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My MMS1 solution does not smell and does not give an amber cloud 09 Mar 2018 09:27 #57858

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Hi,
I got my 25% NaClO2 and 4% HCl from a chemical company and wanted to start today. When mixing the solution stayed clear. It tired 5 drops and 10 drops just to test and waited 3up to 2 mins and nothing happened and no smell either.

I contacted the supplier and asked what is wrong and he replied:
With the chemical reaction you are describing the outcome is chlorinedioxide in a clear watery solution.
Only if one of the materials are not clean or if it contains stabilizers those substances 'burn' and give a colouring.

Now I am very confused bcs. from what I read the amber color is a MUST and also it does smell when mixed?

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My MMS1 solution does not smell and does not give an amber cloud 09 Mar 2018 20:47 #57865

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OKF, something is wrong.

You have 25% NaCLO2 so that is a water solution of sodium chlorite. Can you give us a link to that product and the one for 4% HCL?

When you put say, 10 drops of the NaCLO2 into a clean, dry glass container and then add 10 drops of 4% HCL on top of the NaCLO2 drops and mix a little bit, nothing happens?

If you have a lemon, try mixing 10 drops of NaCLO2 and 50 drops of freshly squeezed lemon juice and see what happens. Do not add any water.

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My MMS1 solution does not smell and does not give an amber cloud 11 Mar 2018 11:36 #57888

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shop.algingmbh.com/de/Chemie/Natriumchlorit-500-ml-Braunglasflasche
shop.algingmbh.com/de/Salzsaeure-4-chemisch-rein-500ml-Glasflasche-Lebensmittelzusatz-E-507

as I said before the chemist of that shop who I also talked to confirms that the colouring not come if the material is free of any 'unclean' substances. He is aware of MMS and he uses it himself but he only uses the NACLO2 without acid as we have acid in our stomach. However I have no clue.

So I have no lemon but I have this Lime stuff in a lime-plastic look-a-like bottle and it say 20% lime an d the citric acid (concentration unknown)...but I tired to mix 10:50 and it turn yellow, not amber but really yellow and I can smell some chlorine.

So what can you conclude from this? The HCL is not HCL or so? Any way to test HCL?

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My MMS1 solution does not smell and does not give an amber cloud 11 Mar 2018 12:08 #57890

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You can just take MMS without activator and let stomach acid do the activating and release CLO2.

But, if your MMS won't activate externally, it won't in your stomach, either.

To test with a lemon, you will need to buy one at the grocery store. I doubt using a lemon will give an amber color, but you should smell some CLO2 gas. If you test with lemon juice from a lemon and get results, then it would seem your 4% HCL is bad. I do not know any way to test HCL.

Your lime drink test seems to validate that your 25% NaCLO2 may be okay.

A question just came to mind - how pure is your NaCLO2? MMS is made from 80% NaCLO2 powder/flakes. I am thinking your NaCLO2 solution may be made from higher quality NaCLO2. Ask your supplier.

What bothers me is that you do not smell CLO2 gas when using the 4% HCL to activate your 25% NaCLO2 solution. Your supplier's comments on the color of the mix may be correct, or not. If there is activation and you smell CLO2 gas, I would think CLO2 gas would show a color in MMS1 you made.

When making CDS only CLO2 gas goes into water solution and there is a lot of yellow color.

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My MMS1 solution does not smell and does not give an amber cloud 11 Mar 2018 12:58 #57892

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Hi again, sorry I am confused. You say the NACLO2 could be faulty but then yopu say my test shows it is not? The test proves to me it is fine as I also could smell chlorine. The supplier confirmed to me it is 25% purified solution when I asked him about the 222,4 and 25%.

I think the HCL is not okay for some reason. I put it on chalk and absolutely no reaction at all. HCL disolves chalk. I will go back to the suplier with this knowledge.

However I will start with MMS only. So should I do it the way Jim Humble explains it for the preparation Protocoll = ¼ drop per hour or the way you did?

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My MMS1 solution does not smell and does not give an amber cloud 11 Mar 2018 15:16 #57896

OKF Topic Author Offline New Member Posts: 11 Thank you received: 6	PS: I did mix the HCl 5:1 with water and tested it on my tongue, no acidity etc. and the 2:1 = no acidity and then pure as it is and no acidity really more or less like water. I assume you have some sort of a feel and taste when when u put HCl on your tongue? If not it may be 0,4% HCl...
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My MMS1 solution does not smell and does not give an amber cloud 11 Mar 2018 20:06 #57900

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It would be interesting to know what happens if you try activating your 25% NaCLO2 with lemon juice. It does seem there is a problem with your 4% HCL.

To take MMS internally unactivated, you can read this forum thread on the process. Yes, you could follow the Starting Procedure by adding 1 drop of NaCLO2 to some water, then discard 3/4 of that solution to get a 1/4 drop dose. Do the same process for 1/2 drop and 3/4 drop doses.

If you are a purist, measure out one drop to the standard Jim Humble now uses which is 20 drops/ml of solution. Therefore, one drop is 0.05 ml which can be metered out using a 1 ml syringe.

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My MMS1 solution does not smell and does not give an amber cloud 11 Mar 2018 20:43 #57904

akdamcn Offline New Member Posts: 1 Thank you received: 0	I purchased 2 MMS Kits from G2 Church #50. Neither set produces the amber color, just a light clear yellow but does have the chlorine smell. I contacted the supplier with no response. I've also requested some input from another Church #?? and Jim Humble but no response from those sources either. Is there a responsible supplier out there that can be trusted?
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My MMS1 solution does not smell and does not give an amber cloud 11 Mar 2018 23:32 #57906

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