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31 Dec 2019 09:23 #62029
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can mms help increase hcl in your stomach?
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01 Feb 2020 19:13 - 01 Feb 2020 19:19 #62297
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That is a good question, and warrants some discussion, these are only my thoughts. We all differ physiologically, each of us producing different amounts of stomach acids. Many people who have low HCL levels within their stomachs are more prone to bacterial infections and illness. The HCL in our stomachs is our first line of defense, to kill any harmful bacteria that we may have consumed.
According to "Healthline" these factors may cause low stomach acid; eating too quickly, high sugar intake, zinc deficiency, age, antacid medication and prescription drugs, food sensitivities or allergies, infection or chronic illness.
www.healthline.com/health/how-to-increase-stomach-acid
We all produce HCL in our stomachs thoughout the day however, HCL levels are ramped up and increase as a psysiological reaction, towards eating.
Once we see or chew food, the vagus nerve stimulates the parietal cells, which begin the process of increasing HCL levels in our gut.
It appears that just drinking water does not stimulate increased HCL production, only to small negligible levels. We can never be certain that sodium chlorite dissolved in water will not stimulate increased HCL production, however it appears as "no" to me, although I may be wrong.
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teachmephysiology.com/gastrointestinal-system/stomach/acid-production/
According to Jim Humble's experiments normal levels of HCL and other acids within the stomach, are not enough to cause activation, to produce CLO2, in any significant amounts.
In fact according to Jim Humble even when he increased stomach acid levels to 3 times of what we would normally find; there was no increase in CLO2 production.
Quote from Jim Humble concerning sodium chlorite when first ingested.
"First, it goes down into the stomach. There are dozens of research papers that state that when it comes in contact with strong stomach acids it immediately breaks down into oxygen. However, they don’t describe the tests used to prove this hypothesis. I tested stomach acids in a glass and never had this result. I even tried tripling the strength of the acid in the glass to three times the acid that would normally be found in the stomach, and it never immediately broke down the sodium chlorite. In fact, it didn’t increase the speed of the production of chlorine dioxide beyond approximately 1/ 100 of a milligram per hour— in other words, it essentially didn’t increase it at all. Of course, all that can be created when the sodium chlorite does break down is chlorine dioxide and sodium (an insignificant amount)."
Humble, Jim. The Miracle Mineral Solution of the 21st Century PART 1 (Kindle Locations 606-608). Gamas. Kindle Edition.
These experiments he conducted were in vitro (test tube) rather than in vivo (in the body) so results may be entirely different.
Jim Humbles team that was hiking through the jungle exerting energy, possibly very hungry, thinking of food, it appears that may have increased HCL production to something beyond a person that is sedentary and not thinking of food. There might have been other physiological effects, that these men might have been under, that activated the sodium chlorite, into an effective amount of chlorine dioxide. This is a simple hypothesis, it may be true or false.
A person who is suffering from infection or chronic illness, is possibly not thinking of food therefore a lower HCL production; once again only a hypothesis.
In response to your question, speaking for myself, probably "no".
According to "Healthline" these factors may cause low stomach acid; eating too quickly, high sugar intake, zinc deficiency, age, antacid medication and prescription drugs, food sensitivities or allergies, infection or chronic illness.
www.healthline.com/health/how-to-increase-stomach-acid
We all produce HCL in our stomachs thoughout the day however, HCL levels are ramped up and increase as a psysiological reaction, towards eating.
Once we see or chew food, the vagus nerve stimulates the parietal cells, which begin the process of increasing HCL levels in our gut.
It appears that just drinking water does not stimulate increased HCL production, only to small negligible levels. We can never be certain that sodium chlorite dissolved in water will not stimulate increased HCL production, however it appears as "no" to me, although I may be wrong.
Paragraph 8
teachmephysiology.com/gastrointestinal-system/stomach/acid-production/
According to Jim Humble's experiments normal levels of HCL and other acids within the stomach, are not enough to cause activation, to produce CLO2, in any significant amounts.
In fact according to Jim Humble even when he increased stomach acid levels to 3 times of what we would normally find; there was no increase in CLO2 production.
Quote from Jim Humble concerning sodium chlorite when first ingested.
"First, it goes down into the stomach. There are dozens of research papers that state that when it comes in contact with strong stomach acids it immediately breaks down into oxygen. However, they don’t describe the tests used to prove this hypothesis. I tested stomach acids in a glass and never had this result. I even tried tripling the strength of the acid in the glass to three times the acid that would normally be found in the stomach, and it never immediately broke down the sodium chlorite. In fact, it didn’t increase the speed of the production of chlorine dioxide beyond approximately 1/ 100 of a milligram per hour— in other words, it essentially didn’t increase it at all. Of course, all that can be created when the sodium chlorite does break down is chlorine dioxide and sodium (an insignificant amount)."
Humble, Jim. The Miracle Mineral Solution of the 21st Century PART 1 (Kindle Locations 606-608). Gamas. Kindle Edition.
These experiments he conducted were in vitro (test tube) rather than in vivo (in the body) so results may be entirely different.
Jim Humbles team that was hiking through the jungle exerting energy, possibly very hungry, thinking of food, it appears that may have increased HCL production to something beyond a person that is sedentary and not thinking of food. There might have been other physiological effects, that these men might have been under, that activated the sodium chlorite, into an effective amount of chlorine dioxide. This is a simple hypothesis, it may be true or false.
A person who is suffering from infection or chronic illness, is possibly not thinking of food therefore a lower HCL production; once again only a hypothesis.
In response to your question, speaking for myself, probably "no".
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02 Feb 2020 06:18 #62300
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thanks so much for your response.
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04 Feb 2020 22:50 #62348
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Thank you for your input BobJ. I wish there was more discussion of this topic also. As CLO2 has stated, JH proponent of MMS1, Andreas CDS and we also have CDH option. All used successfully various ways. I use CDS for topical and tooth application and MMS1 internally in the past. I posted my testimonial here years ago. I read what BobJ posted by JH above. If MMS1 is only activated 10% outside body the stomach HCL must further activate it. The thing I wonder about, is that MMS1 is taken away from food ingestion so maybe not much HCL produced at that time to activate the rest of the sodium chlorite. And we have truthquester with his long term ingestion of sodium chlorite only.I like the idea of CDH for all day water bottle to sip from for continuous supply but we know the shelf life is shorter. I do not know if my own HCL production is adequate or not but maybe CDH is a nice middle ground. I guess I will have to try CDH myself. I am aware of the comparable amounts for different CD producing solutions, thanks to the great info at misinformation.org. I just would like to be able to suggest the easiest but still effective way for most people to try this MMS stuff. And I like the low and slow approach throughout the full day. Protocol 1000 and others definitely doable but very laborious. That discourages many from trying I think. But again every individual can vary. JH has the most experience though.Thanks for all the great discussions here!
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05 Feb 2020 01:47 #62349
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oops spell check changed the website I referred to. Should be mmsinfo.org
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