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Hulda Clark Vs advanced Andreas Kalker / Kerri Rivera protocol 24 Mar 2016 21:25 #51599

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I want to thank everybody for getting me thru the starting procedures and the 21 days of MMS!

I do feel better and some of my issues have cleared up. I learned a lot and I intend to keep using some of the protocols even if I am not on a full dose every hour. My wife's allergies are much better and her rash on her foot is almost gone. She will finish her 21 days in about 10 days from now, and she likes the improvements she is seeing.

I never did see any parasites to speak of, but I'm going to pursue that avenue a bit further and if I detect anything, I may come back to the more serious protocols of Kerri Rivera/ Andreas Kalker if the situation seems to warrant it.

My problem with my neck is more of an osteo arthritis type of thing and is not really responding to the MMS. The DMSO however may save the day if I can figure out what sort of ingredients I can mix with the DMSO to drive it into the cartilidge where it will do some good. The prostate is doing better and there is no aching as before. Seems to be fully functional too! :)

In the meantime, I'm going with the Hulda Clark parasite cleanse. Not because it's better, but mostly because it's easier and more affordable. I really can't afford to go to a doctor for any of this and some of their protocols would need a prescription.

I'm still open to suggestions, and I want to thank you all again for your input!

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Hulda Clark Vs advanced Andreas Kalker / Kerri Rivera protocol 24 Mar 2016 21:56 #51602

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I believe Kerri gives links to meds needed for the Kalcker Parasite cleanse in her book. My understanding is that all of those meds are available online.

Thanks for your testimonials!
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Hulda Clark Vs advanced Andreas Kalker / Kerri Rivera protocol 25 Mar 2016 05:58 #51608

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Not trying to sound too radical or completely "out there" but this is what I would try on my neck with OA in a situation like yours.
I would go to a feed store (if in US, Tractor Supply is a great place to go) and I would get few tubes of Ivermectin for horses - deworming medication. It is reasonably cheap and offers many uses and applications. I would try to get the gel type rather than cream but over all it doesn't matter.
I would apply the Ivermectin topically together with DMSO once a day (or more often if needed) on the problematic area until healed. You may be pleasantly surprised.
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Hulda Clark Vs advanced Andreas Kalker / Kerri Rivera protocol 25 Mar 2016 18:09 #51616

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CLO2,

I wanted to reply to your comment about getting the ingredients necessary for the Kalker protocol.


• Mebendazole (32-36) and Pyrantel Pamoate (Combantrin®) (30, 31) are the two heavy hittters on the list.

The Mebendazole is a little tricky to find over the counter in the USA without a prescription. Maybe the Pyrantel Pamoate (Combantrin) is a little easier. I think the Pyrantel Pamoate is made from Papaya seeds, but I'm guessing. I would maybe ask my old doctor for a prescription for these, but he would only give me a strange look and a hard time and If I pushed it he would want about $1000.00 in test results. Then he might say yes.

There could be some veterinary sources ?

If you know of any sources of these, especially the Mebendazole, I would like to know. The Andreas Kalker protocol relies pretty heavily on that one.

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Hulda Clark Vs advanced Andreas Kalker / Kerri Rivera protocol 25 Mar 2016 18:20 #51617

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Libortx,

Thank you so much for your help. But I wanted to ask you if you had any personal experience with this Ivermectin for people?


I would probably want to have a little more infromation too. The DMSO is a great idea if you don't get too much.

I have been ingesting small 9 drop doses for about 2 weeks without any bad reactions, but I was drinking it in water.

So if you know how much DMSO to add to the Ivermectin, and you've used it on yourself or a friend, that would be very helpful to know about?

Thanks again!

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Hulda Clark Vs advanced Andreas Kalker / Kerri Rivera protocol 26 Mar 2016 04:39 #51623

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My wife and I have been using Ivermectin (from the source I mentioned) as well as other anthelmintic medications from there for some time now, orally as well as topically. I am not in a position to write a protocol but I studied the subject as much as I could. The results have been encouraging. For example the chronic swelling of my right leg finally went away, after 17 years. All that time I was told it was a bad circulation or possibly bed kidney or liver when in fact it was a parasite (probably some kind of roundworm) that my body was trying to fight off.
Assuming that pretty much all diseases are in fact manifestations of parasites (why we have so many now and why it's not being addressed, that is another topic), you can try to remedy yourself with MMS and natural herbal substances, diet and possibly zapper. Unfortunately many times that is not enough.
I learned a lot from Hana Blahova (a practitioner in Czech Republic). She loves MMS, she dropped the zapper and plasma treatments and she is relying on anthelmintics heavily. She also partially works with Andreas Kalcker.

I did not recommend pre-mixing Ivermectin with DMSO. I was talking about topical application of the gel and then to spray DMSO on top of it and massage it all in.

Good source of Mebendazole and Albendazole (that I consider superior) is from Mexico if you have such option.

Pyrantel - Tractor Supply.

Careful though. If you suspect tapeworm infestation, that protocol from Andreas is not for you and you need to look elsewhere. Albendazole would work but Niclosamide may be even better.

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Hulda Clark Vs advanced Andreas Kalker / Kerri Rivera protocol 26 Mar 2016 07:36 #51624

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Here is a list of parasite protocol ingredient suppliers (2012).
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Hulda Clark Vs advanced Andreas Kalker / Kerri Rivera protocol 26 Mar 2016 19:47 #51625

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Libortx, and friends,

Is there a blood test or some easy and cheap test that can detect the presence of parasites? Did anyone ever get a blood test or some kind of test to see if they could figure out what sort of parasite might be present?

Libortx, --

Your comments are much appreciated. It sounds like you had some success with the Ivermectin, and if the Hulda Clark remedies with the green black walnut hulls, cloves and "super W blend" do not bring relief, I will certainly give the Ivermectin a try topically. Thanks so much for the details of how to use it.!

But since I have already ordered and paid for the Hulda Clark parasite cleanse, I think I should go ahead and give it a try. It seems to be a fairly wide spectrum anti-helmintic protocol and has a loyal following. I think it's much simpler than The Andreas Kalker protocol.

Also, there is an additional Hulda Clark protocol for tapeworm if that is something I can detect somehow. ???

I really do not suspect a tape worm, and I am still trying to understand that there is always a helminth lurking somewhere for every ailment, but then again, I am very new at this and anything is possible.

Are you saying that the Andrew Kalker protocol is somehow going to cause a problem if in fact there is a tapeworm?

It sounds like there would be plenty of opportunity to pick up something with all the traveling and strange foods that I have had to ingest over the years. Plenty of trouble in the past and I have never had the time or inclination to pursue these possibilites until I retired a couple of vears ago. But with that said, I really can't point to any major problems like cancer or anything , so I am pretty lucky to just have a sore upper back!

I will try and keep everyone updated. I just recieved my Hulda Clark kit today, so it will be a few days before I wouild expect to see any results.

I watched some of Hulda Clark's videos on You Tube and it looks like she had her act together in a very big way. Her protocols may be more aimed at cancer than anything else, but an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure as they say.
There may still be practiotioners that use her methods around? Still ahead of most western medicine as far as accuracy in a diagnosis is concerned.

I really should get her books too and see what else I am missing.

That would be a huge help.

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Hulda Clark Vs advanced Andreas Kalker / Kerri Rivera protocol 27 Mar 2016 12:27 #51631

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Hello,
This will answer your question:

www.andreaskalcker.com/en/health/parasite/116-parasite.html

"This treatment is specially designed for the deworming of large parasites, especially round nematodes such as Ascaris. It is effective for most nematodes but may not be effective against tapeworms. In the case of infestation by Tenias the treatment recommended is Niclosamide, being the medication preffered for its low toxicity."

As far as testing for parasites, I am very skeptical. Main stream medicine will never find the cause of the problem and in fact it is not interested in finding it. According to Andreas, only 1% of stool samples that they send to the lab (from children with obvious physical visual evidence of parasites - I mean worms in the stool) will be tested as positive. I would not put my life on such testing and rather stay with Hulda Clarck's research showing parasites being responsible. And if you don't have any (I doubt) , oh well. Every culture made sure to do regular or preventive deworming at least twice a year. Only people in the "modern world" are being brain washed by big farma that they have no parasites. Of course, it is much more lucrative to run chemo or radiation on often purposely misdiagnosed brain tumor than do 30 days Albendazole treatment to resolve tapeworm cysts in the head. It is sick.

and this very, very eye opening video that will answer more questions that you may have:
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