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We now have a new folder in the main forum index entitled "On Founding and Running a Church." Bruce created this folder so that those of us working on starting new divisions of the Genesis II Church have a place to put the things we are learning.

I know I am learning a great deal the hard way working with the team establishing a Tanzania division. David, Zac, Dr. Ron and I all have things we can share that will help others in following this path. I will work to keep this information organized and useful for those who need help. I plan to also gather all Jim's writings on this subject and put them here.

So anyone who feels they have learned something in this area or have advice that could be useful for those starting churches, please feel welcome to post it in this folder.

Bishop Humble said in his Open Letter to those interested in the Church,

I guarantee that within a couple of years Ministers of Health from our Church will be the most respected ministers in the world.

After having read Jim's new book and transcripts from one of his courses, I now believe what he says is entirely possible.

The new book is a comprehensive guide to using MMS1 and MMS2 to cure virtually all diseases. Jim has the protocols all worked out, we need only to implement them against diseases. David Kiango in Tanzania has witnessed the cures with his own eyes and knows what MMS can do in his country. He came here looking for know how so he could get a Church started there. I am sure there are many others like him out there, knowing what MMS can do and wanting to contribute what they can to the cause.

Bishop Humble also said in that letter that he wants the Church to "grow at a break neck speed." In the new book he explains many important concepts about starting a church, but many details still need to be filled in. This folder will help us to gather than info and make it available to the many other individuals and teams who are wanting and working to get churches started in their locales.

May this Church of doing Good Deeds and always doing What is Right spread and fill the whole earth with Health & Healing!

Thought this is useful information to be added to this Church Starting Folder.

""Now let me introduce myself to you once again.

I am BISHOP JAMES V HUMBLE of the Genesis II Church of Health and Healing.

I started the Genesis II Church of Health and Healing for the purpose of health and healing. It is legally formed. I was a Bishop first and then I created the Church. I started a few years ago as a Minister and eventually was consecrated as a Bishop in a lineage of Bishops leading back to Christ.

This church I have formed is not a spiritual church, it is a church of Health and Healing for Mankind. That’s what we are doing now and that is what we will be doing

Healing

That is a legitimate activity for a church. Our ministers
heal as ministers should -- at no cost. For free. They depend upon donations
to continue their Ministry. We don’t try to teach religious
truths.

We teach healing using our cleansing solution -- the solution that the
FDA seeks to remove from the market. And we teach truths related to spiritual
and physical healing and personal
integrity.

We heal 98% of the diseases of mankind. Again, the evidence is on the Internet, and Bishop Jim (that’s me) has often been in Africa, healing diseases there. Most recently, in Africa, I treated 800 HIV/AIDS cases successfully. You might know that there are no tests to prove that HIV is cured because antibodies for the disease will always be present and antibodies are what they test for. However, what I did prove was that all of their symptoms were gone and they were back to work. Forty cases of cancer were gone, 50 cases of numb legs and feet were gone, 5 heart diseases were gone, a dozen cases of malaria that previously wouldn’t go away were now gone, Hepatitus C symptoms were gone, and all these cases were verified by the local hospital. And of course, there were several dozen other symptoms caused by HIV that were gone as well.

Please join us and help with this important work! See the links at the bottom of this page.

I made complete records, and I have 750 phone numbers of those cured. I can make some or all of these phone numbers available to anyone wishing to verify the actual cures of these people. They all have phones. They are in Malawi. Most of them speak a little English. Hospitals won’t give out data, but most of the people speak enough to say how they are feeling. You can call them if you want, but you will need to come here.

Now you can be protected against forced vaccination of yourself and your children, and against forced insurance. That will include dozens of other suppressions such as dangerous health-destroying, altered foods that the government and companies such as Monsanto are trying to force onto us. We will have health food stores in our churches that are not restricted by Codex Alimentarious.

To join, please see the links at the bottom of this page.

To belong to the Genesis 2 Church:

All you have to do is believe in GOOD DEEDS, HEALING, AND ALWAYS DOING WHAT IS RIGHT. The Genesis 2 Church will stand between those who want to kill us and the people. As time goes by, it will protect us from gigantic oil spills done on purpose, terrorist acts like diseases created in laboratories, vaccinations that destroy the health of children and adults, chemical trails in the sky, altered foods of all kinds, laws against home schooling of children, and the US government that confiscates 5 billion dollars’ worth of private property each year with no chance of its recovery (See the Civil Forfeiture Act of 2000, HR1658) AND OF COURSE, dozens of other evils too numerous to mention here.

Down through the thousands of years, churches have continually claimed that they are working to save mankind. But we are the first church that can in fact actually heal thousands of people and thousands of diseases. We prove it daily. If you are sick, let us heal you for free.

Here's how it might go:

Genesis II Minister: Would
you like to be free of your (cancer, malaria, TB, HIV)?

Ill Person: Yes, I would. I’m
tired of this pain and disability.

Genesis II Minister: What
would it be worth to you, to be free of it, to be healed?

Ill
Person: In terms of money? A million
dollars!

Genesis II Minister:
(grins) But could you pay a million dollars for your
healing?

Ill Person: Oh. Well, no, but
I could pay you fifty dollars and I’d be glad to do that if you actually do
heal me so I can put my life back together.

Genesis II Minister: OK, then
would you be willing to donate $50 to the Genesis II Church after you’ve been
really healed?

Ill Person: Yes, I would, if
my symptoms are gone and I feel good and I can go back to
work.

Genesis II Minister: Right.
Let’s agree then: I’ll heal you and you donate $50 to our Church after you’re
healed.

Ill Person: Yes. It’s a deal.

But most important is that you join our church, the Genesis 2 Church of Health and Healing.

If you join our church, you will receive our protection and our beliefs that you must not be vaccinated and all the other benefits of our Church.

We train a new class of Ministers of Health every 60 days here in the Dominican Republic or you can choose to take our DVD ministers training course and work at home. People who take our training become Ministers of Health. They minister health to the world. Our ministers are the most unusual people that the world has ever seen. They leave here with the ability to heal more than 95% of the ills of mankind. The day will come that a Minister of Health will command a great deal more respect than a doctor and soon.

The DVD ministers training course is a home study course and we will make sure that you are fully trained before you receive your certificate. We do this by our unique training and testing plan. When you receive our test, we will know by your answers if you really know the data. If not, we will continue to train you until you do know it.You can’t fail because we will keep training you until you succeed.

(See bottom of page for links)

Fifty percent of all the net income of the Genesis 2 Church is put into a protection fund to hire lawyers and other people to protect our members. We expect to have a really large fund for this purpose and all of the church's money of the church is accounted for. The church is run on a completely transparent basis with financial reports to our members. When our protection fund is large, governments will not be able to interfere in the rights of our people, because we will have the lawyers and other people to insure our rights.

Our Minister of HealthTraining Class

The next training course starts on the 20th of September, and the training course after that will be on the 25th of October. The cost of the first week of training is $1000, which includes room and board. (If you don't have the money and you need a discount in order to come, we will make sure you can afford it. Talk to us. You will be surprised.)

The second week of training includes 3 days in the local villages or at a clinic on the Haitian border and this training includes your Doctor of MMS certificate (see below). The cost is $500 for the second week which includes room and board. If you spend at least 3 days helping the people of the villages (Mark will be with) you will also receive a certificate of Doctor of MMS if you pass the MMS training course test. You have unlimited time to pass the test. But you must know the data in order to pass the test.

CERTIFICATES: These are the certificates that you will receive for completing the training given here:

1. Certificate of Completion of the course.

2. Certificate of Minister of Health you can use Rev. in front of your name legally

3. Certificate of Membership in the Church

4. Certificate of Authorization to open your own Chapter of the Church

5. Church Plastic ID Card

6. Those completing the second week of at least 3 days ministering to the local people will Receive a Doctor of MMS Certificate and you can legally use Doctor in front of your name or Doctor of MMS after your name. Also you can use Rev. Dr. in front of your name.

You must also past the questionnaire for MMS training.

DVD Minister of Health

Training Course

The DVD Minister of Health training course includes all of the above certificates when completed. The cost of the course is $350 plus. It includes transcripts of one complete training course, and complete DVDs. However, at this time, all Dr. of

MMS certificates will be issued only to those who complete the 3 days of treating local villagers. The cost is ½ price for those who are taking or have taken the DVD course which is $350. It should be done here in the DR, but could also be done in other parts of the world where you may live. To qualify, it must be a third world country.

Prices PRICES:

DR Training week one

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$1,000

DR Training Week two includes DR.MMS Cert.

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$500

DVD complete MMS Training (from two seminars) -- you get all certificates except Doctor (for which you must come to DR and treat villagers in a third world country) -- $350

Genesis 2 Church Membership with ID card

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$20

Links

To come to the one or two week training course in the Dominican Republic, please email This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. or This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

Or you can call Mark Grenon at 1-809439 3698 (country code required from the US)

For details on the training course, please go to www.mmstrainingcourse.com

To join our church, please call Mark at the above phone
number or email him at This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

Jim Humble’s book and DVD -- www.miraclemineral.org

If you would like to speak to Jim Humble, please call Mark Grenon at the above number and ask for Jim’s phone number. It’s

OK.""

Source: genesis2church.com/2010/08/30/warning-fda-approved-drugs-cause-death/

More info:

mmstrainingcourse.com/Contact_Info.html

Hi Michael,

great idea to start this New Church Starting Folder.

This is exactly what I am planing to do, start a new Chapter in Malaysia.
I have no idea where to start and how to announce a new Chapter here.

This is a great issue and I think it has to be done right from the start to be successful, and to prevent usual hassles which come up with an operation like this.
Especially I am a foreigner here and operating in a Muslim country.

• Does anyone have experience to set up a new Chapter in a Muslim country ?

I would really appreciate a step by step instruction on "how to set up a new Chapter of Genesis II Church" so that I do not miss anything.
If I make only a small mistake here I am gone...................

Hope that someone find the time to holding my hand's during the set up period and help me that everything goes smooth

Some more questions:

• How to recruit new members ?
• Only trough the head quarters ?
• Can I myself sign up new members or have they go trough the internet and do it themselves ?
• Can I provide them membership ID cards ?

Here are many peoples which have no glue about internet at all !!!!

Thanks to everyone here in advance for your help

Love and peace

Peter

Hi Peter.

Greetings.

I am in a semi Muslim country in Tanzania, our island of Zanzibar is practically 95% Islam, can tell you it will be tough promoting anything under the label of any church whether religious or not, the word church or mission is not really encouraging Muslim members to embrace it with open arms.

Would say it is non starter in a Muslim country.

Starting a church you basically have to do the Genesis 2 Church of Health and Healing Seminar, even on the DVD as you know, get your Reverend certificate of Minister of Health which allows you to conduct all business affairs of the Chapter to which you are assigned.

You are authorized to teach and administer all of the Sacraments, cleansing waters, and other healing methods of the Church, according to the teachings, rules and laws of healing of the Genesis 2 Church of Health and Healing.

You may announce the Church in your counry by simply making an announcement in the newspaper of the Churches presence, but you should not register it.

Yes you may recruit new members yourself directly and membership cards are usually issued through HQ upon request even without completion of the course/seminar, you would have to coordinate with HQ I presume.....

Thanks,

PS- Have also been told by another member that even the logo of the Church is not very multicultural with the Americas on it, should really have a logo of all the continents unless the product is being branded for the Americas, interesting to see how does the church make headway in Africa and other places such as Asia where large populations are Muslims and they are the exact people in need of help most......

Hi ZnZMagic,

thank you very much for your very detailed answers and the work you put in this forum, I can see you all over the place.

So it means, after I am a "Minister of Health" I just announce ONCE in any local newspaper the presents of my Church, is that correct so ?
Have a good connection to a Chinese newspaper here which will support me for sure.

I agree with you about the non multicultural logo, when I saw it, I did not like it at all, because of the presence of the American continent only.
The world has more to offer as America...............

Here the peoples are not very friendly to the Americans at all.
The American yacht's cruising here are afraid to put their flag up

Luckily not all Americans so bad, see Jim Humble and his team !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Maybe this logo will be changed soon, hopefully.
I am sure you have a good connection to the HQ to push this issue a bit.

Do you think it would be possible to use our own logos ?

I agree also what you say about the Muslims, luckily here are living about 10 million Chinese peoples, which are the peoples I am working at this moment, as a spiritual healer, very well.

I am looking forward for a BIG step to make this world a better place

Warmest regards

Peter

Yes an announcement to the public in general in your local national newspaper so that the authorities also have a chance to see it, extra announcements could go up where your chapter meets members....

I presume sooner or later HQ will correct the logo, otherwise probably most of us will do it ourselves, I believe they encourage you to use the logo and have the number of your chapter next to it.

Thanks......

Hi Hi ZnZMagic,,

thanks a lot for your reply, I really appreciate that

Peter

Pleasure, once you have set up your certificates at your place of meeting for example and made a public announcement in your national newspaper, you could go further and use flyers in your neighborhood to spread the word that you heal free of charge, I think letting your close community know you heal would not cause any concern to FDA or any other parties, suggest to keep it under the radar I guess, but that depends in where you are, probably out there in Asia most things still go..... not like in strict Europe or USA/Canada I guess...

Thanks.....

Hi ZnZMagic,
Yeah,under the radar and grass-root is the way to start.
I think I will not get troubles here so long I do not try to convert in a religious way.
FREE healing should be accepted from everyone I suppose.
So long I had no problems and I hope this will stay like this

thanks
Peter