jul 2023 03:59 #79523

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This was my main concern before I started down this path. This answered my concern.

Here's a quote from Jim Humbler’s 2016 book, page 15.

How Does It Work

Oxidation
The tiny particles of the universe are held together by the electrons that surround them. Any action that results in the change of the electrons that hold matter together is considered oxidation. You may have thought that oxidation is somehow adding oxygen to what is being oxidized, but not so. Basically, oxidation either removes or changes the position of electrons that hold things together. This either completely destroys the substances or changes them into something else.

MMS and Oxidation
MMS1 (chlorine dioxide) destroys pathogens (disease causing microorganisms) not by using oxygen, but by oxidizing them. MMS1 draws away some of the electrons that hold the pathogens together, thus resulting in their destruction. MMS1 is also completely destroyed in the destructive process, leaving behind only a very minute amount of table salt (sodium chloride [NaCl]) and neutralized oxygen that simply washes out of the body. Various poisons created by the pathogens are also destroyed by the oxidation process. The fact is that MMS1 does not heal the body from sickness. As the oxidation process of killing the pathogen takes place, it is the body, freed from toxins, that heals the body. Beneficial bacteria are highly resistant to oxidation and thus are not harmed by chlorine dioxide.

Other Oxidizing Processes
Oxygen is the oxidizer that nature has designated for use in the human body because of its many important characteristics. Current oxygen therapies involve more than just breathing. In one type of oxygen therapy, the subject enters a pressurized hyperbaric chamber filled with pure oxygen. Pure oxygen under pressure is many times more effective than non-pressurized oxygen. This has many benefits and in some cases has worked miracles. Unfortunately, the increased pressure also multiplies the negative characteristics of oxygen, namely increasing the oxygen’s ability to oxidize (destroy) good cells as well as bad ones.
This treatment is also very expensive, and multiple treatments are usually required; therefore, the majority of mankind simply cannot afford the cost.

Two other very powerful oxidizers that are sometimes used in the body are hydrogen peroxide and ozone. While both of these have been and are used to help eradicate
disease, at the same time, they can damage the body when used improperly. Both are more powerful than oxygen or MMS1 (chlorine dioxide). Hydrogen peroxide and ozone can and do destroy many things including human body tissues.

Pathogens hide deep in body tissues. Because hydrogen peroxide and ozone, just like chlorine dioxide, are destroyed when they oxidize something, they are usually destroyed by oxidizing body tissues before they reach the pathogens hiding in the tissues. They can also be destroyed by poisons and impurities in the blood and tissues. Ozone and hydrogen peroxide may be useful sometimes but they should never be used by someone who is not highly trained in their use.

The oxidation potentials of these four oxidizers are given below. The strength of any particular oxidizer is measured in volts and as you can see, chlorine dioxide (MMS1) is the least strong of the four oxidizers. Because MMS1 is selective (oxidizing pathogens and not body tissues), it can be both more effective in oxidizing pathogens, as well as being safer than these other oxidizers.

Chlorine Dioxide - 0.95 volts
Oxygen - 1.30 volts
Hydrogen - Peroxide 1.80 volts
Ozone - 2.07 volts
 

CDS (Chlorine Dioxide Solution) – 0.95 volts 

Note: most vitamins and mineral supplements are antioxidant. So I take my vitamins and mineral supplement about an hour after using any MMS & or CDS. 
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does mms kill good bacteria? 27 Jul 2023 04:39 #79524

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Yes, I remember reading this in his book because when I first started, I was concerned about how the MMS would affect the beneficial bacteria in my gut. I was satisfied with Jim's answer but how many people take the test that I took, after the protocol, to see what's going on in their gut? I would have never known any of this if I hadn't taken this highly specialized test.. I am not saying that I know for sure it was caused by the MMS but it's awfully coincidental that I have no gut bacteria and my immune markers are shot after taking the protocol. I could be just that one person in a million that is affected differently with the MMS. Idk. There is no other reason for the negative test results other than something I have ingested that did the damage. I eat too healthy for it to be any foods that i may have eaten in the past couple months. I drink raw keifer and apple cider vinegar. I will stop the MMS and do what my Dr tells me to do. I will take the test again in a couple months and see what it shows.
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does mms kill good bacteria? 27 Jul 2023 06:26 #79525

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kittylover,

Did you take the test before you started used MMS or just after the protocol? You only mentioned taking the test after your MMS protocol. 

I'm not a doctor. Just paying attention to health matters over the years reveals a few culprits. Over use of antibiotics being one of the top reasons. Big Pharm drugs and vaccines aren't going to help me maintain a healthy microbiome (gut health). 

If we're following the standard Western diet we stopped eating real food decades ago.

I'm just waking up to the damage this stuff they call food can do to our second brain (the gut). I am taking steps to change that. 

Almost impossible for chronic diseases to exist in our bodies if we're metabolically healthy. That includes having a healthy mitochondria and a healthy microbiome.. 

All the best,
Jim
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does mms kill good bacteria? 27 Jul 2023 16:44 #79526

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Hi Jim,
Thanks for your reply.

No, I did not take the test before, that's why I don't know if it's the MMS or not. I have now quit taking my maintenance dose daily (6drops). I will retest in 3 months, after I start taking intense supplements to restore my gut bacteria and immune markers. If the test comes back healthy, then I will assume it was the MMS and not something else I had been eating or drinking.

I NEVER take antibiotics. I have colloidal silver and other natural remedies that I use for different issues that come up. I have never been vaccinated since I was a child (1950's) and I don't eat the typical western diet. That's all poison. You could call me a health nut and that's why my Dr was so surprised at the test results. The only thing that was different in my life, was the 21 day MMS protocol that I did.

Now, I will say this, because of all the chem trails that are being sprayed on us and all of the poison they are putting into our food and water, I wouldn't be surprised if my dilemma didn't come from eating something poisonous from the grocery store. Who knows these days. We know they are trying to depopulate the earth, and with the technology they have today, along with the billions of dollars they have to bribe companies, who knows what we are all eating and drinking, organic or not. If we all got tested, we may all have the same results, no gut bacteria and no immune markers. It's something to ponder.

Anyway, if my test results are bad again, after 3 months then I will know it wasn't the MMS and it's something in our air, food and water that's going to eventually kill us all. 95% of the population would never think to take this specialized test.. Who knows, maybe everyone is walking around with little gut bacteria and low immune markers. What a great way to kill us. Just weaken our immune system.

Didn't mean to get carried away with my rant but I truly do believe our air, food and water is contaminated. If they don't kill us with the jab, they have a million other ways they can destroy us without us even knowing about it.

The bible says that God will loose Satan in the last day to bring havoc on this earth. It will happen right before His second coming. The bible also says that satan will come to kill, steal and destroy. We are witnessing this now and it's only going to get worse.

OK I'm finished......lol
Thanks again for your response.
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does mms kill good bacteria? 27 Jul 2023 17:50 #79528

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We have two types of bacteria within us. Aerobic (oxygen breathing) and anaerobic (non-oxygen) breathing. Aerobic microbes in our guts, send out oxygenated signals, in a type of morse code, to the 200-900 bacterium/virus combination within each and every cell. A single cubic meter of air contains hundreds of millions of viruses and tens of millions of bacteria (microbes).

weather.com/health/news/2018-02-09-billions-viruses-surround-us-air

The bacteria in our guts are replenished daily, just by breathing, they wind up in our guts and lungs. Chlorine dioxide is an extremely weak oxidizer, the microbes in our guts give off much stronger oxygenated signaling compounds to the 200-900 bacterium/virus combination to each and every cell. Aerobic microbes (oxygen breathing) are not affected by a weak oxygen supplier such as Chlorine dioxide. Anaerobic bacteria may be affected only after a period of time, but they also are replenished daily.

What was the name of the highly specialized test? The microbiome is an extremely important, morphing organ of the body. It is like saying my doctor did a highly specialized test on me, and found I had no heart.
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