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Hyponatremia 10 Jul 2022 16:31 #76142

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Hello, my husband began the MMS protocol in mid-May as a treatment for stage 4 cancer, while also doing a modified form of the Gerson diet--no salt, no meat, juices, cooked potatoe and leek soup for high potassium--and also doing hyperthermia treatments (sweating) with mistletoe twice a week. I wanted to let this community know that on the 7th hyperthermia treatment, he had a seizure that lasted 50 seconds. We chalked that up to the hyperthermia and did not go to the emergency room despite urging from the doctor to do so. Obviously that put an end to hyperthermia. About a month later, he began to have localized seizures that looked like small strokes in one arm, then in the face, then going down the leg. Upon a trip to the emergency room, it was found that he was in a state of hyponatremia: his blood sodium level was only 121, while 125 is considered a critical level and the norm is 135 to 145. During this time he had been doing protocol 1000 + with about 1 drop--due to nausea he couldn't really do more than 1 drop.

He has stopped the MMS protocol during recovery, we've added salt back to the diet, and the condition is clearing up. I have not read the more technical posts about how MMS acts in the body and gets secreted out, which I will do, but I am curious about the role that MMS could have played alongside low sodium intake (and 6 days of  increased sweating spread over three weeks) in creating that condition. (And by the way, since there is a small "spot" in the brain, the doctors want him to take keppra, which he is not doing. He's taking magnesium, melatonin at night, camomile tea, and avoiding stress to calm down the brain. So far so good.)

Best wishes and thank you to Jim Humble for his good work.

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Hyponatremia 11 Jul 2022 08:04 #76148

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I would think that the MMS would have nothing to do with the problem.

It sounds like the very low (/no) salt diet with hyperthermia treatments would be the culprit.

If you are going to be sweating a lot, for whatever reason, you NEED salt to replace what you lose.
I hope no one actually told you to do that.

The McDougall dietary lifestyle suggests low salt, not no salt.
(I think it is the preferable eating method for human animals)
One thing you also want to remove is OILS. They are cancer causing and cancer promoting.

I don't know anything about hyperthermia treatments (sweating) with mistletoe.
Generally speaking, that would be a form of detoxification, which is generally good.
I don't know what it would do specifically for cancer.

It's unfortunate, imo, that he is unable to do more than 1 drop of MMS.
I assume you are using HCl as the activator and not citric acid.
You might try CDS. (I've switched to 24,000 ppm CDS)

My brother had late stage metastatic prostate cancer, so I put him on
an accelerated protocol because he stupidly waited too long to do it and
only agreed once he realized it was either that or death.
Unfortunately, he resisted treatment and was very negative about using
MMS, which made it not work as well as it would have. Even then, he was
doing well enough that it freaked his doctors and nurses out.
More unfortunately, he basically committed suicide by "refusing to eat."
Toward the end when we "yelled at him" and he "realized" he was dying of starvation
while the MMS was "curing him", he half-assed tried to eat more.
Then he died of "starvation" probably about a few months or less short of being "cured".
(there is a lot of psychology involved in these things, both positive and negative)

Anyway, I got him up to 5 drops with DMSO within a few weeks, and had
started him on Protocol 2000 (for 'advanced disease'). It was really working well.
(as one would and should expect)

I know everyone is different, and for some reason some people can't seem
to take higher dosages. This is generally probably okay, except when you
are in a "time crunch". (imo) But, other than trying CDS, which theoretically
would MAYBE not cause nausea, I don't know what to suggest otherwise.

MMS hot baths would probably be a really good idea, though, as well.
At least 3 a day. With as high MMS amounts as possible, as discussed in
Jim Humble's "MMS Health Recovery Guidebook". Probably with DMSO
added if you can. (with as clean of water as you can use, which you might
have limited access to --- you can't really take baths in STEAM Distilled
store-bought water --- we have well water, so no chlorine or flouride,
which is pretty clean water)

See my website, link below.

I hope you are able to achieve Health Restoration soon.
 
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You will find info there regarding Jim Humble's "MMS Health Recovery Guidebook".

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Hyponatremia 04 Sep 2022 14:37 #76680

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Hi Bill, Thank you for your reply. When doing the protocol I described, I did ask the doctor about the diet plus treatment plus MMS and he thought it should be no problem. Obviously that was not the case. I think he had worked with other people doing the Gerson diet and they did not experience hyponatremia. However, we have since spoken with another doctor very familiar with Gerson who said this was the fifth time he had heard of people having this problem while on the Gerson diet. To be fair, we did not do the full Gerson protocol, but a no salt diet CAN lead to hyponatremia.

We have city water so unfortunately the MMS baths don't seem like a healthy idea. Thank you for your encouragement.

Best wishes.

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Hyponatremia 09 Sep 2022 08:50 #76727

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Generally you do not want to stop the MMS Protocols.
They are most likely what is going to cause Health Restoration, pretty much above all else.
Other than a possible Herxheimer Reaction by detoxing too quickly, using MMS should have no
bad side effects most / all of the time.

I hope you checked out my website regarding the McVegan Dietary Protocol.
Dr. McDougall has cured MANY, MANY people of cancers and all kinds of other illnesses
and diseases by his diet alone. Which is why I include it as part of my "Clean Health Protocol (CHP)".

I strongly encourage you to use the protocols in Jim Humble's "MMS Health Recovery Guidebook".
Protocol 1000, and then 1000+, and then probably 2000. (for advanced illness and disease)

Note that you can also do foot baths, which are better than nothing.
If you have to, you can get a fairly cheap water filter, like the Brita Pitchers,
as long as they remove Chlorine and Fluoride.
Or plastic jugs of STEAM Distilled water.
You can heat the water on the stove.
You could use those 5 gallon "paint" buckets you can get at Ace Hardware or Lowes, etc.,
as the foot bath container. (or almost any HARD plastic foot bath)
And you don't have to use that much water. Up to the ankles is probably fine.
Our feet (bottoms) are a good conductor of "medicinals" and also extractor of toxins.

Check out this post: mmsforum.io/goto/welcome/36976-diagnosed-with-prostate-cancer#76237
 
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