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Hi,

It's a little over a month since my Mom and I started the CDH-1 protocol.
At first, I was doing okay except for a sore throat, but I was able to
tolerate the level of stomach upset. I was up to 6 drops an hour and
doing okay ...(though I somehow managed to catch a cold).

Then I started integrating the MMS2 along with it, and I was still doing
alright, except for extreme nausea if I took it on an empty stomach - an
easy fix as long as I made sure I had eaten something.

Well, I started noticing after a couple of weeks that my symptoms were
seemingly creeping back in...(symptoms of the medical issue I am taking
MMS to clear up - I had noticed some improvement prior to this using the
citric acid)....so I decided to go back to taking MMS with citric acid
for a couple of days to see if I got better.

After my second day back on the citric acid, I was so nauseous that I
had to stay near the bathroom, or keep a pan with me. I finally got to
the point I was throwing up, and after that the nausea just wouldn't go
away, even though I stopped taking it that day. Next day I was just as
nauseous even though I dropped my doses way down. Sooo... I went
back to the CDH-1 and was able to tolerate it except for having constant
heart-burn and a sore throat. Once again, my symptoms seem to be
creeping back, and I am extremely frustrated!!

I feel like the CDH-1 isn't doing enough for me...as if I'm going backwards
in my treatment, but my body is adamantly opposed to using the Citric.

How do I proceed from here? If I take the solution made into capsules,
won't it still affect me the same way nausea-wise?

I'm supposed to be on Protocol 2000, taking at least 6 drops an hour to
kill a very aggressive medical condition, but yet I can barely handle a
dose half that size using the CA. So, in taking a smaller dose, using
either activator, is it going to be as affective, or am I just wasting my
time? Will it still fix my problems? Should I keep going with the CDH-1,
even though I feel like I'm back-sliding?

I'm frustrated & don't know what to do at this point. My condition is
serious enough that I can't quit trying...(I'm fighting Gluten Intolerance
and MS symptoms)...so I need to find what will work for me, but I can't
handle feeling sick all the time.

What do you suggest?

1st suggestion, an apple.
I have read that an apple will subside the stomach issue of nausea.
Please TRY to take MMS in capsules either active with Citric or HCl and let us know what you experience with each.

also
Do a test
Two shot glasses on table.
Each has 3 drops MMS1. Add 3 drops (or correct amount of) Activator Citric to one, HCl to other.
Watch and report back which re-acts faster, if it clouds, what colours you see and when.
This will help us know what strength you are getting out of each.
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TimeLady said in reference to CDH:

... I was up to 6 drops an hour...

I presume you meant 6ml per hour? That would be quite a lot of CDH if you are toxic.

It seems citric acid is a problem for you, so try using 4% HCL.

And from what I read, you are taking too much MMS and need to reduce to a non-Herx dose. Once you determine a non-Herx dose, stay at that dosage a few days, then slowly move up.

Your body will tell you how fast you can ramp up, as you are finding out.

Ray said:

Do a test
Two shot glasses on table.
Each has 3 drops MMS1. Add 3 drops (or correct amount of) Activator Citric to one, HCl to other.
Watch and report back which re-acts faster, if it clouds, what colours you see and when.
This will help us know what strength you are getting out of each.

I did the test as requested and here are the results. The room is now fumigated with the CLO2 gas that escaped out the open glass containers.

lol
Was hoping TL would do it so we could determine if the HCL activation was as powerful as the CA. My own preliminary "lab" tests indicate my HCl is a bit weak needing 4 drops to parallel
TL says she gets sick with CA, but if it is a weaker activation with HCl, that could explain that.

Again, some people don't tolerate CA very well.

The big problem I see with activating classic MMS in an open container is all the CLO2 gas floating away out the open top! If that is what we think does all the magic, then maybe we should activate in a closed container.

Wait! We do! It is called CDH! I almost forgot that.

I can not be sure it is CA that is the issue.
No smoking round that open air mix off...
I wish to determine that the HCl is as active as the CA inTimeLadys kit.
But while we're waiting, I have another question.
Do we know why or how a known activator CA, when added to CDH depletes the ppm content of CD. More ACtvator, reduces potency seems counter intutive.
Is this just in HCl activated MMS or does CA ACtivated MMS also deplete when LJ is added?

But while we're waiting, I have another question.
Do we know why or how a known activator CA, when added to CDH depletes the ppm content of CD. More ACtvator, reduces potency seems counter intutive.
Is this just in HCl activated MMS or does CA ACtivated MMS also deplete when LJ is added?

Lemon juice does reduce CLO2 content in MMS, CDH or CDS if added. Probably due to its antioxidant properties. Something else should be used to add to MMS to help with the taste problem. CDS and CDH don't have the same taste problem as MMS unless citric acid was used to activate CDH. CDS only contains CLO2 gas in distilled water.

When lemon juice is mixed with SC as an activator, the citric acid it contains will produce some CLO2 from the SC, but also reduces the CLO2 due to its antioxidant properties. But there is some CLO2 from the reaction anyway. Probably not the best activator to use.

Throat irritation or burning can be reduced if the Mouth Holding Method (MHM) is used as some of the CLO2 is absorbed in the mouth before swallowing.

Greetings Timelady

With people have extreme disease or have been diseaded for sometime I start very slowly.

I first start with 2000ppm CDS 5 drops and work up to 15 drops over 1 week, if possible. Once the person is able to complete 1 week of 15 drops CDS (an hour for 8 hours) we move onto 3 drops MMS1.

Remember if nausea or diarrhoea come you must drop back until it clears ( little diarrhoea is ok, but not to much)

Once the person is able to complete one week of 3 drops MMS1 we move onto MMS2 and increase MMS1 drops as required.

To me it seems you may be a bit hasty with the drops.

My advice is to cut right back, dont stop completely, start again on 1 drop CDS every other hour or even less 1 drop CDS every two or three hours. Once you can tolerate this dose move up. Dont be in a rush. In the old days we would take 15 or more drops and suffer for a few days then feel great but this is not reccomended anymore. Slowly is best.

You may want to try the Bathe and gas protocols. And enema protocol if you are up to it.

I also do a parasite cleanse using a combination of DE and Calcium Bentonite.