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If it is, and has a long half-life, you may want to wait
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This line tell you all.angieLynn wrote: Can MMS and glutathione be taken at the same time? I do a glutathione IV once a week, and I'm overdue. I'd like to take it tonight, but I'm using MMS internally and externally for a really bad infection from a bug bite. Will the glutathione interfere the MMS like Vitamin C?
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Numerous studies support glutathione supplementation for cancer patients. In addition to its antioxidant properties , immune support and detoxification, glutathione supports those patients undergoing conventional therapies.
is an IV, so going to hit your blood stream immediately and will kill any CL02 available in your blood. I will said hold mms on the week of y our IV and then continue after couple of day so your Glutathione effect don't get cancel each other.
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I'm in the middle of fighting a nasty infection, so I need the MMS. But I'm long overdue for my glutathione and it helps my immune system, and helps with detoxing. With vitamin C Jim says you can take it on the same day but after the MMS. Would that be the same with the glutathione IV? So can I take it an hour or two after my last dose of MMS? Or is it different with an IV?
By the way, glutathione half-life is around 90 minutes, but I also saw this about glutathione (GSH):
There appear to be two hepatic pools of GSH, one with a half life of approximately 2 hours, and one with a half-life of
approximately 30 hours; the former is used for detoxification, antioxidant, and protein
synthesis functions; the latter is used for mitochondrial protection. Circulating
conjugated GSH (including conjugated GSH from the liver through venous secretion)
(73), or reduced GSH is freely filtered through the renal system, with gamma-
glutamyl transferase (and two other peptidases) again playing the key role in
hydrolysis (with 90% extraction from glomerular filtrate in rat experiments) (71).
The enzymatic action occurs at the brush border of the proximal tubular epithelium
(73). Urinary excretion of any unnecessary amino acids occurs, though amino acids
would also be returned to the liver. Before final excretion from the body through
urine, glutathione conjugates have been metabolized to mercapturates, which is how
the excretion of toxins neutralized by glutathione takes place
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angieLynn wrote: Thanks gj and Pam.
I'm in the middle of fighting a nasty infection, so I need the MMS. But I'm long overdue for my glutathione and it helps my immune system, and helps with detoxing. With vitamin C Jim says you can take it on the same day but after the MMS. Would that be the same with the glutathione IV? So can I take it an hour or two after my last dose of MMS? Or is it different with an IV?
By the way, glutathione half-life is around 90 minutes, but I also saw this about glutathione (GSH):
There appear to be two hepatic pools of GSH, one with a half life of approximately 2 hours, and one with a half-life of
approximately 30 hours; the former is used for detoxification, antioxidant, and protein
synthesis functions; the latter is used for mitochondrial protection. Circulating
conjugated GSH (including conjugated GSH from the liver through venous secretion)
(73), or reduced GSH is freely filtered through the renal system, with gamma-
glutamyl transferase (and two other peptidases) again playing the key role in
hydrolysis (with 90% extraction from glomerular filtrate in rat experiments) (71).
The enzymatic action occurs at the brush border of the proximal tubular epithelium
(73). Urinary excretion of any unnecessary amino acids occurs, though amino acids
would also be returned to the liver. Before final excretion from the body through
urine, glutathione conjugates have been metabolized to mercapturates, which is how
the excretion of toxins neutralized by glutathione takes place
Base on the information you provided will be ok to start on MMS after 4 days to be sure that all is gone and did not interfere one with the other. Remember each 30 hours it lost half of the strength of the initial dose.
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I can't stop the MMS at all because of this pretty awful infection. I'm doing 8 doses of MMS a day, so I was wondering if I could take the glutathione IV at night, but I see there are two versions of half-life - one at 2 hours which I assume would not interfere with the next days' MMS, and one with a half life of 30 hours which would interfere.
So maybe I'm answering my own question here. If I take the glutathione IV am I correct to assume that it would stop the MMS from working for the 30 hours after?
Also I took Livon Labs lipisomal vitamin C and glutathione packets at the end of the night last night. I called Livon Labs and they said the half-life of their Vitamin C was about 5 hours which is fine, and he guessed that the glutathione would be the same but wasn't sure. The half life if taken orally without lipisomals is only like 2 minutes, but I'm wondering if lipisomal glutathione could be hanging around in my body longer than 5 hours.
I'm guessing that as long as I'm taking the MMS for an active infection I'll need to avoid the IV and the lipisomal glutathione. Am I seeing this correctly?
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angieLynn wrote: Hi GJP - I'm confused.
I can't stop the MMS at all because of this pretty awful infection. I'm doing 8 doses of MMS a day, so I was wondering if I could take the glutathione IV at night, but I see there are two versions of half-life - one at 2 hours which I assume would not interfere with the next days' MMS, and one with a half life of 30 hours which would interfere.
So maybe I'm answering my own question here. If I take the glutathione IV am I correct to assume that it would stop the MMS from working for the 30 hours after?
Also I took Livon Labs lipisomal vitamin C and glutathione packets at the end of the night last night. I called Livon Labs and they said the half-life of their Vitamin C was about 5 hours which is fine, and he guessed that the glutathione would be the same but wasn't sure. The half life if taken orally without lipisomals is only like 2 minutes, but I'm wondering if lipisomal glutathione could be hanging around in my body longer than 5 hours.
I'm guessing that as long as I'm taking the MMS for an active infection I'll need to avoid the IV and the lipisomal glutathione. Am I seeing this correctly?
Look, when they told you the half life is 5 hours, that mean you need to give four times to be clean from that and we don't know the concentration of your medication so your VItamin C will take about 20 hours to be out of your system. because is 1, 1/2,1/4,1/8,1/16 because each 5 hours will cancel half of the amount. For example you drink 4000 mg of vitamin C, after five hours will be 2000 mg still in your system, after 5 hours will be 1000 mg after 5 hours will 500 after 5 hours will 250, after 5 hours will 150, after 5 hours will 75 after 24 hours you still have vitamin C in your system. So you need to evaluate. I will suggest to use MMS after you finish with those. If you take MMS at the same time You are killing MMS effect and your VItamin C effect. both are affected.
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Thanks for explaining that to me.
So I'm planning to do MMS for lyme after this wound heals, but with what you're saying, I will be unable to take the lipisomal vitamin C whenever I'm doing MMS. That's tough since the regular vitamin C is so acidic for me even when buffered.
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