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21 Jul 2021 11:50 #70163
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Hi all
I'm trying to figure out where to buy MMS within Europe.
Thanks for your help in advance.
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I'm trying to figure out where to buy MMS within Europe.
Thanks for your help in advance.
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22 Jul 2021 01:16 #70169
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22 Jul 2021 23:58 #70174
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wps.care is one of the best.
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23 Jul 2021 11:24 - 23 Jul 2021 11:39 #70179
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The site is so expensive, it's unbelievable...
Since 30 ml of sodium chlorite and hydrochloric acid cost a whopping of 30 euros...
Here in Germany, 1 liter of hydrochloric acid and one liter of sodium chlorite costs just as much. So 2 x 1000 ml in total not only 2 x 30 ml...
Example hydrochloric acid for 16,70 EUR:
www.amazon.de/Algin-Salzs%C3%A4ure-chemisch-Liter-Lebensmittelzusatz/dp/B01LYORJXM/ref=sr_1_7?__mk_de_DE=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&dchild=1&keywords=1+Liter+salzs%C3%A4ure&qid=1627038733&sr=8-7
Example sodium chlorite 17,00 EUR:
www.amazon.de/Natriumchlorit-L%C3%B6sung-25-Gebindegr%C3%B6%C3%9Fe-Liter/dp/B00ZYCFWMK/ref=sr_1_1?__mk_de_DE=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&dchild=1&keywords=1+Liter+natriumchlorit&qid=1627038827&sr=8-1
The dealer sells for the same price then only 30 ml... so he takes 33 times as much money as the ingredients actually costs (for endconsumers, not for sellers)... That's a pretty good profit what the dealer wants to make. Because this way he makes 3300 EUR profit from 100 EUR investment costs. That is almost outrageous...
And I do not think that in Europe the prices differ so much. The dealer comes from the Netherlands which is right next to Germany. I think there the ingredients cost about the same.
The site is so expensive, it's unbelievable...
Since 30 ml of sodium chlorite and hydrochloric acid cost a whopping of 30 euros...
Here in Germany, 1 liter of hydrochloric acid and one liter of sodium chlorite costs just as much. So 2 x 1000 ml in total not only 2 x 30 ml...
Example hydrochloric acid for 16,70 EUR:
www.amazon.de/Algin-Salzs%C3%A4ure-chemisch-Liter-Lebensmittelzusatz/dp/B01LYORJXM/ref=sr_1_7?__mk_de_DE=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&dchild=1&keywords=1+Liter+salzs%C3%A4ure&qid=1627038733&sr=8-7
Example sodium chlorite 17,00 EUR:
www.amazon.de/Natriumchlorit-L%C3%B6sung-25-Gebindegr%C3%B6%C3%9Fe-Liter/dp/B00ZYCFWMK/ref=sr_1_1?__mk_de_DE=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&dchild=1&keywords=1+Liter+natriumchlorit&qid=1627038827&sr=8-1
The dealer sells for the same price then only 30 ml... so he takes 33 times as much money as the ingredients actually costs (for endconsumers, not for sellers)... That's a pretty good profit what the dealer wants to make. Because this way he makes 3300 EUR profit from 100 EUR investment costs. That is almost outrageous...
And I do not think that in Europe the prices differ so much. The dealer comes from the Netherlands which is right next to Germany. I think there the ingredients cost about the same.
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23 Jul 2021 13:33 - 23 Jul 2021 13:35 #70181
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I'm in Europe and cannot buy from the link you showed (it says outside delivery location), and I had a look at a lot of other places on the list CLO2 posted and so far the prices are the same or more. Only 1 site was cheaper but no idea about shipping or tax yet. On Ebay it's the same story unless you're talking about CDS but that has a shorter shelf life and is better made ourselves. However, one can buy the Sodium Chlorite crystals for a good price though.
I'm in Europe and cannot buy from the link you showed (it says outside delivery location), and I had a look at a lot of other places on the list CLO2 posted and so far the prices are the same or more. Only 1 site was cheaper but no idea about shipping or tax yet. On Ebay it's the same story unless you're talking about CDS but that has a shorter shelf life and is better made ourselves. However, one can buy the Sodium Chlorite crystals for a good price though.
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23 Jul 2021 15:56 - 23 Jul 2021 15:59 #70183
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I can't agree with that, in the Netherlands it is even cheaper than in Germany. After a very short search I found these suppliers from netherland. But of course it depends on the exact country for which you are looking for the substances. But to stick with the example country I found here some examples/suppliers that offer normal prices for the netherlands.
Example hydrochloric acid 1 liter for 13,92 EUR:
www.laboratoriumdiscounter.nl/nl/zoutzuur-5-copy.html
With this supplier you would still have to dilute the hydrochloric acid but the prices beat anything I have seen so far.
Example hydrochloric acid 1 liter (10%) for 3,95 EUR:
www.deoplosmiddelspecialist.nl/kopen/zoutzuur
And even at Hornbach there is hydrochloric acid at super low prices, although even that would have to be diluted again. But in terms of price, we are then in the super cheap range. (Whereby it is better to order it from a chemical supplier instead of a hardware store because there it is only technical purity.)
www.hornbach.nl/shop/Zoutzuur-1-l/8726938/artikel.html
The same applies to sodium chlorite.
Example sodium chlorite 20,33 EUR:
www.laboratoriumdiscounter.nl/nl/natriumchloriet-25.html
And in some countries it is indeed the case that the prices of both substances are enormous. As an example, I can mention Mexico, where a liter of hydrochloric acid or sodium chlorite costs over 500 USD on amazon and ebay. But here in Europe, I would be very surprised if the ingredients were so extremely expensive in one country and then almost given away in the neighboring country. Especially the ingredients for CDS are needed in all corners of the industry. That is why they cannot and must not be very expensive.
I can't agree with that, in the Netherlands it is even cheaper than in Germany. After a very short search I found these suppliers from netherland. But of course it depends on the exact country for which you are looking for the substances. But to stick with the example country I found here some examples/suppliers that offer normal prices for the netherlands.
Example hydrochloric acid 1 liter for 13,92 EUR:
www.laboratoriumdiscounter.nl/nl/zoutzuur-5-copy.html
With this supplier you would still have to dilute the hydrochloric acid but the prices beat anything I have seen so far.
Example hydrochloric acid 1 liter (10%) for 3,95 EUR:
www.deoplosmiddelspecialist.nl/kopen/zoutzuur
And even at Hornbach there is hydrochloric acid at super low prices, although even that would have to be diluted again. But in terms of price, we are then in the super cheap range. (Whereby it is better to order it from a chemical supplier instead of a hardware store because there it is only technical purity.)
www.hornbach.nl/shop/Zoutzuur-1-l/8726938/artikel.html
The same applies to sodium chlorite.
Example sodium chlorite 20,33 EUR:
www.laboratoriumdiscounter.nl/nl/natriumchloriet-25.html
And in some countries it is indeed the case that the prices of both substances are enormous. As an example, I can mention Mexico, where a liter of hydrochloric acid or sodium chlorite costs over 500 USD on amazon and ebay. But here in Europe, I would be very surprised if the ingredients were so extremely expensive in one country and then almost given away in the neighboring country. Especially the ingredients for CDS are needed in all corners of the industry. That is why they cannot and must not be very expensive.
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24 Jul 2021 07:13 #70191
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Thanks a lot for your replies! I'll take a look at the different options
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10 Aug 2021 23:20 #70403
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Have you ever made any purchases from laboratoriumdiscounter.nl?
Have you ever made any purchases from laboratoriumdiscounter.nl?
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11 Aug 2021 02:49 - 11 Aug 2021 03:06 #70406
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No, because I am ordering always from german sellers. But the site is apparently listed on some review sites where the reviews seem quite okay (otherwise one would not list such a site from my point of view). Also the bank details and a support phone number is available
Here are the ratings of the site are quite ok
www.kiyoh.com/reviews/1063725/Laboratoriumdiscounter?from=widget&lang=nl
Here the ratings are rather average
nl.trustpilot.com/review/laboratoriumdiscounter.nl
Here the reviews are also rather average
webshopchecker.nl/shop/laboratoriumdiscounter-nl/#:~:text=De%20webshop%20laboratoriumdiscounter.nl%20scoort,van%20een%20webshop%20te%20bepalen .
Note from webshopchecker about the rating:
"The webshop laboratoriumdiscounter.nl scores a 5 on a scale of 10. There is room for improvement, but this does not mean that laboratorydiscounter.nl by definition is unreliable. This score is a tool to determine the reliability of a shop."
Of course, this is not a certainty, but there are also other sites where one can order the ingredients cheaply. But I think the site should be ok. At least it looks "pretty serious".
No, because I am ordering always from german sellers. But the site is apparently listed on some review sites where the reviews seem quite okay (otherwise one would not list such a site from my point of view). Also the bank details and a support phone number is available
Here are the ratings of the site are quite ok
www.kiyoh.com/reviews/1063725/Laboratoriumdiscounter?from=widget&lang=nl
Here the ratings are rather average
nl.trustpilot.com/review/laboratoriumdiscounter.nl
Here the reviews are also rather average
webshopchecker.nl/shop/laboratoriumdiscounter-nl/#:~:text=De%20webshop%20laboratoriumdiscounter.nl%20scoort,van%20een%20webshop%20te%20bepalen .
Note from webshopchecker about the rating:
"The webshop laboratoriumdiscounter.nl scores a 5 on a scale of 10. There is room for improvement, but this does not mean that laboratorydiscounter.nl by definition is unreliable. This score is a tool to determine the reliability of a shop."
Of course, this is not a certainty, but there are also other sites where one can order the ingredients cheaply. But I think the site should be ok. At least it looks "pretty serious".
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11 Aug 2021 03:14 #70407
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Great! I might just give them a try some time. 1 Litre of those ingredients are a great deal, particularly during times such as these! Thanks for the information..
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