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Discussing equipment for making CDS - new method 28 Jun 2013 20:24 #34201

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Nuttin yet Pam ....

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Discussing equipment for making CDS - new method 02 Jul 2013 20:01 #34294

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OK, this friend with severe RA has been taking 3000 ppm daily doses, 8 doses a day for 3 days with no issues. ... which equals 30 mms drops, right?

I want to increase his dosage so I want to make the CDS stock stronger. In my little pharmacy it takes 24ml of mms with CA (citric acid) to get 3,000 ppm (dont know why but thats how it is in several experiments) So if I increase to 36ml I should anticipate a ppm of 4500 right? .... delivering and equilivent of 45 mms drops per day?
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Discussing equipment for making CDS - new method 02 Jul 2013 20:47 #34295

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You have 2 choices - one is to make the stock stronger, but the easier way is to increase the amount of CDS going into the dose. So, rather than 8mL a day over 8 doses, go to 10mL a day, divided over 8 doses.

You can, of course, increase the MMS and CA at the mixing point - although we have found that the efficiency tends to lessen, so it's not an exact, if I double x I'll get double y.

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Discussing equipment for making CDS - new method 02 Jul 2013 21:04 #34296

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Hi Arrow.

I presume the 3000 ppm CDS doses are 1 ml/hour doses? If so, that is approximately equivalent to a 3 drop MMSA dose in terms of ClO2 only. MMSA contains other chemicals that are not in CDS.

Then 8 hourly doses at 1 ml/dose = 8 ml of 3000 ppm CDS or "24 drops of MMSA" per day, which is Protocol 1000 which is used for dosing MMSA.

We now have a similar protocol for CDS called Protocol 101, so lets use that protocol as we are not using MMSA. MMSA and CDS are not the same chemicals.

Protocol 101 says to mix 10 ml of 3000 ppm CDS in enough water for a daily bottle which can be divided into 8 to 10 hourly doses per day. It also says you can add as much as 50 ml of 3000 ppm CDS to a daily bottle. You would want to increase the daily amount slowly from the basic dose and look for any herx problems.

You don't need to increase your stock CDS to a higher ppm, just use more of the 3000 ppm as per the CDS Dosing Chart. Rather than referring to MMSA dosing equivalents, look at the chart to see how much ClO2 the person is consuming hourly or daily.

Using the basic daily dosing, the person is getting 30 mg ClO2 daily or 3.75 mg/hour if the daily bottle is divided into 8 parts.

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Discussing equipment for making CDS - new method 03 Jul 2013 01:09 #34302

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Can someone tell me where to get a good small air diffuser?
I started to make CDS but the air diffuser I was using got deteriorated to where the plastic tube connects to the stone bubbler by the gas.It melted the plastic in the cold water.

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Discussing equipment for making CDS - new method 03 Jul 2013 01:48 #34303

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That's the problem with air diffusers - the barb melts. I don't use one anymore, it's not needed at all if you use the shot-glass method.

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Discussing equipment for making CDS - new method 03 Jul 2013 02:01 #34305

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can the the shot-glass method make 24000 ppm?

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Discussing equipment for making CDS - new method 03 Jul 2013 04:42 #34307

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ghs174, the melting diffuser problem is one of the reasons why some of us don't use the heating method any longer. Also, if you get the reactor too hot, some of the CA whatever gets into the CDS according to Andreas.

Yes, you can make just as strong or stronger CDS using the over night/shot glass method mainly because it is a closed system-none of the ClO2 gas can escape during the reaction period.

If the first batch is not strong enough, leave the CDS you just made in the receiver container and refill the reactor with fresh ingredients and let it sit another 12 hours. Keep doing that until you get what you what or it blows up, whatever happens first! :ohmy:

Be sure to keep it out of sunlight, even filtered sunlight. You might have noticed in the Kerri Rivera CDS videos that there is a lot of "fog" in the receiver. That is outgassed ClO2 and is caused by sunlight. That could be dangerous!

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Discussing equipment for making CDS - new method 03 Jul 2013 10:55 #34313

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what is the container glass or plastic?
has this proses ever blown up on anyone?

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