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I've just learned about ozone and hydrogen peroxide's abilities to eradicate disease from a couple of books. Then within one week of that I found out about MMS. I gather from reading on this forum that MMS works better than ozone and hydrogen peroxide, correct me if I'm wrong.

What I've read about ozone and hydrogen peroxide make them sound perfectly safe and harmless to the body, accept to the bad things in the body like viruses, bacteria, fungus, which can't survive in an oxygen rich environment. They even mention how hydrogen peroxide is something that is naturally produced in our bodies anyway - something our cells naturally produce to fight of these pathogens. I've also heard that people with Hiv and Aids have even gone in remission with hydrogen peroxide.

Then on this forum I read that hydrogen peroxide does have side effects or possible dangers to the body, and that MMS is supposedly safer and more effective. Safer in that while it is also an oxidizer, it is a weaker oxidizer than hydrogen peroxide and so doesn't put too much oxygen in the blood which apparently can cause problems. And it's more effective in that hydrogen peroxide supposedly won't cure as many things as MMS will, like Hiv and Aids. Although I have read elsewhere that people have healed Hiv and Aids with hydrogen peroxide, so who knows. And I also read on this forum that MMS is also naturally produced in the body. Or maybe it was chlorine dioxide that's naturally produced in the body.

Anyway, I was happy when I found out about this hydrogen peroxide cure all. It seemed pretty simple to administer. And I'm already familiar with hydrogen peroxide. MMS on the other hand is very confusing. Nobody's heard of that. Even after reading about it I still don't really understand what it is. I feel like you have to be a chemist to understand this stuff. And it's a lot more difficult to administer because there are different protocols and methods. And even the name of it - MMS - sounds like a disease.

In the book "The One Minute Cure - the secret to healing virtually all diseases", the author makes it sound like there has never been any reported causes of hydrogen peroxide negatively effecting people. That if administered correctly it has absolutely no negative side effects whatsoever. But, it seems that some people on this forum don't share that view. I have even read somewhere else that hydrogen peroxide can cause stomach problems and even stomach cancer. I wonder if there's any truth in that.

I'm just seeing a difference of opinions and it's leaving me not knowing what to believe. Maybe the people who are seeing negative side effects with hydrogen peroxide just aren't diluting it enough, could that be? What are your thoughts? Is MMS really better? And what is so bad about ozone when so many are claiming to have benefited from it?

Thank you for the questions.
MMS is "better" than Ozone and Hydrogen peroxide for the reasons you cite.
Body Voltage is about 1.2, MMS Voltage .95 a volt.
HP is about 1.8 and Ozone 2.+.
This means that voltages above body voltages can harm tissue and flora.

I believe it is true that Ozone and HP can cure disease.
What we feel makes MMS "better" is that it does not strip intestinal flora, nor harm body tissue.

I understand MMS to be more powerful as it is a dioxide oxidiser

I hope that helps.

I think hydrogen peroxide, if administered correctly, can be great for helping the body to heal disease.

I believe it's very important that it's taken correctly though, due to the voltage difference, as Rev Ray has mentioned. I believe that if it is taken in too high of a concentration, it can do some serious damage.

On the other hand, there was someone who emptied the contents of two 240ml bottles of CDH-1 in two days, so 1 bottle each day until she realized she was dosing too much. This is a HUGE amount of CLO2 to put into the body over such a short period of time! But there were no negative side effects as far as we know so far.

Maybe Pam can step in here and comment more about whether or not anything negative came of taking so much CDH like that because I think she's probably still allowed on that FB group. I was kicked off it so I can't say anymore than this.

So a major benefit of MMS is that it is difficult to hurt your body by overdoing it.

Ozone can also be good too. I've got an ozone machine running in my room right now to help clean the polluted Jakarta air.

All of these are great tools to have in our arsenal against disease.

Thanks for the good questions and thoughtful pondering - I've done the same.

By the way food grade hydrogen peroxide is very difficult to find in Jakarta by the ounce or liter. I finally found 35% food grade HP at a chemical store here. It cost me about $35 for it. Can you guess how much $35 bought though?????.......

60 LITERS! So I now have 60 liters of 35% hydrogen peroxide sitting in a storage room. To use it I have to dilute it down to 3%. So in other words, I now have enough hydrogen peroxide to make 600 liters of 3% and it should last for a few life times

That was the smallest amount I could buy though. Crazy.

Take care,
Scott

“How wonderful that we have met with a paradox. Now we have some hope of making progress.”
--As quoted in Niels Bohr : The Man, His Science, & the World They Changed (1966) by Ruth Moore, p. 196

Yeah, I believe that's what I read about hydrogen peroxide as well - that you should use only 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide and that it should be diluted down farther in water.

I've actually heard that hydrogen peroxide doesn't harm the good bacteria in your gut, but Rev Ray made it sound like it can. Does that just depends on how much you're using?

Rev Ray seems to be using voltage as an indicator of it's danger potential, with the human body measuring at about 1.2. So if it measures above the bodies voltage it is a potential problem. So, I'm just wondering, when using diluted hydrogen peroxide, is there a maximum amount we shouldn't go above? I mean, at what point does it go above the bodies voltage and become a problem?

I'm also curious about the ozone machines, as well as oxygenated water. Are there any ozone machines and water oxygenators that are not harmful to the body, that can keep the voltage below the bodies voltage, and not harm your intestinal flora and body tissue?

Personally, I like the idea of being able to oxygenate my house since I spend a lot of time indoors. I've also heard that these ozone machines will keep the fleas off your dog, and kill any mold in your house. And I drink a lot of water, so I might as well be getting more oxygen in that if I can. But, I also don't want to be using anything that is potentially dangerous.

As far as MMS goes, I assume Jim Humble's latest book will cover everything I need to know on that, right?


Thanks

His book will carry most everything you need to know about MMS - won't cover the other oxidizers (other than to name them and the difference between them and MMS and the same base information that Ray gave)

HP does work no doubt, we used it before discovering MMS. The problem is that too much of it is not good. We used up to 12 drops 35% food grade in a glass of water twice a day for about two weeks any longer and you will start to smell horrible from inside.

O3 is good but again too much does more harm than good. An O3 bath once or twice a week is enough.

No matter how much one dilutes it, the voltage of h2o2 does not change. It's higher than body cell voltage and therefore kills cells. MMS voltage is lower than body cell voltage and therefore does not kill cells. It does , however, kill bacteria which all have a lower voltage than MMS.
H2O2 at any concentration will kill both bacteria and body cells.

I was told ozone was bad for lung tissue so I´ve stopped using my ozone machine.

I have lung problems actually, so that sucks to here that ozone is bad for lung tissue.

Paul said that no matter how much you dilute it, the voltage of h2o2 does not change. But, I'm wondering something - why would h202 even have a voltage in the first place. They say that water is only a conductor of electricity BECAUSE it has minerals in it, and that the electricity arcs across the minerals in the water since they are a conductor of electricity. But, water itself is NOT suppose to be a conductor of electricity. Distilled water doesn't have any minerals in it and it apparently doesn't conduct electricity from what I've read. Water is h2o and hydrogen peroxide is h2o2 - so it just simply has an extra oxygen atom, right? Why would that make it a conductor of electricity? I would think it therefore shouldn't have a voltage at all. What's up with that?

Unless they don't use distilled water to make it, is that case?