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Does MMS lower iron levels? 11 Mar 2023 07:39 #77929

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I saw an article the other day saying sodium chlorite or chlorine dioxide (cannot remember which) oxidized iron and could lower iron levels to unsafe levels in the body. I have not heard this before. My son is dealing with low hemoglobin. He is on iron supplements. Back when his blood was tested and determined to have low hemoglobin, we were taking mms a few times a week because we had tested positive for COVID, but really didnt have many symptoms. My son is special needs so I am cautious with every thing I do. I am cautious to give MMS and cautious when I don't. This is the first time he ever tested this way. Any scary diagnosis have been ruled out. He looks pale, but has looked that way for years. I know how to take vitamins if one wants to while doing a protocol, and have heard MMS wipes out B12, so supplement or eat red meat, but that is the extent of my memory for such things.

Has anyone else heard this? Do people with low hemoglobin need to be concerned about taking MMS? We were using Protocol 1000.

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Does MMS lower iron levels? 11 Mar 2023 08:38 #77932

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When my wife was pregnant she had dangerously low iron levels. She bought dried adzuki beans and soaked them overnight, adding them to meals. Her next blood test saw her iron levels go through the roof. I am sure MMS depletes some things in the body, so it is always wise to have a varied diet. I hope your son's health improves quickly.
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Does MMS lower iron levels? 11 Mar 2023 09:19 #77934

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Thank you. Adzuki beans are good with onions and tamari sauce. I had heard about Golden Dal or yellow Dal was really high in iron when this first happened. Then I learned that if we wanted the iron to be absorbed from a non-meat source, it had to be consumed without grains or dairy. I just upped his meat. It was the easiest thing to do at the time because it doesn't matter what he eats with it. We had been moving towards vegan, and would go days without meat.I thought I was doing the right thing.

We are both type O blood.I know Eat Right for Your Blood Type is old information, but I do feel better if I have a little meat every day or so.Just like my brain works better on one cup of black coffee in the morning, whether the current medical research says its good or bad for me. I just took it as a sign we were to eat meat in our diet for now. We had been eating a salad that was just mixed greens topped with mozzarella and pumpkin seeds, with old school red marzetti dressing like our mom's made from scratch in the 70's, and it was so satisfying. Sure enough, greens, mozzarella and pumpkin seed were good for our blood type. So we are focusing more on simple veg/legume with a little meat, made from scratch meals now.

We were recommended Thorne Research B12 as Methylcobalamin, by one of my son's practitioners and it has worked well. We are using their iron supplement now too. Amazon reviews seemed in line with our experience of their products. His next blood test is in April.

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Does MMS lower iron levels? 14 Mar 2023 12:54 #78001

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Hello premer007. It´s sad that your son is aenemic. Is he low in energy also? When he´s special needs, you could ask Kerry Rivera for a consultation, she´s familiar with MMS, and with dietary advice both. 
She treats autistic children with MMS, and a proper diet.

About MMS affecting the level of iron I´ve never heard, nor found any reference of such in Jim´s book.
I can only offer my own experience with MMS and Vit. B12 plus the risk of iron shortage. I´m taking 6 drops before sleep every evening, since the start of Nov. 2022. As a maintenance dose, feeling good.

Since I´ve tried a vegetarian diet for some time, resulting in Vit. B12 shortage, in my case, in 2018, and early 2022, I´ve used a Vit. B12 supplement, a dosage of 600 once a day. Also in the months of Nov. and Dec. 2022, without noticing any effect of MMS on my intake of this supplement.

I was sensitive to iron shortage, had to swallow large iron pills when I was about 6 years old, followed by a warm glass of milk, with 2 more of the same every day, ughhh! at that time, the iron pills affected the stomach too much, hence the amount of milk lining the stomach wall. 

After that cure I´ve never had any problem, also because I choose a varied diet, so that it´s most complete and wholesome, since 1973. I´m 72 now. My energy level is excellent, except when I noticed the symptoms of Vit. B12 shortage, not eating meat. As soon as I ate chicken liver for 3 days, all was well again. Quite amazing. Animal organ meat contains a rich amount of minerals and nutrients. 
There´s a peculiar problem with iron absorption, in that no matter how much iron one ingests, like the food you´ve mentioned that is rich in iron, the body cannot absorb it well. Physical activity improves the digestive process, and circulation, as you know.

I´m eating meat again, now, 2 or 3 times a week, my conscience isn´t troubled by it. I do know that many doctors on my country, The Netherlands, receive young people in their practice, who´ve chosen a vegan diet, or raw diet, complaining about fatigue and concentration problems. Vit. B12 shortage is more frequent than ever, and for children in their years of physical development it´s important to eat well

As a nutritionist, I know that iron and Vit.B12 are related, since Vit.B12 supports the cellular transfer of substances such as nutrients, oxygen, etc. Hence the symptoms of weakness, a sense of fatigue, brain fog, and lethargy in general, when there´s a shortage of Vit. B12. Iron shortage shows up with similar symptoms. And so, these two should be checked both, in order to see a clearer picture. Does your son love to eat meat? How is his diet? I noticed you changed to a vegan diet. Was this the cause of your son´s aenemic condition maybe?

When it´s the case that you feel cautious in both directions, so to speak, I suggest contacting Kerri Rivera. Good luck with finding a solution!  Kerri Rivera – Real Solutions
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Does MMS lower iron levels? 20 Mar 2023 08:45 #78062

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Hello Bill, there's no issue of substances being bad or good, that's up to each person to decide, and experience. Please leave sentiments out, and stick to factual content?

MMS is an oxidiser removing pathogens from a living system. It still is showing up with surprising effects, such as its impact on the detoxification of the C-19 virus and mRNA vaccines.

Such as shown in the Mexican Blue Truth video, where the vaccination code doesn't show up on screen, in the test, while the person, taking MMS,  is vaccinated with the mRNA vaccine, and carries his smartphone in active bluetooth mode.

When I advice people, I always warn them to be careful with MMS, when they carry artificial implants in their body. 
Such as a pacemaker, breast implants, and even steel, repacing hips and knees, etc.

At least, I imagine that ingesting MMS through the digestive systen, will have the most impact on one's body. 
Bathing in an MMS solution might be different.

Other more experienced members here, probably have more info on this subject.
I'd be interested to hear the opinion of others about this.

 
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Does MMS lower iron levels? 26 Mar 2023 10:02 #78111

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Hi "Mary Poppins",
I have a question to what you write about: "When I advice people, I always warn them to be careful with MMS, when they carry artificial implants in their body. 
Such as a pacemaker, breast implants, and even steel, replacing hips and knees, etc."

- Why could MMS be a potential problem with a steel implant? (I have two steel plates on my femurs, after extensive hip surgery).

Thank you in advance.
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Does MMS lower iron levels? 30 Mar 2023 17:35 #78161

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Hello MTW, I know, it seems unlikely that MMS could have an effect on steel implants. The reason why I'm careful, warning people when advising about MMS treatment, is that Jim Humble recommends such caution in his Health Recovery Guide, and also writes that MMS treatment keeps showing up with surprising results to this day.

I think it's a good idea to do some research, for myself also, finding testimonies of people who used MMS and live with implants in their body. There's an extensive page with testimonies of all ailments A -B on Jim Humble's site with testimonials. That page might be accessible through a link that is present here as well, I think I've noticed it in the home page. I hope this clarified something, answering your question.
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