TOPIC:

1. In the workbook it calls for 4% HCl, and in the video Mark calls for 5%. What difference does it make?

2. I split the difference and did 4.5% and ended up with 2500 ppm CD.
a) I read that it should be 3,000. What might I be doing wrong?
b) I've also read that 2,500 is acceptable. Is stronger better?

3volver, you are cooking CDS right?
Did you use distilled water? Distilled water is not a must but tap water can affect PPM.
Another explanation could be old or degraded MMS, or old/degraded sodium chlorite the MMS was made of. Or maybe degraded HCL. Or an error in the amount of water used. Or maybe some CLO2 escaped in the process of making CDS?

Stronger is not necessarily better. The pro's have come up with standard receipts so we all know how much chlorine dioxide is in our dose. Very handy and necessary because now you know you should add 1/6th more of your CDS to your hourly doses.

Correct me if I'm wrong ClO2. Just doing my best so you can have a day off

We are in need of a couple more somewhat experienced volunteers to assist in answering questions from newcomers. Feel free to jump in!

To clarify:
My question about percentages is in reference to making the activator - diluting muriatic acid.
My question about ppm is in reference to making MMS1.

I made the sodium chlorite solution from 80% flakes mixed with DS.
I'm using distilled water.

3volver wrote:

My question about ppm is in reference to making MMS1.

What were you measuring the PPM with?

LaMotte CD test strips

A normal 3 drop activated MMS dose contains only 10% of total available chlorine dioxide. The rest in the glass is water and yet to be activated NaClO2 and HCL. I'm guessing you can't measure the amount of chlorine dioxide correctly in this concoction.
I may be wrong but this is why I assumed you were making CDS. Because that is only chlorine dioxide dissolved in water.

Martin, your answers are right on! Thanks.

3volver, I doubt you can resolve CLO2 ppm using test strips from say, 2500 to 3000 ppm. Test strips are just not capable of anything other than a ballpark indication of CLO2 concentration. You would have to use a photometer for more precise measurements.

If you are measuring CLO2 ppm of a 3 drop MMS1 dose activated for 30 seconds with 4% HCL and then added to 120 ml of water, the reading should be about 20 ppm.

The difference between 4% HCL and 5% HCL is not 1%, it is 20%, a significant difference. I believe it was Mark who came up with the idea of using 5% HCL. I have not seen any testing results for using 5% over 4% HCL. It was Andreas Kalcker who said we should use 4% HCL.

And Mark's version of CDH also is lacking any testing results, whereas Scott's original CDH formula was the result of 6 months of testing by Scott and me. Scott's CDH was designed so each milliliter of it would be made from 1 drop (0.042 ml drop size) of MMS, the same as making a 1 drop dose of MMS1.

Mark is also still saying that 1 ml of both CDS and CDH equals a 3 drop MMS1 dose. That is not possible because 1 ml of CDS and CDH both contain 3 mg of CLO2 (externally-not in stomach acid) while a 3 drop dose of MMS1 (externally-not in stomach acid) contains 2.4 mg CLO2.

Internally, in normal stomach acid, CDS is still 3 mg, CDH is 6 mg and MMS1 is 20 mg. How can 1 ml of CDS and CDH be the same as a 3 drop MMS1 dose in a stomach? They can't be the same.

The idea that 1=3 is a reason that CDS and CDH seem 'weak' compared to MMS1. That wrong 1=3 statement has been around for years and no one wants to correct it, although Jim has written that CDH probably has more CLO2 than previously thought.

We can measure CLO2 ppm externally but internally we assume ideal conditions, such as adequate amounts of stomach acid, and then calculate the amounts of CLO2 that should be released from residual MMS in CDH and MMS1 by stomach acid. CDS of course, has no residual MMS and therefore can not increase (nor will it decrease) in ppm in the presence of stomach acid.