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Re: Protocol 1000 - is it allowed to drink 8 to 10 times every 1 to 2 hours? 10 Jun 2011 20:30 #3107

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Hi Michael

I hope you are fine and in good health.

Coming back to our e-mails # 2562 and 2564 of May 12 and May 13 I have the following questions regarding MMS2, soaking my fingers with MMS2 as well as spraying MMS1 with DMSO. As you will perhaps remember I have Panaritium (dactylitis) around the roots of 4 fingernails. I’m taking 10 -15 drops of MMS1 since April 12, 2011. After your e-mail of May 13 I’m treating them according to your instructions for nearly a month now with 1+2 and DMSO but I don’t see much improvement yet. This illness has probably become chronic and has attacked the finger bones (?). Of course I’ll keep going on, but to do this better I have some questions:

I take 3 activated drops of MMS1 8 to 10 times hourly (since June 6 even up to 10-12 times), normally without problem or only seldom a bit diarrhea. But taking MMS2 as well (only 2-3 times per day ¼ capsule after 2 to 4 hours), I often get diarrhea. So I’m not yet in a habit to take more. But I read that Bruce only takes ¼ capsules (4 times every two hours??).

Question 1: how long is MMS2 active in the body if I take it only every 2 – 4 hours? Is it better to take 1/5 or 1/6 capsule every 2 hours instead of ¼ capsule every 2 – 4 hours = 2 – 3 times a day?

Question 2: in case of diarrhea is it better to reduce the quantity of MMS1 drops or avoid MMS2 for some hours or only again next day?

Question 3: when soaking the fingers in an MMS2 solution, how long and how many times per day is it advisable? I did it once or twice for about 20 to 30 minutes in a rather warm solution of 1 capsule MMS2 in about 7 – 8 ounces of water, but it corroded my skin and nails slightly. Now I have stopped since two days, and I think I must reduce the time of soaking or dilute less MMS2. What is your advice? How long is such a solution lasting (stable)? Should it be renewed every day?

Question 4: is it a good idea to enhance this soaking protocol with DMSO? If yes, how many drops of DMSO do you suggest per ounce of MMS2-solution?

Question 5: I spray MMS1-solution on the fingers and rub it in shortly. Then I apply DMSO and rub it in again a few seconds, and then I spray again MMS1-solution. Afterwards I let the fingers dry. I do this twice, seldom 3 times per day. Is this enough?

Question 6: in the last two weeks I get cramps (spasms) in my shin-bones when asleep. This is usually a sign of lacking magnesium, but I take magnesium chloride daily and never had these cramps before. Does MMS1 – taken for a long time – demineralize the body or the bones = osteoporosis?

Question 7: what is a “bag protocol”? Is this something for my fingers?

Today I received a new supply of DMSO. Therefore I can now enhance MMS1 with DMSO. What else can I do to achieve a positive result??

By separate mail I will make a donation to thank you for your valuable help. Thank you very much for your answer.

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Rudolf
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Re: Protocol 1000 - is it allowed to drink 8 to 10 times every 1 to 2 hours? 11 Jun 2011 22:48 #3129

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Hi Rudolf,

I am working on my health too, things are getting better though with the Bag protocol and a rice diet I am using.

Thank you for updating us on your situation.

I can see you are being diligent with the protocols and so far it is not helped more than you had already mentioned previously. I went back over what you said before. I looked at one site that was discussing this and they said it could penetrate all the way to bone. They also suggested it was a staph type infection. If this is a type of staph then it either is, or is like, MRSA which is Staph that is antibiotic resistant.

Both MMSs will work on MRSA infections it is just a matter of getting enough of it to the site. I have a friend who had ankle surgery and it got MRSA infected. Oral doses of MMS1 helped a lot but there was difficulty because the blood circulation around the ankle is not very good. This is the same problem you are having with your fingers, circulation is not good at the extremities. At that time we did not know about MMS2 and the Bag protocol for MMS1 and the DMSO that all could have helped her and produced a cure I think if it had been done diligently.

The fact that you have been as diligent as you have and have not gotten relief indicates to me also that there is something more than just the Panaritium at work. All the MMS you have been taking is getting used up on something and the diarrhea that you experience when going to higher doses indicates you are killing off pathogens. I think there are systemic pathogens at work here, probably from the gastro-intestinal tract. There are literally pounds of microbes living in our guts and it is a fine balance keeping the flora beneficial rather than pathogenic. It seems to me you must be fighting off something more than just the infection in the fingers.

In addition, MRSA is something I know quite a bit about and if your finger infections are like that, then MRSA is ultimately a systemic problem also. You should read this book How to Stop MRSA available free here newmrsatreatment.com/ . Shannon Brown is the best expert on MRSA and the pHenomenal water and gel products he sells work just like all those testimonials on his mrsa30day.com site prove. His products are more expensive than MMS and I don’t even think they are available international yet, but the book will tell you how a lifestyle that generates lactic acid in your body tissues is at the root of MRSA susceptibility. Mainly you have to get sugars out of the diet. In fact I have a recommended diet that he put out somewhere here if you want it. You can learn a lot of self help techniques at his site that could make a difference for you, since it does appear there is a systemic pathogen problem in your body.

There is also more you can do with the MMSs because we are still learning all the ways they can be used. We don’t have experience with someone in your shoes, so there is room for you to do much experimentation and see what works in your case. On some of your questions, the best thing will be for you to experiment and see what works best, because all we can do is speculate till people go out and try it and report back.

I would also recommend using the DMSO with your oral MMS1 drop doses like Jim recommended recently in his Tech. Bulletin (genesis2forum.org/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=2&id=2998&Itemid=66). After you mix your MMS and citric acid and let it activate 20 seconds, then you add the same number of DMSO drops as you have MMS drops and let it activate for an additional 3 minutes, then add water or juice and drink. The DMSO causes better penetration we know and maybe it will get the MMS to the infection sites in your fingers.

Now for your questions:
Question 1: how long is MMS2 active in the body if I take it only every 2 – 4 hours? Is it better to take 1/5 or 1/6 capsule every 2 hours instead of ¼ capsule every 2 – 4 hours = 2 – 3 times a day?
Currently we think the MMS2 is active for 2 hours and so it is better to keep getting small doses every two hours to keep it available in your blood.

Question 2: in case of diarrhea is it better to reduce the quantity of MMS1 drops or avoid MMS2 for some hours or only again next day?
Right now there is no right answer to this about whether to reduce the MMS1 or 2, just try different things and see what works best for you.

Question 3: when soaking the fingers in an MMS2 solution, how long and how many times per day is it advisable? I did it once or twice for about 20 to 30 minutes in a rather warm solution of 1 capsule MMS2 in about 7 – 8 ounces of water, but it corroded my skin and nails slightly. Now I have stopped since two days, and I think I must reduce the time of soaking or dilute less MMS2. What is your advice? How long is such a solution lasting (stable)? Should it be renewed every day?
The MMS2 in water appears to be pretty stable. It will probably remain active for several days, try it and see what you think. It would be the same as far as how long, how many times a day, and how concentrated of a solution to use, just experiment and see what works best for you. I would think that 1/2 capsule in 1 cup of water would still be pretty strong. Here is the reported experience we have on MMS2 for skin conditions genesis2forum.org/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=8&id=3014&Itemid=66 .

Question 4: is it a good idea to enhance this soaking protocol with DMSO? If yes, how many drops of DMSO do you suggest per ounce of MMS2-solution?

I would try the DMSO in the MMS2 soaking treatments. I don’t know how much to say, just experiment. The DMSO does dissolve in water well. We asked Jim about using DMSO with MMS2 and his reply was that he has tried it and did not notice any bad effects, or any good effects, but he assumes it is beneficial (genesis2forum.org/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=39&id=2230&Itemid=66 ). I would agree, just have to try it.

Question 5: I spray MMS1-solution on the fingers and rub it in shortly. Then I apply DMSO and rub it in again a few seconds, and then I spray again MMS1-solution. Afterwards I let the fingers dry. I do this twice, seldom 3 times per day. Is this enough?
That sounds good, all I can say is to try doing it more and see if it helps. If you can get enough of the MMSs to penetrate those fingers, it should be able to cure the infections. It is all a matter of getting enough support to your immune system in those fingers.

Question 6: in the last two weeks I get cramps (spasms) in my shin-bones when asleep. This is usually a sign of lacking magnesium, but I take magnesium chloride daily and never had these cramps before. Does MMS1 – taken for a long time – demineralize the body or the bones = osteoporosis?
The MMS does not directly cause cramps or demineralize. It could be indirect because when you kill off pathogens, they have to be detoxed out of your system and that requires nutrients.
I have been taking MMS for a long time and expect I will be for the rest of my life. We have not had reports of cramping. I get that seasonally myself. It is very hard to absorb minerals from pills.
For me, the most convincing reason to believe Jim when he says MMS does not cause harms like this, is all his experience curing the poor in Africa, Mexico and elsewhere. Jim has said their diets are mainly corn meal mush. They do not have rich diets and they do not have money for antioxidants and supplements, and yet Jim can cure 97% of their diseases. They get strong and go back to work and they’re happy. If this is true, and I certainly believe it is, then all the fears of harm are unwarranted in my opinion.

Question 7: what is a “bag protocol”? Is this something for my fingers?
The Bag protocol is found here genesis2forum.org/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=28&id=3054&Itemid=66. If you can do it, I certainly recommend it. I think it gets MMS into your blood in a powerful way. Your hands will be in the bag so that could be very good also. It has made a huge difference for me. Once I got up to using a half teaspoon of activated MMS1 in the bag for 20 minutes, I had incredible reduction in pain and fatigue that I have not experienced in 15 years. My bowel movements which have been smelly for 15 years suddenly went to no offensive odor at all. I am on week 3 of doing these treatments 2-3 times a day. I use 1 teaspoon of MMS in my treatments.
You should start out slow with the dose like Jim recommends, especially since you are prone to diarrhea, like Jim was. If you can get to using high doses of MMS1 in the bag, it could make a big difference for you like it did for me.

Let me know if you have any further questions, and please do keep us updated. I believe you can cure this with the tools that you have if you just keep experimenting.

Best Wishes,

Michael

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Re: Protocol 1000 - is it allowed to drink 8 to 10 times every 1 to 2 hours? 12 Jun 2011 21:07 #3150

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Hi Michael

I am impressed of all the valuable time you spent answering my many questions. I have to study your detailed information first, but I want to thank you a thousand times.

I tried Shannon Brown’s website www.ewmrsatreatment.com but I did not get a connection. Perhaps something is wrong. Is it correct?? So if you have a special diet from him, I would appreciate it. See below if it is necessary.

Since 1-1-2000 my wife and I have a special diet: no meat, practically no milk products except non pasteurized butter and cream, sometimes an egg, very seldom some industrial food and seldom a bit sugar.

Instead we eat self milled cereals (Birchermüsli made of the whole corn– we have a corn mill at home), we mill the entire corn and bake our bread most of the time. Always organic quality.
We only use organic virgin salad oil of olives and sunflowers and non pasteurized butter and cream plus virgin coconut oil..
We eat much uncooked food in organic quality like apples, bananas, kiwi, different sorts of vegetables from above soil = salad, tomatoes, radish, cauliflower, fennel - or from below soil just as carrots, beetroot and so on), never peeled and walnuts or hazelnuts.

Besides we also eat cooked meals that we prepare ourselves (not industrially manufactured).
We do not smoke and don’t drink alcohol.

This is a short statement of our so called “full value nutrition” so that you can judge yourself if the missing diet program of www.ewmrsatreatment.com is useful for us. Please give me a short reply.

I am feeling absolutely well besides my finger problem.

I’m speechless about the detailed information you gave me again. I can only thank you and shall keep you informed how things develop.

Good health and best wishes
Rudolf

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Re: Protocol 1000 - is it allowed to drink 8 to 10 times every 1 to 2 hours? 13 Jun 2011 11:07 #3163

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Hi Rudolf,

It is a pleasure to work with you on this health condition since you are willing to try things and report back. It is an opportunity for all of us to learn.

I have posted Shannon’s book and diet on the forum here genesis2forum.org/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=38&id=3162&Itemid=66. If you hit the link in the prior post it should take you to Shannon's site. Here it is again newmrsatreatment.com/ . In the part you copied there is an "n" missing at the front; it should be www.newmrsatreatment.com . You can download his free book as a pdf or read it online. It just gives you an understanding of the causes of lactic acid build up in your tissues that makes one susceptible to Staph infections.

It has been a while since I looked at Shannon’s diet, so I do not know how it will apply to your situation. I don’t think you have a bad diet, but my diet was very good also and yet I believe I have been feeding the bad microbes in my intestines, which has caused major symptoms for me.

I know you say you are feeling pretty good, but I still think all the MMS you have been taking is going to fighting off something. Because that protocol 1000 will cure HIV, most diabetes and other bad conditions, and yet it is not having any effect on your Panaritium.

I should have mentioned earlier to the generally Jim recommends moving to protocol 2000 when protocol 1000 does not produce results. You are already moving in that direction by starting the MMS2. The idea is to increase your oral doses of MMS as much as you can and for 10-12 hours a day. I think you are already doing that but you are limited by diarrhea so you can’t take more orally. When you run into a limit like that, then you try to use the external methods of baths, bag protocol, protocol 3000 which is MMS sprayed on the skin and then DMSO put on top of it.

Let me know how it goes,

Michael

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Re: Protocol 1000 - is it allowed to drink 8 to 10 times every 1 to 2 hours? 13 Jun 2011 13:53 #3165

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Hi Michael

You are exceptional, you even work on Sundays and Pentecost! Thank you for your immediate reply. Now I have so many pages to study that I'm quite occupied for some time. English is not my mother tongue, therefore it is more difficult to memorize things.

You mentioned the correct address is newmrsatreatment.com., but in your previous e-mail you wrote ewmrsatreatment.com, perhaps the missing "n" is somewhere already in your documents.

Now I take protocol 1000 together with DMSO. Then I spray MMS1 with DMSO on my fingers, and I try to take 2-3 times 1/4 capsule of MMS2 - hopefully not getting diarrhea. For the moment I do not soak the fingers in MMS2 with DMSO and I'm waiting to do the bag protocol, because I'm curious if this treatment with DMSO alone will help. If not, I go a step or two further on the scale of treatments. I will keep you updated as soon as possible.

For the moment I can only thank you for all your unforgettable help. It is impressive how you help others with their problems whereas you need help yourself.

Congratulations and best wishes. God bless you.
Rudolf
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Re: Protocol 1000 - is it allowed to drink 8 to 10 times every 1 to 2 hours? 22 Sep 2011 18:43 #5591

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Hi Michael

How are you? It is really great what goes on in this forum and you and your team have such a great experience to help members.

PANARITIUM (Dactylitis)
Our last post was on 13th June 2011. I always hoped to be able to report you full success treating my chronic and very tenacious Panaritium (I have two fingers with Panaritium on each hand). But unfortunately this is not yet the case, although the four fingers got better but not yet fully healed. I promised to keep you updated, so here in “short” is what I did in the meantime:

I took protocol 1000 since May 2011 (before May 2011 I took MMS1 according to the old protocol for about one year). After our last post I added 3 drops of DMSO to the 3 activated drops of MMS1 8-9 times hourly. But this DMSO did not really improve the healing process. As Jim writes there is not always a benefit from taking DMSO orally, but it could help. I took protocol 1000 with DMSO for 3 weeks. But my scalp was itching unbearably and my breath and transpiration smelled like garlic and more and more I got diarrhea. Thus I stopped taking DMSO orally together with MMS1.

To enhance the power of MMS1 (without DMSO) I started taking daily baths with 35 activated drops of MMS1 and drinking protocol 1000 without DMSO 6 to 8 times (sometimes less when I got diarrhea). Thanks to the bath protocol the itching of the scalp stopped (what a wonderful feeling!!) and as a bonus new fine hair started growing on the bold spot of my head. In the bath tub I keep my head as deep and as long as possible under water – just nose and face above the waterline and I massage the scalp intensively. I did the bath protocol already 33 times (not every day, because the fingers did not visibly improve when I bathed every day, but I thought bathing enhances protocol 1000, and I don’t get diarrhea from bathing). But in the middle of July I had to stop taking protocol 1000 because my intestines revolted against it with heavy diarrhea. I don’t think this was Herxheimer reaction. My body just wanted a time out after more than one year of taking MMS1.

Instead of protocol 1000 I started with protocol 4000 (6 capsules size 0 of MMS2 every two hours), so far with no diarrhea!! I do protocol 4000 now for 8 weeks. I think protocol 4000 helps my situation better than protocol 1000. I do not get diarrhea and the four fingers are less swollen. But the – mostly - light inflammations still come up alternately from time to time. Not all four fingers are inflamed at the same time, but usually there are one to two fingers slightly inflamed. Such a painful inflammation takes 2 – 3 days before receding. Very seldom all four fingers are “well”, but only for a few days.

Trying an even stronger treatment I swallowed in the last three weeks up to 7 capsules MMS2 together with a tibetian remedy (PADMA 28) to enhance the bad blood circulation in my mostly cold fingers. And two weeks ago in addition I started drinking 3 activated drops of MMS1 5 to 6 times during the day (as in protocol 1000, however not quite regularly every hour, but just when I had time and not causing diarrhea).

Since May 2011 I spray MMS1 with DMSO on the fingers or on the whole back of the hands once, twice or three times daily. I no longer bath the fingers in a MMS2 solution as I did before. I have the impression that the very warm finger baths promoted the inflammations and the nails grew a bit thin and weak.

This is briefly my situation now:

I daily take 6-7 capsules of MMS2 every two hours according to protocol 4000 (sometimes it varies from 1 ¾ to 2 ¼ hours. Question: Is this tolerance o.k.?),
I spray my fingers once, mostly twice and sometimes three times daily with MMS1 and DMSO, and I try to enhance MMS2 by taking orally 3 activated drops of MMS1 5 to 6 times most days. Question: Are these drops futile if not taken regularly? I think they still enhance the power of MMS2 as long as I don’t get diarrhea.

After such a long period I wonder if I’m doing it right. I’ll go on with this treatment hoping to achieve full healing some day in the near future. I just hope it isn’t MRSA!!!! Thank you for the detailed information about this terrible illness. Luckily I don’t have the symptoms as described in the downloaded information. Does MMS1 or 2 heal MRSA too?

PS: the spray is a perfect deodorant for armpits and feet (even “smelly” shoes!). One must pay attention not to spray on underwear or clothes because it bleaches immediately.

PS: a few days ago I made another donation.

Thank you very much for your time and attention studying my report.

Best wishes and good health to you too.

Rudolf
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Re: Protocol 1000 - is it allowed to drink 8 to 10 times every 1 to 2 hours? 23 Sep 2011 05:42 #5616

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Hi Rudolf,

I am making progress with my own health just like you. We have to be persistent and keep trying things till we find what works. I think the MMS, DMSO and diet have all been making a big difference for me.

It sounds to me like you are doing a wonderful job of being persistent and figuring out what works for you. I think your story illustrates how everyone’s body is different and unique. That is great the MMS2 is working so well for you.

Since my digestive tract has started to heal up I am also running into more problems with diarrhea on oral doses like you. Strict hourly doses will run into diarrhea pretty quickly for me. Some people need the strict hourly dosing for healing, and others can do quite well not being so strict. I think you have the right idea of watching what happens in your own body. I believe it is the same whether it is MMS1 or 2, Jim has the optimal times worked out for what worked on most people but your own situation may vary from the general rule. Varying by a quarter hour on the protocol 4000 probably should not be a big problem, at least not that I have heard.

I do believe that our bodies benefit from every dose of either MMS1 or 2. I think it is a boost to the immune system to get even a single dose of either one, so I don’t think any benefits are negated by failing to follow an exact schedule. I would keep taking the sporadic doses of MMS1 with the MMS2; it is more support for your system.

Jim does say many times to keep following a protocol till you are well. I believe he mentioned some people had to stay on protocol 1000 for a year to cure diabetes. So I think persistence does eventually pay off, and you need to be persistent with a protocol that you sense is right for your body, which I think you are doing well.

At this moment I cannot think of anything to suggest. It seems to me you are doing just what you need to and hopefully persistence will pay off over time. This is what I am doing myself. I just keep persisting, progress is slow, but every so often I realize there is definite progress and that keeps me going.

Thank you very much for the detailed reporting Rudolf, this helps other people see what needs to be done with a hard to cure problem like this. I think it is a great example of persistence, self monitoring and being your own doctor making the most of the tools at hand.

To fully restored health for both of us,

Michael

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Re: Protocol 1000 - is it allowed to drink 8 to 10 times every 1 to 2 hours? 23 Sep 2011 19:22 #5648

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Hi Michael

Many thanks for your prompt reply. I’m really happy that you are making progress with your own health problem. Yes we have to be persistent and have to be monitoring ourselves what were the reasons for diarrhea and what is the best protocol for the body. I have a long list where I put in every day what and when and how much I took of MMS2 or MMS1. I do this already since May 2011. This helps me to be my own doctor.

I’m also glad that you are convinced what I’m doing is good and you cannot make other suggestions.

I’ll keep doing “my protocols” as consequently as possible and hope to be able to report you full success over time.

Hoping that your persistence will pay off for you as well I wish you good healing and thank you once more for all your valuable help (for me and for all the other members of this wonderful forum).

Best wishes

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