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Hi Mystic Love,

The herx that Pam is referring to may actually be a true herx or it may be that your body doesn't tolerate the sodium chlorite which hasn't been fully activated in the traditional MMS method too well. Intolerance to raw unactivated sodium chlorite can feel like a herx reaction.

Those of us who used to try to get to 15 drops of MMS activated with lemon juice twice a day pretty much all had "herx reactions", especially those of us who may have been low on HCl within our stomachs. For some reason though, when Protocol 1000 came and we were spreading our doses out over an 8 hour day, which is supposed to be more effective at killing the pathogens within our bodies, the "herx" became less. So were we actually experiencing "herx" reactions or were we getting too much unactivated MMS into our stomachs all at once and that's what was making us have nausea and diarrhea?

Then when CDS came out, "herx" reactions were reduced even more. Why? I think it was because the CDS doesn't have ANY unactivated MMS in it at all.

Now there is CDH which Jim Humble recently introduced and has stated that for many, it is easier on the stomach than traditional MMS. Kerri Rivera has basically said the same thing in her book. Here's what Kerri says in her new book: (note that when Kerri writes "CD" it's the same as MMS)

Many families have also reported that they were able to increase their
child’s dose without producing a Herxheimer reaction, in contrast to classic
CD. Older children and severely affected children have benefitted as well
from the CDH preparation; you can read more about that on page 221.
Currently, this new method is being used by a relatively small group of families
(around 70 as of November, 2013). Many of them are reporting that CDH
continues to produce results for their children on the spectrum, and they are
seeing even better things than before.

CDH is about 5 times more activated per drop than MMS activated the traditional way and so therefore has about 5 times more available CLO2 per drop than traditional MMS. CLO2 is what has always been considered to be what does the pathogen killing in the body. Since CDH has 5 times the CLO2 as traditional MMS it should be creating more "herx" reactions than traditional MMS does because it should be killing more in the body - but the "herx" reactions are less - not more.

So what's going on? The only thing that makes sense is that what is causing the "herx" reactions in many cases is not the large amount of pathogens being killed and the inability to eliminate them quick enough, but that people are intolerant of unactivated sodium chlorite. The higher the dose, the more you get and the more nauseated you feel.

I have known of a lot more people having negative reactions with MMS than with CDH. I was a part of the same forum that Pam was, where we both saw mothers increasing the doses of their children from 2 to 3 times that of MMS activated in the traditional way. One of the things that the moms were so happy about with CDH was that it reduced the nausea in their children. They were trying to increase the dose using MMS in the traditional way to a certain level and their children were becoming nauseated and throwing up. With CDH though, almost all of them were able to increase and reach their target dose, and many were able to double and triple their children's dosages without having any nausea.

By the way, many of them were dosing at about 100ml a day and using CDH in enemas and colonics too. That's 100 drops of pre-activated MMS in the CDH a day! Like 10 drops an hour, 10 hours a day! (Every ml of CDH contains 1 pre-activated drop of MMS)

There were a few, a very small percentage that may have had problems with CDH, but it's possible that those children may have been having true herx reactions because like I said, CDH is almost 5 times more potent than traditional MMS.

I hope that clears things up a bit about the nausea that you and so many other people may be feeling. It may not be a herx reaction at all.

May you be well,
Scott

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Scott said:

Intolerance to raw unactivated sodium chlorite can feel like a herx reaction.

Scott, I agree with you 100% !!!

Thanks for saying this and now perhaps more people will try CDH.

When you think about it, CDH is MMS activated for a longer period of time.

JB13 wrote:

Scott said:

When you think about it, CDH is MMS activated for a longer period of time.

and fully contained so ClO2 does not escape.

I found Scott's post this morning one of the most informative posts since I have been back.
Thank you Scott (and JB) for making things clear for us.
Now I have to try drops of MMSU just to experience it....to compare nausea between CA HCl and MMSU



I was treating a paraplegic a few years ago who either misunderstood or refused my direction/s and took MMS drops unactivated.
I do not recall any experiences of nausea, she was very ill otherwise.
I believe MMS I gave her or she did unactivated did help her.

Truthquester,

I will not attempt to mix this product, where can I buy CDH? I think I will try this as well. Do I add the DMSO with this product as well?

Mystic Love

Hi Scott,

Could you please list the things I need to buy, and how to mix? I will still do the hourly dose with this new recommendation. I currently still douche and take the MMS bath. Please let me know if now I should go about this a little different.

Thanks
Mystic Love

ML, Scott lives at the other end of the Earth and is sleeping soundly right now, probably. When he arises from his beauty sleep, I am sure he will promptly answer your questions!

While you are waiting, you can watch this short YouTube CDH How-to video:

Hi Mystic Love,

I'll post the instructions for how to make CDH below and as far as I know, there are no suppliers currently making and shipping CDH. It is very very easy to make though which is one of the reasons why the families of autistic children like it so much.

Also, I just read in Kerri's new book that for a douche solution for bladder infection she recommends:

10 drops CD (activated MMS) three times the first day, and then once every
day thereafter, for 30 days.

Keep in mind that the above is for a bladder infection.

Also since CDH contains a lot more CLO2 than MMS does, instead of doing 1ml of CDH for each drop of MMS as we normally do to convert a protocol to CDH usage, I would start off using 1/4 the of the amount of CDH in the douche bag; so 2.5ml of CDH instead of 10ml. If there are no problems with the 2.5ml, then increase the next time by 1 ml to 3.5ml and so on, until you find the amount that feels right for you. The reason for using less and gradually increasing is because of the more sensitive mucous membrane that the solution will be coming in contact with.

I know from personal experience that holding a solution of 1ml of CDH mixed in 30ml of water in my mouth can cause a puckering sensation because of the more delicate mucous membrane of the mouth (JB13 has mentioned this too). Therefore it's best to start slowly and gradually increase the amount you use.

By the way, I brush my teeth, gargle and swish twice a day with 3ml of CDH mixed in 90ml of water. I've been doing that for about 2 months now and there haven't been any problems at all.

Regarding using CDH in the bath: you can just use the same amount of ml of CDH as you currently use in drops of MMS. This will put about 5 times more CLO2 into the water and should therefore be more effective.

If you are going to use CDH in the bath, I'd highly recommend making a large batch of CDH such as a liter at a time instead of making a small one since you'll be using large amounts in the tub. Also, making a large amount is as easy as making a small amount of CDH.

Here's how to do it:







Here is a table from Kerri's new book on how to make CDH with various bottle sizes:



CDH is really best made with 4% HCl and some of the approved suppliers now provide it and I know the following supplier also provides kits which include the bottles and pretty much everything else you need to make CDH (I prefer glass bottles though):

www.wps4sale.com/CategoryProductList.jsp?cat=CDH+Generation

Well that should get you started. Let us know if you have any other questions.

May you be well,
Scott

“Discontent is the first necessity of progress.”
― Thomas A. Edison

Thanks JB..

Scott thank you, I will purchase these items and let you once I start on the CDH.

Mystic Love