Bladder Infection

I just found out I have a bladder infection. I've been using MMS orally and via enema for a long time, so I'm disappointed to have this. Would douching with MMS be good for a bladder infection, or not really, since it doesn't really go to the bladder?

It is worth trying douching with CLO2 (CDS).

Douche Protocol

Let us know if it works for you.

Thanx, CLO2. These instructions about CDH externally vs. internally left me a little bit confused. For my enemas, I use 33ml CDH. How many drops of MMS1 does that translate to?

Sorry about the confusion. I have since uploaded a newer version of that douche protocol which is simpler to read.

As usual, start with low doses in the douche bag and increase the dose a little each time.

If you have not done a CDS douche before, I suggest to start lower than 33 ml of CDS and work up until you think you can go no higher.

Thank you, CLO2. But I am using CDH, not CDS. So, since you were making a distinction between using it internally vs. externally (by which I presume you mean taking it orally vs. not orally), for enemas, if I'm using 33 ml CDH, how many drops MMS1 does that translate to?

The protocol says that much higher doses of CDS can be used in a douche compared to MMS1. The reason is because MMS1 is only about 10% activated externally where CDH is 50% activated externally and CDS is fully activated. So, if using MMS1 for douching, you would have to use a very large number of MMS drops and that would cause discomfort.

Douching with CDH is more effective than using MMS1 and CDS is more effective than using CDH. If you do not get the results you are looking for using CDH, then I suggest you use CDS. If you are making CDH, you can also make CDS. You just need different containers to make CDS.

As the protocol states, start low and the suggestion is to start with 5 ml and increase each douche. As noted in the protocol, some ladies have been able to go as high as 50 ml of CDS, which would be the same amount if CDH was used. But, you may experience discomfort when using CDH because it is not fully activated and contains some unactivated MMS and activator.

However, if your CDH was made with 4% HCL or 50% citric acid and was made longer than 2 weeks ago, there may not be any residual MMS remaining. If so, then you may be able to use higher doses of CDH without discomfort.

Here is a case where one sodium chlorite solution is better suited for a particular application; CDS would be the best choice for douching if high amounts are required to get satisfactory results.

Hope that clarifies this question.

Thanks, CLO2. Realistically, I can't see myself using CDS, but I do use CDH. What do you think would be the equivalent of 33 ml CDH in MMS1 drops if used in an enema or douche?

Hi Tely.

The short answer to your question is that 231 drops of activated MMS would provide about the same amount of CLO2 as 33 ml of CDH when used "externally" (not ingested) which would apply when used for a douche or enema.

The long answer follows.

It is interesting to compare the two Douche Protocols the G2C publishes. One is from the 2015 Seminar Workbook, posted here by the G2C and which I have also posted at www.MMSinfo.org . The other, most recent, is in Jim's new book, Health Recovery Instruction Manual .

In the latter, only MMS1 is used and says to start with a 5 drop dose of MMS1, progressing up to a maximum dosage of 30 drops.

It gets a little technical to fully answer your question.

Since Jim has said the maximum number of MMS1 drops for use with the Douche Protocol is 30 drops, and if we are going to assume that it is the CLO2 in those drops that we want to use, then we need to calculate how much CLO2 will be available in those 30 drops of MMS1.

A few years ago I tested MMS1 using different acid activators to find the amount of CLO2 in a 3 drop dose at various activation times. One of those tests showed the results using MMS plus 50% citric acid activated for 30 seconds, the current recommended activation time for MMS1. 1.5 mg of CLO2 was measured. Therefore each drop of MMS would produce 0.5 mg of CLO2 under the above testing conditions.

30 drops of activated MMS, the maximum allowed in the book version of the Douche Protocol, would contain 15 mg of CLO2.

Your CDH, if made according to the original McRae/Lackney recipe should contain about 3.5 mg of CLO2 per milliliter.

Your present enema dosing of 33 ml of CDH would contain 115.5 mg of CLO2. For MMS1 made as described above to provide the same amount of CLO2, a 231 drop dose would be required.

Wow, CLO2 -- that's nuts! So I've been using the equivalent of 231 drops of MMS1 every day in my enema for the last 17 months! I feel like there must be some mistake in all this, but I don't know what/how. In any case, I will go much lower on the dosage for douching. Thank you!

It does seem strange, I know. Most people think that MMS is fully activated at 30 seconds, but it is only about 7 to 10% activated externally and the rest is supposed to happen with stomach acid. Most people do have adequate stomach acid to do the job, but not everyone, like me. I don't digest food very well at all and I am trying to build up beneficial gut bacteria using various fermented foods.

Scott (TruthQuester) could not "stomach" MMS1 and is why he and I developed CDH from his original research. We spent 6 months or so testing CDH to arrive at the current recipe. By the way, the 4% HCL CDH recipe will be effective for about 2 weeks and then the residual MMS seems to disappear. Using 2% HCL to make CDH results in a 2 month life span.

You can increase your CDH douche dosing until you experience discomfort. Let us know at what dosage that occurs. There have been a couple of autistic children who have ingested a whole 240 ml bottle of CDH per day!