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kevlor - we never know when a "mistake" actually takes root. And, as I said early on in this thread, it's hard to break through the training that people have gotten early on about doctors being "gods" - we've been trained, (brainwashed, IMHO) to turn over our health to "the experts" -

One thing that has helped me is that I made a conscious decision to step back from "doer-ship" - I tell them, I make MMS available for them, but as you have noted, they're living the lives that were intended for them -

Steve wrote:

A couple things.... gonna be long... lots I've wanted to say for awhile

Now, if you made a pamphlet that simply contained more ambiguous info..... stuff that you can say.... Like CHLORINE DIOXIDE The most powerful pathogen killer known to man!
Blah blah blah, and you reinforced this verbally with the Church and MMS information.... do you think this could be a help?

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Bill...
You probably think I'm a ass, but I do respect your feelings, and I think you make good points, and have a different point of view than some others.
I respect the fact you say what you feel.... we are alike in that way.
Sorry you are getting frustrated.

Peace

No I don't think that about you Steve or about your opinions, especially since you did not make a personal attack against me. Everyone can have an opinion -- I heard someone say once "opinions are like assholes, everybody has one" LOL

I think there are reasons for concern. Maybe a solution could be to have a church movement and a non church movement. As we all know churches split all the time and if things keep heading in this sacrament direction we may eventually see a split in the MMS movement -- NOT THAT I WANT TO SEE THAT HAPPEN!

In regards to the pamphlet, I would definetely promote the power of Chlorine Dioxide then break it down quickly to show how it can help kill the virus, bacteria and pathogens in the human body. It would also direct them to JimHumbles.biz pages about diseases and protocols, plus this forum. At that point anymore research by someone will lead them to many many web sites that they will have to sift through. But, with the very low cost of MMS they will quickly see the minimal profits generated thereby realizing it is all about getting healed and less about a business and money. Nothing wrong with making money because it does take an effort to get this product out to people.

Thanks for the opinions, I am getting some good ideas. I hope to hear more.

I will not use the word sacrament but I was referring people to the website and I noticed they are changing the wording there. I can no longer refer them to it. I actually had a person tell me that it reminded him of the Jim Jones tragedy. Yuck

Judy wrote:

I will not use the word sacrament but I was referring people to the website and I noticed they are changing the wording there. I can no longer refer them to it. I actually had a person tell me that it reminded him of the Jim Jones tragedy. Yuck

I hope someone can speak with Jim and put a stop to this before it goes to far!
The product, MMS is for everyone, and it can not under any circumstances be called a sacrament. Jim can state that in the church constitution if he wishes but I will never refer to it as a sacrament.

In reality it is Chlorine Dioxide which is an Advanced Oxygen Therapy -- which is NOT tied to any one group or person anymore. It has grown beyond boarders and boundries. It is out of any one person's control or influence -- it is alive and it is growing -- it is what it is! It is now taking us for a ride towards freedom and good health.

If for some reason using Sacrament it is a legal thing and JH actually states it is a legal thing and it keeps the FDA's hand off the MMS then fine.

But if JH says calling it sacrament it is not a legal thing I don't think it is a good idea to call it sacrament. Eww Jim Jones... yes I can see how people new to this might get the wrong impression.

I like AOT and Water purification drops

Pamphlet is a good idea and super easy to make and people do like pamphlets

Bill you certainly have quite the spunky personality and the new picture is much much better!

I'm not sure pamphlets would do the trick as I would be the first one (if not already aware of the product) to question the contents.

People are wired to see a doctor when not well as we have been told for ever that they are the life savers. It's pretty difficult to break that trust between patient and doctor as most do believe that big pharma's are out there to help us therefore having doctors prescribing drugs to hopefully take care of the problem.

Personally, I think the best approach is one based on facts. Having people who are either cured or on their way will gladly support MMS.

Just my opinion.

First, on the topic of using the term "Sacrament": In my (limited) understanding, it is a legal thing; but, open acknowledgement of that could potentially cause the loss of the protections afforded by the term. While I think it's reprehensible that we have to jump through all kinds of hoops to stay out of hot water for helping people, that IS, unfortunately, the world we live in. The FDA goons remind me of the "firemen" in Fahrenheit 451!!!

As for a pamphlet: In a perfect, uncorrupt world it would be a great idea; but, in this greed and power based environment, putting one together that wouldn't risk doing more harm than good would be tricky. The MIC and their goons have things so convoluted that it's intentionally made the promotion of anything which threatens their bottom line a legal mine field. As far as I can tell, they can't do much to prevent people from speaking of their own experiences and telling folks to just do their own research; and, they can't do much about a church's sacraments. Hopefully, they can't do much about information such as that which is presented on: genesis-2.org/science-of-chlorin-dioxide ; but, unfortunately, way too many people would find that "over their heads." Perhaps the authors of that article would be kind enough to either allow some of the less technical portions of their work to be use in a pamphlet; or, maybe even help out by putting together a less technical version that's based upon their research. It REALLY SUCKS that we have to "find loop holes" just to help people have a decent quality of life and to promote good health!!!!! Healthy people aren't cash cows for their milking, though.... I truly wish I had better ideas; but, we're essentially freedom fighters in a war against legally sanctioned and enforced corruption.

The reason I would like to see a pamphlet is for the quick encounters we have with people in our daily lives. For instance, last night I was having dinner in a local Steak House, actually in the bar area waiting for a table. This gentleman sits down beside my wife and me and I started to talk with him. He had a big hard copy book and I jokingly said to him who brings a book to dinner. Long story made short, this man was in medicine and it was a science book, he was also an inventor promoting his product at our local cancer clinic, cancer is his specialty. After talking with him I am convinced that doctors are totally brain washed about cancers and diseases. He made statements like if it is to good to be true then it probably isn't true. He also said he is having isues with the FDA -- no surprise there either.
Anyway we had a good short talk and all I could get was his e-mail which was from the University of California Institute and I am in Ontario.

We NEVER know who we are destined to meet so we need to be prepared and studied on this subject. For those that do not have a great handle on this product yet pamplets will do that work for you. Again, time constrants are always going to be a problem in chance meetings and opportunitities to share information about MMS.

I seriously wish I had something to hand to him for his trip home -- the very next day!
I will send him an email with information and I will also direct him to this forum as well.

I use business cards, have found to have the Sacrament-Protocol 1000 on A4 piece of paper useful and on the other side the Malaria Sacrament-Protocol as it is the next common one in use out here in Africa, have contacts and any other info I want on the flyer.

Also use a flyer with the MMS1 and 2 product explaining what it is and making no claims etc, stickers on the bottles should be attractive with tel nos and websites...

Most people don't have time for books and long studies. For this reason let pictures support the facts as we people love pictures more then words. 1 picture = many words, we humans have a pictorial memory and evolve much faster using it.

A full spalsh in your local press-advertising classifieds ads should bring enough interests from all sides I would imagine, national TV if you can afford it and have set up good legal disclaimers....