Discouraged with MMS1 due to stomach issues or diarrhea?

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28 Jan 2015 20:29 #48895 by red_wing_fan

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Hi,

This post is to tell others how switching from Citric Acid to HCl as an activator allowed me to continue with my protocol. Without the suggestion to switch from CA to HCl I would have stopped a long time ago and completely dismissed and missed out on this promising treatment!

I was excited to start Protocol 2000 due to the health problems I have. I ordered MMS and Citric Acid and couldn't wait for it to arrive as I wanted to start ASAP. I was so excited when the packaged arrived.

The first thing I noticed was the smell of the gas it produced but as long as I stayed away from it I was ok. But the taste was something AWFUL!

I did ok on day 1, but early into day 2 I started getting nauseous. Then the diarrhea started. And it was bad. I cut back on the drops, but eventually discontinued them. It took about 3 days for that diarrhea to stop.

I was scared to restart the protocol due to my previous experience, but I knew it was in my best interest. So I did. I might as well cut and paste the previous paragraph because the same thing nearly happened. The difference this time was I recognized sooner that the diarrhea was starting and I stopped right then. I only had 2 days of diarrhea (which was an improvement, though).

I knew I needed to continue on with the protocol, but there was no way that was going to happen unless something changed.

Then I found this forum and I started benefitting from the experience of so many other people! I posted what I experienced and it was suggested to switch activators. Citric Acid can cause stomach upset in certain people.

The suggestion was to switch from Citric Acid to HCl. The claim was that it didn't upset the stomach like CA did and it also tasted significantly better, and that taste could be improved with stevia. So I ordered enough HCl to replace the CA I previously ordered. And I waited for it to arrive.

Guess what? It is WAY BETTER! I'm not experiencing the stomach upset, the naussea, nor the diarrhea. And guess what else? It tastes WAY BETTER!!!!! I did add the stevia and boy is that an improvement.

My advice: don't give up, use the forum, benefit from the experience of others, and switch from Citric Acid to HCl.
I can only imagine how many people gave up and discarded this treatment - how would things have been different if only they knew to switch to HCl.

Spread the word!

Thanks all!
J

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28 Jan 2015 21:11 - 28 Jan 2015 21:12 #48896 by CLO2

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Bravo, red_wing_fan!

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29 Jan 2015 01:43 #48901 by mightyhealthy

Replied by mightyhealthy on topic Discouraged with MMS1 due to stomach issues or diarrhea?

Well I started protocol 1000+ and I am on my second day. I have been having diarreah all day and I am using HCI. Now is that normal too?

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29 Jan 2015 01:51 #48902 by fourfingerz

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Are you reading and following the 2000 protocol at the bottom of the page?

"These are the important instructions you must be sure to follow

You must not make yourself sicker than you already are: Do not cause yourself a lot of nausea, or pain, or diarrhea. When you notice any of these symptoms coming on take less MMS. Try not to stop taking MMS, just take less. Go from 2 drops an hour of activated MMS to one drop an hour. Or if you are already take only one drop an hour, then take 1/2 drop and hour, or even 1/4 drop an hour. Do not cause yourself diarrhea if you can avoid it by taking less MMS. Pain, diarrhea, nausea and other discomforts cause loss of energy, which in turn causes slower healing and slower recovery. On the other hand try to increase the amount of drops you are taking until you are taking as many drops an hour as you can without feeling worse, but do not go over 12 drops an hour."

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29 Jan 2015 02:02 #48903 by mightyhealthy

Replied by mightyhealthy on topic Discouraged with MMS1 due to stomach issues or diarrhea?

I guess I was under the impression that using HCI I would not get the diarreah symptons, but I guess thats not always the case.

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29 Jan 2015 02:13 #48904 by fourfingerz

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I'm sorry mightyhealthy I thought it was red_wing_fan .

Read and understand the 1000+ protocol at the bottom of the page.

"How to Make & Take individual doses

You will make individual hourly doses of activated MMS1 to which DMSO will be added at the rate of 1 drop of DMSO for each drop of MMS1. Reduce the number of drops if diarrhea, nausea or vomiting occurs or you feel worse. "

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29 Jan 2015 02:16 #48905 by CLO2

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mightyhealthy said:

Well I started protocol 1000+ and I am on my second day. I have been having diarreah all day and I am using HCI. Now is that normal too?

Apparently it is normal for you, at whatever dose you are taking, which you did not state. What dose are you taking? Did you start with 1 drop per hour on day one? Or did you jump right to 3 drops per hour? How many drops of DMSO are you using? What is the dilution of your DMSO? 100% 70% 50%?

If you are one who has little or no stomach acid, then the sodium chlorite may be causing diarrhea. If so, they you should try CDS which is CLO2 only in a water solution. And, it is possible that you are having Herxheimer reactions by dumping toxins too fast. Give us more info and maybe we can help.

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29 Jan 2015 02:18 #48906 by mightyhealthy

Replied by mightyhealthy on topic Discouraged with MMS1 due to stomach issues or diarrhea?

Thanks fourfingerz. Let me just clarify since I see no mention of it. Is it OK to do protocol 1000+
using HCI as an activator? It makes no mention of using it as an activator when you read through the protocol
but thats all I have.

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29 Jan 2015 02:32 #48907 by mightyhealthy

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Hey CLO2
I am using a 70/30 dmso mixture I purchased and adding 3 drops to each glass. And yes I did start protocol 1000+ with 3 drops activated right off the bat which was
probably a bad idea. day one had no issues. day 2 I have the diarreah and its not a lot just every few hours or so but seems to have tapered off. More annoying though is a headache which seems to have slowly intensified throughout the day.

This is my first experience using mms. I had only used CDS before using the experimental 115 protocol and did not have a single issue. But there seems to be some discrepancy in regards to its effectiveness which is why I was trying MMS. also I purchase everything and the mms is much more cost efficient than the cds.

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29 Jan 2015 03:02 #48908 by CLO2

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Hi and thanks for the info. Yes, starting with 3 drops was probably not a good idea, as you found out.

70/30 DMSO sounds good. 100% is usually too strong. Headaches seem normal as a form of Herx I believe. I am on an intestinal cleanse now and getting some headaches which I rarely have. You could also experience tiredness during the protocol. Sleep is healing.

Yes, you can use 4% HCL to make MMS1 with P1000, P1000+ and P2000.

Since you have MMS and HCL it is easy to make CDS using the overnight methods. If you have 4% HCL and want to make CDS, use 2:1 4% HCL to MMS ratio.

The dosing for CDS and CDH has been wrongly stated, I am afraid. For ingestion, not external use, to equate a 3 drop MMS1 dose you will need 3ml of 3000ppm CDH, 6ml of CDH2 or 6ml of 3000ppm CDS. See this post for more info.

CDS it is fully activated so P115 is good to use because CDS may irritate your throat with large doses. Using small doses more often gets the CLO2 inside without throat irritation.

Try starting again MMS1 tomorrow with 1 drop/hour for the day and see how it goes for you.

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