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Hey Am on MMS am not taking meds. But I can feel how MMS is working on me. whether it works on HIV i dont know. But MMS treated my kidneys inflammation and psoriasis at least. MMS makes me sleep less but better, i concentrate better, am happier in general.

Together with MMS I take really high doses of garlic ginger different oils lemon turmeric etc. There is a recipe on Facebook: check UMLINGO. Its just a mixture of boosters - not much magic. I think its v important to supply or even oversupply your body with GOOD stuff. Of course, make sure it is all really organic. Otherwise there is no point.

Jim in his book doesnt say that MMS2 will produce negative results for 100 per cent. You might stay positive for v long time but what he says is that cd4 should tell you whether you are doing better or not (not the VL, VL is not an indication, there is a guy that been on tv he never had a virus but he had VL - bizarre!!) it is better to trust CD4 count but not straight away after the protocol, cuz yes then you wont see great results.

Another thing, if your tests come back bad and disappointing, and you decide to get back on meds, i advice seeing you your results yourself. I know few people who were not allowed to see their results. A friend of mine from the UK had to get a lawyer to get his results and what he found that he has tested negative three times and he has been put on meds without knowing the results..

good luck and keep us updated:)

Hi Roze....

I was waiting for someone else to respond to his post. My concern is that he is getting tested while on the protocol, which Jim and David and everyone I have talked to has warned against. There will be no good results during the protocol. You have to wait, suggested at least 3 months AFTER doing the protocol to get lab work done. Otherwise, your blood will show a really high spike in VL. He is saying that his last test showed a VL or 1,200,000!! WOW! That can't be living HIV. He would be dead most likely with a viral load of an infectious virus as understood by main stream medicine. I am surprised that his physician didn't admit him into the hospital with lab results like that!!

So, it's really of no use, and actually counter productive, to get lab work done too soon, esp. while on MMS1. He will get discouraged and go back on the ARVs and feel that MMS doesn't work. Too bad!

BTW, I finished 4 weeks of p1000 today...beginning maintenance doses and will continue those through the new year. I am still on ARVs...not sure when I will quit them. I am wondering how long it would take to clear out the toxins from the ARVs once I stop them, doing maintenance doses. Does anyone have any idea? Thanks, Remember to love yourself.

Hey Terry!
Unfortunately I can't tell much about the medication. But what I can tell is that after the first time I did the protocol I went to see a doctor after one month. I finished the protocol and for one month I've been working out a lot (swimming) eating well and taking chinese herbs that claim to clear blood. Funny feeling occurred after taking those herbs. I'd feel very cold and with no energy but would not have a fever. Anyway, then did the tests. CD4 went up and apparently docs decided not to do a VL that time .

Just done the protocol for the second time. No more chills just good mood and great feeling inside. Loads of energy and desire.

Regarding high number of the VL you mentioned,Terry, I don't think this is extremely super high. My doc told me they have seen trillions she told me it really varies from person to person. I started with 80 only and rose to 10 000. That was before all the MMS discovery.

Terry in another post you mentioned u got very ill after quitting meds for the first time, could you tell us what happened?
Double check what jim says in his latest book on ARVs I think he mentions that its the toxicity that's killing the virus there is no other 'job' they can do. Its a chemo and this is how chemo works it kills everything and there is only a question what chemo will kill first cancer or the patient. But double check on that. He wrote great deal on hiv and meds in his latest book.

Hi Roze,

Thanks. I have Jim's latest book and will read the section on ARVs again. Don't know why I was thinking that the MMS would neutralize the toxicity but the ARVs would still work. Like I said in another post....must be my denial.

When I got sick in 2009, not on ARVs for 18 months at that point, my VL was 250,000 and the doctors almost crapped their pants. A tremendous amount of DRAMA from all of them! Never seen the likes of. Obviously it almost scared me to death.

Here is what happened. Stopped the drugs in the summer of 2007 after my ID doc gave up his practice and I got a new doctor, who I didn't really care for. She was stubborn and didn't want to discuss anything other than taking the meds. I felt great until Dec. of 2008, at which time, I began getting headaches. They continuously got more severe, accompanied by dizziness and eventually vomiting a lot. Couldn't keep anything down. After 7 or 8 days of being bedridden with those symptoms, I called an ambulance and was admitted to the hospital for 10 days.

The docs, including my original ID physician, came in to treat me. They did two cat scans, an MRI, and tried to perform a spinal tap, which was unsuccessful. My brain was so swollen that they couldn't get any spinal fluid out to test for what they thought was Toxoplasmosis. I was told that the only way to diagnose Toxoplasmosis was to do a spinal tap OR a brain biopsy...which neither they nor I wanted to do.

So, they did another cat scan, this one on my stomach, and discovered what they determined to be damage in my gut from previous episode of Toxoplasmosis. I had never been diagnosed with Toxo. I believe that they just basically made that diagnosis because they didn't know how to treat my condition, which they were adamant was caused by my not taking the ARVs.

I was told that if I didn't go back on the ARVs, there was no use in trying to treat the 'condition' because it would just come back. Toxoplasmosis, according to their knowledge, or lack thereof, never leaves the body and cannot be cured. It lies dormant like shingles and flares up if one's immune system is compromised, as it is with HIV.

So, scared that I would die as they told me that if I didn't get their recommended treatment, I should check out of the hospital and go to hospice to die. Can you believe that? Whatever happened to the Hippocratic Oath? They definitely can not call themselves healers anymore. They seem to disregard the psychosomatic
effect on health all together. I know that they were just trying to scare me into going back on their poisons. Well it worked.

I went back on the ARVs, Isentress and Trizivir...along with about 13 other drugs, including a malarial drug called Clindamyacin, a very toxic antibiotic. Most of the other ones were to protect my body from that one. I was also put on steroids and a prescription to help with the nausea. It basically was chemo, as are the ARVs. So, for about 9 months, which also included being on Coumadin because I got pulmonary embolism from being in the hospital on my back for 10 days, I was taking a lot of toxic poisons. It was a very difficult time in my life. That entire year sucked!

I healed completely as far as I can tell, other than still having HIV. VL is undetectable, CD4 has gone up to the mid 400's but is currently 275 with last test in October-before I began the p1000.

The only issues that I have been dealing with are adverse reactions to the ARVs. Mostly stomach problems (swollen spleen, severe bloating, constipation), muscle loss.

I am thinking that I am going to have to go off the ARVs now if not soon. They continue to poison me and are doing nothing. I was basically continuing them because I was resisting having to explain to my doctor and go through all that DRAMA again. It's painful, but I do realize that it is my decision. Hopefully he will be in agreement to order lab work for me occasionally, if nothing else. At least until the lab results look good enough to convince him that MMS and other things that I am doing are working.

Sorry for the long note. Appreciate your asking and for what it's worth, hope it will help somehow with others. Dance well!

In response to Terry, a VL of 1.2 Million is high but not billions either...when people are first infected with HIV it is normal for the VL to skyrocket, into millions but doctors say not to worry too much because it falls just as quickly and settles down....for me at first,it hit over 2million but within 6 months it settled down to about 20 000 and stayed there for almost 4 years...then it went up again and that time when it hit over a million i started the meds.... It was not an accurate thing for you to say 1.2 million, that cant be live hiv or he would be dead... Im quite sure it is live ( but damaged i hope) HIV.... Im quite alive . Im more tired than when i was on medication though,i just. Hope it really is a sign of healing. Yesterday i started maintenance dosing 6 drops once a day "... Do you consider that being on the protocol because you mentioned waiting at least 3 months after the protocol to get tests done...jim recommends staying on maintenance indefinately basically....so when am i supposed to get good reslts according to your thoughts about getting tested while taking mms if im spposed to take it forever.?

Hi...Sorry if I spoke unknowingly. I am really surprised to hear that VL can go that high. Might be the difference between doctors or something. The doctors in the hospital acted as though 250,000 was extremely high. I am glad that you are alive.

As for me, I did the protocol 1000 (3 drops every hour for 8, sometimes 9 or 10 hours a day, but mostly just 8 hours, + occasional baths with MMS1 and DMSO) for 4 weeks. I also added DMSO to my oral doses the last week. After that, I began the maintenance doses of 6 drops once a day.

Jim suggests that everyone do maintenance doses, if you are over 60, once a day, under 60 once or twice a week...and/or when needed...just to keep your immune system at it's peak...regardless of what illness you had. David has been mentoring me through the protocol and he suggested that I do 4-5 weeks of the protocol (just to be sure) and then a week of maintenance doses...then when needed.

He also told me that when the MMS pushes the virus out of the organs and lymph nodes, places where it is hiding, it goes into the blood stream where it is destroyed by the MMS. Jim says in his book that the virus will try to reproduce so that it why an 8 hour regiment is needed. Of course, you know all of this.

So, now I am finished with the p1000 and doing daily maintenance doses. I will probably continue with that for a while. Not sure how long. I am still taking the ARVs so I am doing the maintenance doses to help detox those poisons from my system. David is telling me that MMS is neutralizing the effectiveness of the ARVs, so it's really useless to stay on them. Jim has said that most of the people that he personally treated for HIV stayed on the drugs and healed anyway. So, we will see. Thanks for clarifying and I apologize for speaking in error. I meant for my comment to be more of a question as I couldn't believe that someone would not be really sick with a VL in the millions.

As for your questions about when you should see good results with lab work if you are still taking MMS, I am probably not the one to comment. It seems that some say that results show improvement within 3 months but not before, although some say that people are testing negative in a less amount of time. Depends on many variables, it seems. I am waiting 3 months as David suggested to me and then will see what the lab work looks like. I haven't told my doctor that I was doing the MMS. I am just hoping as you are for good lab work when I see him in February and tell him that I am not going to take the ARVs any longer. Cheers.

Thanks, no apologies required...i just felt a need to respond. My only issue with waiting 3 months for doing more labs is I feel I need closer more frequent monitoring because i abruptly stopped all meds when i started mms 6 weeks ago.... I m excited with upcoming plans and ive never been really sick and id hate to fall sick and miss upcoming trips...florida for a week next month and scuba diving trip to the dutch antilles in february, first time travelling that far and doing something so exciting...id hate to have to cancel everything by becoming sick suddenly when i have been functioning perfectly in my 6 years of having hiv....keep us posted and ill do the same, thanks for sharing? Just curious by the way, are you in USA? Im in alberta canada...

I think if you take MMS with you on your trip you wont become sick

Hey there. Yeah, I do understand. I guess I was just trying to point out that any lab work done during the protocol or before around 3 months would probably disappoint anyone looking for a low VL. It seems that some people do have a rise in CD4 counts during the protocol and continuing afterwards.

I have been doing the daily 6 drops all at once and I am finding them to be more powerful than doing 3 at a time for 8 hours. I have been slightly dizzy at times doing the maintenance dosage. Even 12-15 hours afterwards. I also sense a 'tightness' in my head. Hard to explain but it is a similar feeling that I had in 2009 when my Encephalitis set in. So, I'm walking on eggshells today. Also dealing with some stress from an incident this weekend that is out of my control.

I have found all along that MMS makes me hungry. The Black Seed oil is also doing that as it really gets my gall bladder pumping fluids. So, the nausea could be from hunger. An apple helps with that somewhat. So far, it's manageable. I can happily report that after trying various remedies over the years, including an anti-fungal from the OMD, that MMS is clearing up the nail fungus on my feet. It's going to be a long process but it is working.

Your trips sound great! Enjoy! I am in Florida, BTW.