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Really extreme herxheimer reaction.. 27 Mar 2022 12:40 #74537

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Hello 
Thank you for responding - I might have answered some of what you are asking above. 
We unfortunately didn't start on the 'starting procedure' - we were influenced by someone else who had no ill affects at taking 3ml plus doses all throughout the day. They were extremely naive to assume 'we would all be same' however but that is our fault for blithely doing as they bade. 
So when I say we started off at '1ml' - I mean '1ml' of CDS in 200ml water many times per day - I had read AK's protocol: so know that Protocol A; stipulates working up to 3ml morning, noon and night. 
I have just refreshed my memory on JH's books and in Protocol 1000: he does refer to 'taking 3 drops (which would be 3ml of CDS) on the hour for up to 8 hours.
No unfortunately I don't have AK's book.  
Hello HollyDuffy, since this exchange of comments I was curious about the remedy to calm down a Herxheimer reaction. This recommendation might
help in your situation. Even the lemon and apple cider vinegar alone, taken with the juice of freshly grated ginger, without the oxy-powder, may do the
job. For this is recommended as a cleaning of the digestion system on many other sites. Also, sustaining the liver with a tonic of Weleda or another brand producing organic tonics, is helpful during the recovery of your symptoms. Bitter taste in food is good for the liver also.  It's okay to add a bit of local or organic honey to sweeten the overnight flush somewhat. There are other helpful suggestions at your fingertips, I assume. Internet being a library without walls. The website link is below also:

The Overnight Flush
  • Squeeze the juice of ½ organic lemon and add 1 teaspoon of organic raw unfiltered apple cider vinegar into 16 ounces of distilled water.
  • Drink before bedtime with 4-8 capsules of  oxy-powder  on an empty stomach away from any foods or other supplements. Oxy-powder releases oxygen in the colon to detoxify and loosen toxins, undigested food particles and waste buildup so they can be flushed out naturally by the body.  Learn more about oxy-powder.
  • Expect the next day to have a series of bowel movements with many of the toxins being eliminated. Most people feel a significant relief when these toxins are being flushed out.
  • If you have never taken oxy-powder before, start with 2 capsules and gradually increase if needed.
The Overnight Toxins Flush - Nature's Most Potent Remedies (candidaspecialists.com)
 

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Really extreme herxheimer reaction.. 27 Mar 2022 15:58 #74539

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Hello Mary,

You need to forget about that notion of 1 drop = 1 ml, they are far from equivalent.

To give you a rough idea, 20 drops of anything (CD, water, beer, any liquid) will equate to 1 ml in volume.

So when a protocol says take 1 drop of CD, it really means 1 drop, not 1 ml.

CDS however is measured in ml, not drops. So 1 ml of CDS will be 1 ml of CDS, that simple.

Best way to know how much 1ml of anything is, is to just buy a 1 ml syringe from your pharmacy and use that instead. You can't go wrong and you'll see that 1 ml of whatever is way more than 1 drop.

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Really extreme herxheimer reaction.. 27 Mar 2022 16:31 #74542

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Hello Mary,

You need to forget about that notion of 1 drop = 1 ml, they are far from equivalent.

To give you a rough idea, 20 drops of anything (CD, water, beer, any liquid) will equate to 1 ml in volume.

So when a protocol says take 1 drop of CD, it really means 1 drop, not 1 ml.

CDS however is measured in ml, not drops. So 1 ml of CDS will be 1 ml of CDS, that simple.

Best way to know how much 1ml of anything is, is to just buy a 1 ml syringe from your pharmacy and use that instead. You can't go wrong and you'll see that 1 ml of whatever is way more than 1 drop.
 

Andreas Kalcker says that 1 drop of MMS1 = 1ml of 3000ppm CDS. Taking into account the additional activation in the stomach of the MMS.
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Really extreme herxheimer reaction.. 28 Mar 2022 19:59 #74557

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Thanks for responding - it's interesting to note that your appetite has been affected to? Both mine and my husband's has been severely affected - not only do I not feel hungry at all but I'm having difficulty actually eating anything at all! 
This is really scary stuff and I wish I had never come across it - I still feel like sh*t and it's over a week since I last had some. 

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Really extreme herxheimer reaction.. 28 Mar 2022 20:05 #74558

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Thank you for that suggestion - I still feel dreadful and I really do mean - dreadful! 
My appetite has completely gone and I'm having difficulty getting any food down at all - I really feel that I have damaged myself by taking this lethal cocktail.. 

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Really extreme herxheimer reaction.. 29 Mar 2022 06:15 #74561

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Hello Holly Duff, I understand that you feel dreadful, please don't stop eating, try to drink wholesome fluids, for example, oat milk, almond milk, so that you ingest nutrients. Not eating makes you feel more dreadful. And try to be practical and take steps to make you feel better. You've made a decision to overdose and your body needs to recover from it. It will recover in due time, and otherwise, contact Andrea Kalcker or any other person with much experience related to MMS. You'll see that feeling better will return, don't despair.

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Really extreme herxheimer reaction.. 29 Mar 2022 11:47 #74564

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Mine lasted 5 days. Stop all treatment till feeling much better. Also, what I found that REALLY help me getting better was NAC. It finds and binds with the junk created from the detox and helps to eliminate them from the body. I ordered my NAC from Pure Encapsulations. Not cheap but OMG did it help!

Also, get some activated charcoal and take it. 
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Really extreme herxheimer reaction.. 29 Mar 2022 15:53 #74570

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Mine lasted 5 days. Stop all treatment till feeling much better. Also, what I found that REALLY help me getting better was NAC. It finds and binds with the junk created from the detox and helps to eliminate them from the body. I ordered my NAC from Pure Encapsulations. Not cheap but OMG did it help!

Also, get some activated charcoal and take it. 

That's an excellent advice, I believe, MrHemlock, yes! Hadn't thought of suggesting NAC, but it's recommended as a detoxifyer indeed. Since I've started using it 6 months ago, I've been surprised how good it works. Not for any health problem, but for cleaning the digestive system, which results in a comfortable feeling, with no low blood sugar symptoms with grumpiness on an empty stomach. The signal that I wnat to eat is present, but without any mood change. That's a very nice change, for I can hold on much longer on an empty stomach without discomfort. Truthseeker shared his insight about NAC cleaning the inner lining of the intestines.

The charcoal is a very good advice also, I assume. I use it once a month, as a general cleaning through my system. The activated variety that is. My NAC in powder form is from Germany www.vitalundfitmit100.de (I'm from the Netherlands) and their NAC costs 12,95 euro for 100 gram. Not sure if shipment is within Europe. I'm taking a flat small teaspoon content daily, solved in filtered water with agave syrup as sweetener.

NAC doesn't taste very pleasant, it's okay to eat it in yoghurt, with honey or any ingredient that makes it easy to eat. It's also available in the form of capsules. Here's the powder substance for 10,39 euro a 100 gram plus 15 euro shipment. This is for within European countries:
N Acetyl L Cysteine | NAC Powder | Bulk™ EU


 

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Really extreme herxheimer reaction.. 08 Apr 2022 07:34 #74679

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If you confused drops with milliliters then you may have over dosed by 20 times. No wonder you are feeling sick.

You can get NAC in 600 mg capsules and you take two of these a day, separated, on an empty stomach.

And for gods sake - if you start with something new, you take a tiny amount of it and wait 24 hours to see how it goes. Etc.

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