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hi , i am lookin online to buy mms and some dmso as i hhave run out and i used to buy it from mmsgreenlife but im aware they are no longer able to sell it and they are some trouble over this as it would seem , there stuff was great ive seen on many websites now that there are like red flag messages and you cannot buy it on certain sites and get directed on to others ect ....... i dont know which to trust really and was wondering where to buy it from now recommened by others hopefully , i got dmso and the mms from greenlife and was cheap lasted long time .

thanks

At the top of this page you will find a link to approved sellers of MMS products: "Buy MMS".

Why not buy the flakes and make it yourself? It's really easy. sodiumchloriteshop.com/ or chemicalstore.com/
You need to buy a gram scale (available at all kitchen stores, it's a very small scale, buy the cheapest, about 5. dollars USA.)
Then buy HCl at www.sciencecompany.com/Search.aspx?k=10%25+hydrochloric+acid they sell it at 10% solution for $6. , so just use half the drops to get a solution of 4%.
Get DMSO at the hardware store.

Thanks Dawna. Here is a YouTube link to " Making 22.4% Sodium Chlorite Solution from Sodium Chlorite flakes ".

Regarding using half the number of drops of 10% HCL, you will then effectively be using 5% HCL which is okay to make MMS1, but if used to make CDH, the CDH shelf life will be very short. Using 4% HCL to make CDH results in a 2 week shelf life in a fridge. Using 2% HCL will make CDH that lasts 2 months in a fridge. To make CDS, 10% HCL is the proper percentage mixed 50:50 with MMS in the reactor container.

Going from 4% to 5% is a 25% increase, not 1%. If you have a caculator with a % key, enter (4) (+) (25) (%) and you will get 5 (%).

When I took the class no one was that precise, nothing is absolute, even droppers put out different amounts, so I have no problem with a dab more of the activator. And I've had a bottle of CDS in my frig for several months, it still smells the same.
In class we judged the mixture by eyeballing it, was it too yellow, not enough..?

Dawna, your statement

I have no problem with a dab more of the activator

will cause problems when making CDH. 25% more activator is a problem when making CDH regardless of what the instructors said. They have not done the tests we have and don't seem interested in our testing. We have tried to explain why 5% HCL should not be used to make CDH, but they refuse to listen.

It seems only Tomas, Scott and I have performed various tests and used instruments other than test strips on CDH. Scott discovered that after 2 weeks in a fridge, CDH made with 4% HCL would not further activate in simulated stomach acid. That is a big problem. Looking at the color of CDH that is 2 weeks old or older and even measuring the ppm with test strips, will not alert you to the fact that the residual MMS is gone.

Most people think that MMS1 and CDH are fully activated when they are made since they have a yellow/green color and emit familiar CLO2 gas. In fact, CDH is only 50% activated externally and MMS1 is at most 10% activated, externally. The rest of the activation should take place in a stomach with normal amounts of gastric acids. Those who don't have that could use MMS1 tablets which contain an activator and will active in water. Of course, CDS could also be used as it is fully activated externally and does not need stomach acid to work effectively.

In the past, remembering that much of the activation of MMS1 and CDH happens in a "normal" stomach was forgotten and that is why both CDS and CDH were under-dosed. Measuring all three externally with test strips, they seem to be the same. And they are, externally. But, when ingested, MMS1 and CDH will activate further although CDS will not because it does not contain any residual MMS like MMS1 and CDH do. 1 ml of CDS or CDH do NOT equate to a MMS1 3 drop dose when ingested. Both were way under-dosed by a factor of 6 and 3 respectively. This is why CDS and CDH have been said to be "weak" compared to MMS1.

Yes, CDS is different than MMS1 and CDH and it will keep a very long time, although after about one year in a fridge, 50% of the CLO2 will be gone. I know that, because I measured it after one year.

This one page PDF file Equating MMS1, CDH, CDS summarizes this question.