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Can you take Turpentine while on MMS or should I wait for after hours?

You can activate MMS1 with any acid that will work to release CLO2 in MMS. That solution can be ingested or used topically.

Personally, for external use I use undiluted CDS.

I don't know if I'm doing this right. I have been pushing myself too hard the last week. I get so tired and so nauseous. But I really try to push it to handle as many drops as I can an hour. This is week #2, on Saturday it will be 2 weeks. The Book I have says for people with Lyme disease to take as much as I can handle. I have been going with 6 drops an hour and for 10-14 hours a day, but its too harsh and so I will cut back to 4 drops an hour and stay there for a while. Perhaps smaller doses for longer would be better. Too much die off with larger doses. It seems when things die off it makes the symptoms worse? Right after I drink it I feel the constant tightness i have in my head start getting tighter and all my aches and pains get worse temporarily since its scraping up the bacteria.

This is a systemic Lyme or tick borne illness. Its in my joints, my head, my eyes, my skin, my blood, everywhere! I also may have been exposed to black mold, other types of mold/fungus, and could also possibly have parasites but I can't tell. Lyme is so good at mimicking other diseases. I wish I was able to find people who have gotten rid of Lyme disease with MMS so I can ask them what they did and they can answer some of the questions I have. I tried to start another post for that but no one has replied last I checked. I read the whole Ebook that That Roi wrote and I have questions not answered in the book.

I just want this thing to be gone it has ruined my body and my life. That's why I have pushed so hard so fast, but now I'm realizing its too strenuous on my body.

I am taking the MMS1, but on Monday I should receive my MMS2 (Calcium Hypochlorite) tablets so hopefully when I start taking that it will help boost my immune system. I also bought a bag of Bentonite clay just in case I have any fungus/mold.
I also bought some DMSO 70%, Diatomaceous Earth, and Turpentine. I have been taking the turpentine with sugar cubes at night.

Sometimes I get worried that the MMS is not going to work. Or I start questioning if the MMS is working at all. But I guess it is because I feel so nauseous and sick when I take big doses, and the book says that is a sign it is working?

Three Golden Rules of MMS

2. Your body knows best…You just have to learn to listen to it! Anytime you are experiencing nausea, diarrhea, vomiting, or excessive tiredness, and/or are feeling worse than your illness is already making you, reduce your MMS intake by half and then when the sickness subsides, build back up slowly. Continuing to increase your dosage when you are feeling sicker is a common mistake. Don't let it happen to you! More is not always better. Listen to your body!

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I'm starting to learn the importance of going slower. I think I fully understand now. The last week felt like I was run over by a truck every single day, my punishment for overdoing it. Sometimes I am forced to learn things the hard way. There was my body telling me time to slow down, but there was my mind telling me just take as much as you can and get rid of it quicker. Until finally I felt like the walking dead, and a rash appeared on both arms and my sides.

I was unaware of Lyme bacteria/co-infection's ability to release endotoxins as they die off. So I found out what that feels like. So I finally came to a halt from going at that speed and dosage any further. I'll get there eventually. In one way I look at all that as a good thing because the herxheimer reaction is a good indication that it is working and finally something is killing this thing off.

It's been 4 weeks and I still have all my symptoms. I keep wondering if there's something I'm doing wrong. But then again I'm still getting major herxheimer reaction when I take larger doses. Anytime I go past 3-4 drops I seem to get it. So maybe I should just keep going and see how things are after another a few more months. If this is Lyme disease with co-infections I may have had this for 10+ years. And Its chronic now so there must be a lot to kill off. I'm not taking antioxidants during my protocol. I stay positive and I do a lot of meditation and basically everything I can do to keep a positive rate of vibration in my attitude. But maybe with this disease it just takes a heck of a lot longer than others?

Maybe I have not yet been able to push through the biofilm it hides in yet. Every time I start a protocol at higher doses I get really tired, and many times really nauseous. And I feel my whole head and sinuses tighten up, and I was thinking it might be tons of little bacterium clustering together in biofilms in my sinuses and around my head. Because when I start the MMS it's filling my blood with oxygen and there aren't many places they can go without dying off. I have constant pre-nasal drip that won't go away. That might be giving them enough biofilm protection to hide out without being killed even when I take the MMS. But it seems when I go up to much higher dosages I can feel A LOT going on in my sinuses and in my head. Maybe when I can finally get up to 10-12 drops an hour it will push through this biofilm?

But I have these moments where I am always second guessing myself thinking maybe the bacteria is just reproducing everything I'm killing off day after day and I'm not really getting anywhere. But if everyone else has been able to get rid of it I don't see why I should be an exception. I try not to think that way though. I guess I should just keep trekking forward another couple months and see if there is at least some improvement... Staying Hopeful...

What do you think of this?

I think you are still overdosing, trying to increase too fast. Slow down and wait for small improvements. This process could take a long time, maybe a year? And, remember the Three Golden Rules:

In Brief…
Three Golden Rules of MMS
1 Getting better? Do not change anything. Continue with what you are doing.
2 Feeling worse? Reduce your MMS intake by 50%.
3 Not getting better/not getting worse? If there are no signs of improvement, do the next increase or go to the next protocol according to the HRP.

Try some of the additional protocols. There are over 50 protocols in Jim's latest book.

Yes, biofilms could be a problem. Eventually you will break them up.

What's the latest book?

The Recovery Guide one? Will he be releasing that on ebook again anytime soon? His ebook store has been down a while...

Hello Adam/Nighshades

I think you'll find you have candida, as does much of america

look here;
www.thecandidadiet.com/candida-symptoms/

it came to me from too many antibiotics along with some foods I was eating and poof, I started to swell up like a cow. and I had it for so long, it wasn't until I seen a special on ch11 about farmers and cows, di I know they were fattening up the cows by putting antibiotics in the feed !
Then I just presumed it was related to weight gain, after that I found out I presumed wrong that it was related to candida/fungus/yeasts etc

[ know thecause.com ] is another place to go to get a handle on what exactly you have and options to fight it the best you see fit

so, at least checkout the 2 sites, then you can come back to jims book on the protocols......and you likely should start out small and work your way up. But you got a lot of checking up on stuff to do first

and I got rid of my brainfog prior to knowing about mms, by drinking turpentine and sugar 1 tsp of each, thanks to jennifer daniels, but there is always more than one way to get things done.....just be sure about how to proceded and I reco keeping a journal, so you can track your progress and remember dosages etc....you'll be glad you did !