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The W.H.O. acknowledges the existence Herxheimer reaction 10 May 2020 08:45 #64124

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The W.H.O. has a sneaky and VERY smart way of acknowledging the existence of the dreaded and {controversial} Herxheimer reaction !

i must say, the discovery by South Korean medical scientists that SOME of the people who were CLINICALLY CONFIRMED to have RECOVERED from coronavirus but later appeared to be relapsing and testing POSITIVE **again** . . . is an interesting observation !

www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-8295495/EXPLAINER-S-Korean-findings-suggest-reinfected-coronavirus-cases-false-positives.html

we're Not talking about an isolated incident of 10 or less people here. we're talking about MORE than 300 cases (in South Korea) of RECOVERED patients {clinically recovered} who LATER tested POSITIVE again. i repeat . . . these patients *LATER* tested positive **AGAIN**, therefore

1. in the BEGINNING the person tested POSITIVE

2. she then RECOVERS from the disease/coronavirus, so her test results are coming out NEGATIVE, so she's CLEARED to go back home and NOT worry about the possibility of her INFECTING other people

3. but Lo and Behold, the SAME TEST when repeated a few weeks *LATER*, following the person's CONFIRMED RECOVERY, the test picks up that the person is testing POSITIVE AGAIN !! Oops !! are you for REAL that someone who tested NEGATIVE in step 2 above is now testing POSITIVE again but she must still be regarded as RECOVERED ?? Woooow !!

the really BURNING question in my mind is . . . Howwww did this *clinically recovered* person test NEGATIVE in the FIRST PLACE during the declaration of her CLINICAL RECOVERY if a LATER test STILL manages to find traces of the virus that was completely or NEAR-completely Non-existent in her body since in her clinical recovery she had to test NEGATIVE ??

out of NOWHERE, the World Health Organization, in RECORD TIME, managed to come up with a VERY SMART philosophy by explaining TO THE WORLD, that these patients are apparently expelling LEFT OVER MATERIALS (viral debris) from their lungs, as PART OF THEIR RECOVERY PHASE !

I know, from a technical perspective, some people MIGHT be tempted to argue on the semantics of

What does "recovered from coronavirus" mean?

Well, if we scroll HALF way on this page

theconversation.com/what-does-recovered-from-coronavirus-mean-4-questions-answered-about-how-some-survive-and-what-happens-next-134883

We see/learn/read this . . .

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Why have so few people officially recovered in the US?
This is a dangerous virus, so the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is being extremely careful when deciding what it means to recover from COVID-19. Both medical and testing criteria must be met before a person is officially declared recovered.

Medically, a person must be fever-free without fever-reducing medications for three consecutive days. They must show an improvement in their other symptoms, including reduced coughing and shortness of breath. And it must be at least seven full days since the symptoms began.

In ADDITION to those requirements, the CDC guidelines say that a person MUST TEST NEGATIVE for the coronavirus TWICE, with the tests taken at LEAST 24 hours apart.
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i hope you READ that last statement slowly and clearly. to BE CONSIDERED as RECOVERED from the coronavirus, the CDC insists that you must test NEGATIVE TWICE ! and the 2 tests must be at LEAST 24 hours apart, so the first test may be TODAY, while the SECOND test "may" be 4 days or even 8 days later ! and that SECOND test must STILL come back NEGATIVE duh !!! LOL.

anyway, let's park it for a moment and LEAVE the W.H.O. alone with their sneaky way of coming up with a very smart philosophy to explain their way out of this DEFINITE logical fallacy in their explanation of recovered coronavirus patients STILL testing POSITIVE many days post-RECOVERY. the idea behind the Herxheimer reaction is NOT only highly controversial, if **YOU** were to mention it, medical scientists always tend/love to dismiss it and laugh it off as a logical fallacy and an absolute oxymoron ! i mean . . . it's laughable because . . . why are you {first} getting WORSE by the NUMBERS, if you're "claiming" to be getting BETTER ? LOL, right ?

You may want to know, how does this relate to MMS ?

Well, the trouble with MMS is that it is ALWAYS criticized on the grounds that it {apparently} produces SIDE EFFECTS. to put it frankly, MMS is often criticized on the BELIEF that it is DIRECTLY DOING HARM ! there are FAR LESS attacks on the curative/healing properties of MMS, and there are also FAR LESS beliefs that MMS does NOTHING (does NOT cure any disease but is neutral/harmless in the body), but rather there is FAR MORE criticism oriented towards MMS {apparently} causing HARM in the body. so the SIDE EFFECTS are the BIG turn off for many new-comers to MMS. the stories behind these side effects are often SO AMPLIFIED (over-amplified!) they have become the PRIMARY ROOT of the MASSIVE CONTROVERSY behind MMS, to such an extent that most new-comers to MMS will end up deciding to simply SKIP MMS altogether rather than "risk" anything further about it or even take/try ONE drop of it. It is a situation of absolute absurdity ! the typical entry point regarding the side effects of MMS for most new-comers => "1. MMS is a bleach ! 2. MMS is INDUSTRIAL-grade bleach ! etc". i bet that, as a new-comer to MMS, your VERY FIRST FEAR about trying MMS was also underpinned by EXACTLY this MASSIVE CONTROVERSY that you also encountered on the internet regarding the SIDE EFFECTS of MMS. most often however, these are NEVER even presented as "SIDE" effects, they are rather always presented and AMPLIFIED as "HARMFUL" effects of ingesting MMS.

YEARRRS ago, i remember reading Jim Humble's book

The Master Mineral Solution of the Third Millennium

in this book, on page 108, Jim discusses how MMS "cures" the HIV virus, and guess what ?? in the book, Jim mentions that people get chicken-scared when AFTER consuming MMS in an effort to eradicate/wipe-out HIV, their VIRAL LOAD test result shoots into the MILLIONS or TENS of Millions !! of course, the idea and philosophy behind this explanation is SCARY as hell, especially when you FIRST encounter it from "a man" simply known as Jim Humble, LOL . . . i mean . . . just think about it . . . you are HIV positive, you drink MMS and boom . . . your viral load shoots into the Tens of Millions !! Nothing could be MORE terrifying, right ? LOL. Jim explains that there is viral debris (remnants of DEAD/killed virions - inactive/defunct Viral RNA) that will be detected as a HIGH viral load IN THE BLOOD because the (PCR) test is designed to perform a quantitative analysis (COUNT) of how many Thousands/Millions of viral RNA were found in a drop of blood, so it does NOT matter whether these virions are alive or dead, active/infectious or in-active, the test WILL still COUNT them ALL and give a NUMBER as its result ! but Jim goes on to clarify that this HIGH viral load is just viral debris from DEAD/killed/ripped virions, therefore one should NOT be fearful or be terrified about this seemingly "tragic" observation ! of course the HARD part for most people here is that the RESULT of the test is a 100% Scientific process that spews REAL NUMBERS in your face and we've ALL been taught that NUMBERS don't lie, right ? LOL !!

I now quote Jim's words verbatim from page 108 of
The Master Mineral Solution of the Third Millennium

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"About Viral Load Readings
Here is an important point to keep in mind. Should you have a viral load test done for anything before you are completely well, it will read EXTREMELY HIGH. In hundreds of cases in Mexico and Africa, the viral load always increased OUT OF SIGHT when the person was taking MMS. The reading often went up to 8 or 9 million and even MORE ! Most of the doctors at the hospitals where my people were tested had never seen viral load readings that high. However, those readings on all of our people finally went to zero."

Jim then closes off by stating boldly that
"Once you are on MMS, quit using the ARVs. MMS will kill the HIV and you will still be doing OK 50 years from now. Consider that we already have 800 patients cleared of HIV in our African jungle program. They all feel good and are happy with their results. I don’t believe you could convince ANY of them that they still have HIV."
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Now ask yourself: If you were to EVER try to suggest to the same W.H.O. experts that the HIV virus (being just another virus in the same way that SARS-CoV-2 is just a virus) will produce EXTREMELY HIGH viral loads during treatment with MMS as a sign {or PART} of HEALING, or you EVER mentioned concepts such as the Herxheimer reaction, I bet that out of NOWHERE, they (W.H.O.) would INSTANTLY TURN AROUND and try to DIRECTLY reason AGAINST their philosophy earlier above just to DETEST **YOU** and **YOUR** weak theory & belief !! they would IRONICALLY abandon their smart/sneaky philosophy wherein they had the guts to EQUALLY and **BOLDLY CLAIM** that in the MORE than 300 cases of RECOVERED patients in South Korea who LATER TESTED POSITIVE again, the effect/cause of this POSITIVE-RESULT on a LATER RE-TEST was just a fluke caused by DEAD viral debris in the body of a RECOVERED patient. But perhaps the better way is for me to NOT put words into their mouth or interpret their words. I think the best way is for me to quote their words verbatim :

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a W.H.O. **spokesperson** told AFP, without making specific reference to the South Korean cases : "From what we currently know – and this is based on very recent data – it seems these patients are expelling LEFT OVER MATERIALS from their lungs, as PART OF THE RECOVERY PHASE."
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Amen !!!

Once again, if such a statement were to be uttered by **YOU**, being a common man known simply as "Jim Humble" (i.e. 'people do test POSITIVE and the viral load shoots UP as a SIGN/PART of their RECOVERY'), you can bet your last dollar that the WORLD would go nuts in absolute disgust at your suggestion of SUCH AN IRONIC IDEA with a DIRECT self-contradicting philosophy, let alone the idea being regarded true, scientifically-plausible or even PROBABLE ! And if your name was indeed "Jim Humble" . . . you'd simply be CRUCIFIED for coming up with such an ironic philosophy & claim ! But if it is the World Health Organization coming up with SUCH an idea (EXACT SAME ironic and self-contradicting idea/explanation) . . . the idea is simply PLAUSIBLE & BRILLIANT, LOL . . . this world is so amazing hey !

if the W.H.O. itself openly acknowledges the EXISTENCE of the controversial Herxheimer reaction, even on a life-threatening viral disease such as Covid-19, are you STILL SCARED and terrified of the MMS side effects ??

Assuming that you had Hepatitis or perhaps HIV/AIDS, what would you personally do, if as soon as you take MMS, your viral load test came back with numbers in the Millions or Tens of Millions ??

Would you STOP/quit MMS or become so scared that you end up instantly going BACK to your ARVs, or would you continue with MMS and ONLY count/trust on how WELL you feel ??

And what about the W.H.O. suggesting that people who STILL test POSITIVE after RECOVERY from coronavirus should simply be dismissed as "a fluke" since they are {apparently} cured and they are in fact NO MORE infectious . . . yep, this BOLD claim was made with NO scientific proof WHATSOEVER to back it up => "Don't worry about testing POSITIVE AFTER recovery... it's just a fluke" ??

If you were a doctor and you met a patient who "claimed" to you that she has RECOVERED from coronavirus or some other viral disease, and then you decide to TEST her but her test-results come back POSITIVE, would you simply BELIEVE that the patient's result is **just a fluke** ??

LOL, I'd like to hear from you :) :)
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The W.H.O. acknowledges the existence Herxheimer reaction 13 May 2020 00:17 #64166

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Tanzania sent samples from a goat, a pheasant, and a papaya to WHO for testing. All 3 came back positive for cv19!!! :>)

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The W.H.O. acknowledges the existence Herxheimer reaction 13 May 2020 06:59 #64171

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paul wrote: Tanzania sent samples from a goat, a pheasant, and a papaya to WHO for testing. All 3 came back positive for cv19!!! :>)


Ye. I remember watching the video of president John Pombe Magufuli on YouTube addressing the Tanzanian nation, and the video had to be recorded in Swahili just to prevent it from being censored by the YouTube/Google tyranny. The W.H.O. and their allies are a bunch of sinister people who are out to dictate standards, procedures and clinical processes to the WORLD, yet they failed to apply these same standards in an effective manner to prevent the catastrophic spread of Covid 19 in the U.S. They are a very questionable organization ! I am NOT surprised that the U.S. government has decided to cut its ties with the W.H.O.

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the Re-Infection paradox again, being acknowledged YET again by the W.H.O.

www.naturalnews.com/2020-05-18-who-inadvertently-admits-vaccinations-wont-work-against-coronavirus.html

FIRST they said re-infection is a "fluke", now they say there is No proof that vaccines will protect against re-infection !! The whole problem with vaccines is their limited "strain-specific" application. Vaccines cannot withstand multiple emerging mutations (new strains) of a virus or bacteria !! Just like with flu vaccines, you will now be required to take ONE vaccine today and then 2 months later you'll have to take a NEW vaccine to deal with a NEW strain/mutation of the same virus. Basically you're stuck for YEARRSS chasing a moving target !

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