MMS vs CDS vs CDH

With so much conflicting information, it's hard to decide what I should really be doing.
I have trouble taking the MMS doses made from Citric Acid because of the taste.
- but then I saw a video about CDS made from the MMS gases, and it was mentioned that the taste is much more tolerable this way, however, I haven't bought the supplies needed to create the CDS so I haven't tried this yet.
- and then I saw another video talking about using HCl instead of Citric Acid and that it tastes better
- and then I've been reading about something called CDH... I'm not really clear on what this is and how it's different.
- I've also read about adding Sweet Leaf Stevia drops to help with the taste - is this a good idea or does it matter?
I currently do not have any health issues, but my goal is to hopefully understand this info enough that I can share with friends and family that I want to be able to help and of course I am looking for the easiest option to make that also doesn't taste terrible... I have purchased the HCl but I haven't tried it yet.

I have gone to many websites, watched a ton of videos and I bought Jim's book - Master Mineral Solution of the 3rd Millennium (2011)... but the book doesn't mention too much about HCl or CDS and CDH.

I have found a great source at mmsinfo.org/ , but this topic is still so confusing to me.

Can someone please explain or direct me to a tool that will explain this to me so I can finally wrap my brain around it?

Thank you,
Dee Dee Byrd

Hi DDB.

Yes, the MMS world is getting more complex and it will take some time to understand it all for people new to MMS.

Jim Humble's latest book Health Recover Guide covers MMS1 very well, but intentionally leaves out CDS and CDH to keep confusion to a minimum. He may write a book about CDS and CDH at a later time.

The inventor of CDS, Andreas Kalcker , has written a book on CDS but it is only in Spanish.

I will write a short description comparing MMS1, CDS and CDH and post it on MMSinfo.org. You can contact me through the "Ask a Question" form at MMSinfo.org

So are you the administrator of the MMSinfo.org website?
I love all of the printable PDFs. So much great information in one spot. It's very helpful.

I notice in your signature a website you have listed - CDHinfo.org but it says File Not Found. Is this one that's getting updated? Or just an old website that is no longer online?

I think someone need to be infected with "catalogitis" and start a wiki page before is too late and a lot of info is here and there in a pandemoniun of domains.

MMSwiki.is exists but needs major updating which will happen once the book is finally finished.

Yes, Scott's website CDHinfo.org seems to be gone.

And, yes, guilty as charged, I am responsible for mmsinfo.org/

PDF files are great to archive information. I wanted everything on one page. Simple.

CLO2 wrote: Yes, Scott's website CDHinfo.org seems to be gone.

Although... thanks to your signature... I have discovered scsinfo.org/ which looks to be another very useful forum. Thanks!

Ray's forum is undergoing some major rework and may not work properly.

Another website to visit is Michael Harrah's michaelharrah.us/ It has not been updated in a while, but you will still find lots of useful info there. He used to frequent this forum often.

Hi ddb22222,
Maybe the following will help clarify the MMS World of Products:

4 Ways of Creating and Ingesting MMS/CLO2 in a Nutshell

First we must start off with a standardized drop measurement so we can compare apples to apples when looking at the following 4 ways of making and ingesting MMS/CLO2.

In the past Jim Humble decided that he would use a dropper that produced 24 drops per ml. That being the case, 1/24th of a ml (1 drop) of MMS (22.4% Sodium Chlorite) will have the potential to produce 6.7mg of CLO2 (Chlorine Dioxide).

Following are the different methods that have been developed and used to produce CLO2 from MMS for the purpose of ingestion.

To make the following methods easier to understand and compare, only 1 drop of MMS is discussed within each method. In practice however, normally more than 1 drop is used.

Method #1 - Stabilized Oxygen - Let’s say 1 drop of MMS NOT activated and added to 100ml of water:
(This is basically what Jim Humble was doing in the beginning without realizing it to cure Malaria)
When we combine 1 drop of MMS with 100ml of water, we will not have any activation externally and so we will get the following:
- 6.7mg X 0% activation = 0.00mg of CLO2
- However, 100% of the CLO2 will be generated when the MMS comes in contact with the acid of our stomach.

Method #2 - MMS1 - 1 MMS drop activated for 30 seconds and then added to 120ml of water:
(The way Jim uses MMS to make CLO2 now)
When we combine 1 drop of MMS with either 1 drop of 4% HCl or 1 drop of 50% citric acid for 30 seconds, we will have only partially activated it to about 10% of its maximum activation and so we will get approximately the following:
- 6.7mg X 10% activation = 0.67mg of CLO2
- The other 90% of the CLO2 will be generated when the remaining MMS comes in contact with the acid in our stomach.

Method #3 - CDS Overnight Method - 1 MMS drop activated overnight and absorbed into distilled water:
(Developed by Andreas Kalcker and friends, then simplified by Charlotte Lackney)
When we combine 1 drop of MMS with either 1 drop of 4% HCl or 1 drop of 50% citric acid and allow the CLO2 gas coming from the drop to absorb into distilled water in a sealed container for 12 hours, we will have only partially extracted the CLO2 from the drop, to about 37% of its maximum amount and so we will get approximately the following:
- 6.7mg X 37% activation = 2.5mg of CLO2
- The other 63% of the CLO2 is lost in the process of making CDS.
- Note that there are no drops of MMS or acid in this - it’s pure CLO2 in distilled water.

Method #4 - CDH Method - 1 MMS drop activated for 8 hours in a bottle with water:
(Developed by Scott McRae and Charlotte Lackney)
When we combine 1 drop of MMS with either 1 drop of 4% HCl or 1 drop of 50% citric acid and 22 drops of water for 8 hours in a sealed glass bottle, we will have only partially activated it to about 50% of its maximum activation and so we will get approximately the following:
- 6.7mg X 50% activation = 3.35mg of CLO2
- The other 50% of the CLO2 will be generated when the remaining MMS comes in contact with the acid in our stomach.
- Note that all the ingredients added together equals 24 drop or 1ml and each ml contains 1 drop of MMS.

Well that's it in a nutshell - let us know if you have any questions.

May you be well,
Scott

Thank you, Scott... That does help my brain understand this all a little better.

However, what I still don't understand is why people aren't talking about Method #1 (as you've described) more. This seems to be by far the easiest way to take it and to my understanding, with zero taste. (I have seen mention of putting a HCl drop in a capsule to take with this in case you don't have enough acid in your stomach.)
Is it just the fact that it's not what Jim Humble does and hasn't been tested as much as MMS1?

Just curious... What is your preferred method and what makes you choose it more over the other methods??

Thanks!

Hi ddb2222,
My understanding is that early on Jim stopped using "Method #1" because he didn't think it gave as good of results as activating - but then again, before he developed "Method #2" he was doing another method which I didn't bother mentioning. It called for taking 1 activated drop two times a day on day 1. 2 drops two times a day on day 2, 3 drops two times a day on day 3, etc., until you got to 15 drops twice a day. Many people couldn't get that high, including my wife and I. We both kind of exploded at both ends (if you know what I mean ) when we got to just 7 drops. That ended it for both of us until Jim developed "Method #2", which was way better, but still a bit nauseating.

One thing is for sure though, and that's that "Method #1" did work to some degree, but I don't know how much testing Jim did with it to come to the conclusion that it wasn't as good as activating.

My preferred way of doing it now is ........ wait for it ...... "Method #1"! And I just put 10 drops in 1 liter of water and then drink 100ml of it every hour. If I burp I can smell and taste the CLO2 so I know it's definitely activating in my stomach. It's also worked to stop the brunt of a couple of colds in just one day. My thinking is that first of all, 6.7mg is a hell of a lot of CLO2 to take at one time, and I'm getting it 10 times in a day! The other thing is that there is no taste or smell to speak of, I don't have to worry about the bottle getting warm, etc., etc. If this way of doing it happens to take a little longer to cure disease, I'm okay with it - I think all the positives are worth the wait.

Personally I'm also looking at it from a clinical perspective. Imagine if you have sick people come to you for help and the only thing you require them to bring you is a 1 liter bottle of water. You just weigh them and then based on their body weight, put the correct number of drops in their bottle of water and tell them to drink 100ml every hour until it's done. That's it. It's that simple! I weigh about 218 lbs. and 1 drop is enough for me so if someone weighed half my weight, I'm thinking they might only need 5 or 6 drops in that bottle, basing the dosing on blood volume. However if they had some kind of external infection, then I'd put "Method #4" into their bottle - CDH, since it's the easiest to make and contains the most CLO2. You'd only need to get the ppm up to around 30 to make a very effective sanitizing solution which could be used for all kinds of stuff, including brushing teeth, all infections, etc.

Well that's all for now - thanks for all your good questions.
Scott