file do you understand molecular science of mms?

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13 May 2014 22:08 #44349 by Dawna
I am trying to convince some skeptical scientists of the value of mms. They tell me:
"For something that reacts with acids, oral dosage is not possible because it will be destroyed in the stomach.
Some molecules can survive the stomach and make it through to the intestines where most drugs tend to be absorbed. Some cannot.
The first pencillins are a good example – the first penicillin developed as a drug was acid sensitive and so could only be used by injection. Later chemists worked out a way to alter the structure of the molecule so that it was acid-resistant which is why today we can take several penicllin related drugs orally.
Most drug molecules are much larger than chlorine dioxide which stabilises their reactivity so that they aren’t so reactive they react before they get to where they will have a beneficial effect."

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13 May 2014 22:54 #44352 by pam
I"m not sure why you even bother - they're not going to believe you. That has been my experience.
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14 May 2014 00:48 #44355 by gjplaceres
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Dawna wrote: I am trying to convince some skeptical scientists of the value of mms. They tell me:
"For something that reacts with acids, oral dosage is not possible because it will be destroyed in the stomach.
Some molecules can survive the stomach and make it through to the intestines where most drugs tend to be absorbed. Some cannot.
The first pencillins are a good example – the first penicillin developed as a drug was acid sensitive and so could only be used by injection. Later chemists worked out a way to alter the structure of the molecule so that it was acid-resistant which is why today we can take several penicllin related drugs orally.
Most drug molecules are much larger than chlorine dioxide which stabilises their reactivity so that they aren’t so reactive they react before they get to where they will have a beneficial effect."

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Actually they should know that in the stomach is Where the Magic of chlorine dioxide happend. The concentration of HCL is between. .1 and .16 molar. Like .5%. That amount is enought to convert all the sodium chlorite no activated in the dose of MMS. Last week I validate this putting different know amount of SC in .16 molar of HCL. In less than 10 minute all the clo2 Was release. So the stomach is why this work so Well.
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14 May 2014 01:28 #44359 by Dawna
Ahhhh yes, but I don't want to mention HCL as I only use citric acid....and I don't want to start a new war.

So, if I say : Yes, it reacts with acid, but it's the acid that makes the sodium chlorite work, Jim uses it as an activator, so when the activated mms1 hits the stomach the stomach acid only makes it release more chlorine dioxide and be more powerful.

Okay? or add more...

It's fun Pam....these guys who think they are so smart, I've already got them on a few things. You don't know what you are missing! And, there may be someone lurking in the background who never speaks up but listens and ventures forth. The forum is all Kiwis and Aussies.
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14 May 2014 02:32 #44360 by postmarkedheaven
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I am the same way Dawna. I am trying to ask around the forum for references to Jim's work, Kalcker's book translated into English or just some decent chemistry book to read. Does anyone have any of these resources they would recommend?

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14 May 2014 15:23 - 14 May 2014 15:27 #44377 by fourfingerz
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A couple of OLD English sayings come to mind regarding your dilemmas.

"there are none so blind than those who will not see"

and ...

"convince a mind against it's will and they will remain of the same opinion still"

You could provide scientific evidence to 10 decimal places and they won't be convinced. Just administer MMS in your own life and lead by example. They will hear when their ready.

Martin
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14 May 2014 17:07 #44385 by gjplaceres
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postmarkedheaven wrote: I am the same way Dawna. I am trying to ask around the forum for references to Jim's work, Kalcker's book translated into English or just some decent chemistry book to read. Does anyone have any of these resources they would recommend?


My best resource is GOOGLE. I get surprise when was reading Kalcker' book that he talk about the Half Life of Chlorine Dioxide and he found the same information I did. 44 hours So I recommend you, that all that you want to know about studies done with Chlorine Dioxide check the internet.
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14 May 2014 17:20 #44388 by pam
The other thing to keep in mind is that, on the whole here, we have people who are seeking information for their own health issues, so they're not deeply into the scientific or technical jargon - Jim Humble wrote his book simply so that non-technical people could understand it - so the focus of this particular forum is not "technical" - nor do we feel that we need to "defend" or "debate" Jim's protocols - there are experimental groups, playing around with them, but on this forum we've moved, over the years since it's inception, to being more of a support forum for people who are having physical issues or who want to use the protocol on themselves.
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14 May 2014 17:30 #44391 by Rev Glenda
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pam wrote: - Jim Humble wrote his book simply so that non-technical people could understand it - so the focus of this particular forum is not "technical" - nor do we feel that we need to "defend" or "debate" Jim's protocols - there are experimental groups, playing around with them, but on this forum we've moved, over the years since it's inception, to being more of a support forum for people who are having physical issues or who want to use the protocol on themselves.


I so agree with you - that's why I was encouraged when I first found out about MMS - because of it's being explained simply - I DO not understand all the scientific stuff. :huh: I'm sure most of the world is that way too. If it would have been so scientific to use, I'd have given up LONG ago. I so appreciate Jim and the way he set it all up. I also knew at the get go that they worked. :cheer:

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14 May 2014 18:04 #44392 by Dawna
Great information, postmarkheaven - is in his first book! You must not have it, he explains how he discovered that stabilized oxygen was chlorine.....etc. etc.i cannot rewrite the book, but you simply MUST buy it. He was already knowledgeable on oxidants as he was a research scientist. You and I would need to go back to school to really understand.- do you know what a oxidant is? Get "Breakthrough,The Miracle Mineral solution of the 21st Century" You won't be able to put it down, it's also full of cures......but he explains everything, and it makes sense, sure I had to reread some parts...but am I glad I bought it!

Okay, here's what I wrote to the scientists.....I cannot forget it took me 7 years to try mms, always being a skeptic, so I have to have patience, and know that someday one of these guys will decide to give it a try.
Alison, thanks for the clarity.
Seems that, like hormones, my system is probably getting low and lazy in the production area, so I am happy to take my calcium hypochlorite, and I know it works, Jim Humble deserves a Nobel Prize for curing the common cold. But, his name is humble, and he deserves that too.

Michael,
Sodium chlorite when added to citric acid produces chlorine dioxide. It's this chlorine dioxide that cures through oxidation. So, when mms1 hits the stomach acid - it isn't neutralized, it is activated more. It only "lives" in the body for an hour, but in that time it kills bacteria, viruses, fungi.....

Jim Humble discovered the use of sodium chlorite by using "stabilized oxygen" on 4 people while in the Amazon. It cured malaria within 4 hours. He already knew about oxidants and had taught classes on them and their use, oxidants are atoms or molecles that take up electrons. (I'm learning here). But, stablized oxygen only worked 70% of the time, and he wanted a full cure so he started experimenting with it to see what it was, how it worked. His book is a fascinating read.

Anyway, that's the jest of it, sodium chlorite is happy to meet stomach acid.

I went to the chlorine dioxide website and read that it cures polio.....my dad had polio since he was 32....I was very sad to read that he could have been cured. www.clordisys.com/WhatIsCD.pdf

How could anyone think I am a follower? It takes guts and courage to listen to your own heart and take the path less traveled.
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