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Please does anyone know how to counter the effects of taking too much CDS. I've been so nausea and cramps and just feel so so terrible. This happened to me a few weeks back with mms when I must have hit a herx reaction at 19 drops mms without incidence prior and then all of a sudden a gradual increase in feeling sick one day until vomiting all night long with diarrhea. Same thing is happening again only this time with CDS. I've been making cds from 24 drops mms plus 24 drops citric acid 50% letting it infuse over night into the water from a plastic lid. I noticed the it calls for a quart and i was infusing it into 500ml! Have I poisoned myself?? Please anyone, any help is greatly appreciated and fast! I'm even so desperate that I am contemplating taking gravol. Thank you.

Take lots of Vitamin-C, that should work.

Baking soda might work if you don't have any Vitamin-C.

I am curious where you got the CDS recipe. 1 ml of MMS plus 1 ml of 50% citric acid infused into 500 ml of distilled water should not make a very strong CDS.

Have you seen this recipe ?

Rochelle, dont worry too much as cds is weaker from mms1and sometimes i am taking 20ml in a big glass of water cds with strength 3000 and nothing bad is happening so dont worry the herx reaction is smaller from mms1

CHRISSTINIS, CDS is not "weaker" than MMS1, it has been underdosed by a factor of 6 for years.

That is now changing. See this information.

• CDH/S and MMS Protocols-1
• CDH/S and MMS Protocols-2
• Equating MMS1, CDH, CDS
• CDS, CDH and Protocols

In the final version of Jim's new book, you will see a correct MMS1 equivalent dosing chart for CDS and CDH.

CLO2 i had realised that cds was underdosed for years and as you are the inventor of cdh and i had the hapiness to compare your CDH with lactic acid which is giving more strength and is more durable this strength and much more better taste compared with the CDH WITH CITRIC ACID OR HYDROCLORIC ACID i would say thar CDH with lactic acid is the best from any angle.

CHRISSTINIS, Scott McRae (TruthQuester) was the inventor of CDH and I helped test it for him. We worked together for about 6 months before coming up with the final recipe.

I have not used lactic acid as an activator, although I have heard that it works with MMS. Thanks for your input on using that acid.

Oh wow, I am alive!! That was one bad night! Again!! Seriously, what the heck happened because the whole reason I took CDS instead of mms is because I was under the impression herx was near impossible if following the protocols? I'm following protocol 1000, but obviously the way cds is made has changed since I last looked from drops to ml?? I used drops however. From the common blue and green bottles mms is sold in. I bought my SC bulk in powder form over a year ago because it was getting tough to get a Canadian source and I never ever want to run out. I'm a dedicated user & use it daily, so I am baffled as to how such a fierce reaction can occur? I took CDS with food in stomach and kombucha to ensure stability and took it hourly. On day 3 this is the reaction I got. Will vitamin C even work if it is long past when I last took a dose? It began mid day with some slight gut cramps seemingly and at that point I stopped taking CDS because I recognized the familiar feeling of this from last time with the MMS. But as the day went on it got progressively worse. To the point of fierce nausea. If it wasn't for those 3 gravols I took I feel I would have endured another evening of vomiting and bile dry heaves that left me depleted for days. As well as a scared and then later angry husband. I wasn't even able to care for our daughter, which is not okay.

I have a 7 month old baby I am nursing. Throughout my pregnancy I took maintenance dose of mms every day 3 drops morning and same in evening. She was born super alert and is uncommonly shiny and healthy. I felt I had to to keep my health issue in my larynx/thyroid at bay during pregnancy, which resulted from a really bad case of strep in 2010 that I left untreated until it managed to infect a node in my thyroid creating a highly infectious and painful abscess that I can't remember what is called, so I felt I had to take antibiotics and I had forgotten about the powers of mms. Infection just came back after completing antibiotics. They put me on another stronger dose after and same thing. I never take antibiotics anymore bbecause I have mms!! Had to rebuild my health and gut biome after. Healthy as can be except this little bugger! So I have been trying for years to get up to 24 drops and complete protocol 1000, but have only managed to get to 19 and then major herx reaction resulting in my need to stop for a whole week & then i have to start over. I began to seriously take it and go the course at the beginning of January. It took until mid february to get to 19 drops over 8 hours. I'm going to order Jim humbles newest ebook, it seems things have progressed and more collective knowledge is available. Why would this reaction occur? I have seen & have the recipe you've shared and am overwhelmed by the math and measurements since I am terrible at numbers. I have to find a drop measuring device to make this by the ml now. I don't know where to begin again now and what I did wrong to create this reaction with the CDS. If I wait too long the infection comes back and I'm unable to clear my throat easily, coughing lots in morning from post nasel drip and my thyroid and larynx gets quite painful. I did nose drops as well and inhalation during my pregnancy to keep infection at bay. I'm really desperate to understand and follow the proper and safe protocol that will not put me into a herx and then do maintenance dose for always. I wish to the heavens above I had vitamin C in the house last night!!! Would it of even worked since it was 6 hours after I took the last dose and it crept in very slowly and lasted all night long. The day previous I had a haze headache since the morning, but figured it was a die off headache. This was only my third day on CDS 24 drops activated and infused into the water over a 12 hour period. I'm so confused. I recommend to a lot of people to take mms due to my healing work with autistic and beyond kids and I cannot do that in good faith until I figure this out. Any tips, pointers, direction or advice is greatly appreciated. Sorry this is all over the place, but it took the whole day to write with my duties and baby and regaining some strength from my enduring night. Thank you also to all you wonderful folks for answering my plea for help. With Gratitude.

Rochelle, I may have an answer for you on why you all of a sudden had a big Herx after days of no Herxing.

While proof-reading a section of Jim's new book tonight, I read where he talks about biofilms.

But then when taking the same dosage you have been accustomed to, and you all of a sudden get sick with a Herxheimer reaction, chances are you broke through a biofilm.

The die-off of the pathogens hits you in one big burst, which causes the Herxheimer reaction. The good news is, you are then able to get rid of the toxins that have been causing you problems and your body can heal.

You may want to pickup a bottle of L.E.T. Vitamin-C or make some, in case this happens again. Last week I was taking CDS and started Herxing. I took 1 tablespoon of my home-made L.E.T. Vitamin-C and the Herxing almost immediately stopped.

When you have time, tell us how you are making MMS and then CDS plus dosing CDS. Thanks.

CLO2 thank you for this detail about Scott McRae and i start using more CDH with activator 21% lactic acid as it is more strong and has much more better taste and has less herx reaction and is keeping more energized clo2 in the bottle from the other cdh types and i beleive that you must check it.