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activation 22 Jan 2014 18:55 #39075

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hi all

sorry to be a pain, and i am finding it embarrasing to ask, but i am finding it a bit confusing about activating hcl. i dont understand why it has to be done when we have hydrochloride acid in our gut naturally. also i read on here that you have to be very carefull with hcl as it can explode, and is very dangerous if its not 4%.

i was looking to get some as had trouble with 50% citric which has put me off a bit. could someone please explain in laymans terms as i have had a stroke and two heart attacks and have difficulty with numbers and graphs as my mind doesnt tend to grasp them

thanks

jeff

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activation 22 Jan 2014 19:13 #39077

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Hi Jeff
I can't answer all your questions but I can say that YES we do have the same acid in our stomachs and some threads from ~2 years ago will talk about using stomach acid to activate MMS. For some this does appear to work if I recall correctly. There was much discussion but I do not know what the final verdict was.

Please ask what you need to know. We are here to guide.
There are many activators
10% citric acid 5:1MMS
lemon or lime juice 5:1MMS
35% citric 1:1
50% citric 1:1
Vinegar 5:1
4% HCl 1:1

Also if taste is at issue, one can place MMS in gel caps.

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jeffers, 4% hcl (hydrochloric acid) is used to "activate" unactivated mms (22.4% sodium chlorite), which releases chlorine dioxide gas from the unactivated mms by changing the pH of the unactivated mms.

Then you have activated mms or cdh depending on how the unactivated mms was activated. There is one way to activate mms and three ways to activate cdh. One does not activate hcl.

Hydrochloric acid is found naturally in gastric acid.

Gastric acid is a digestive fluid, formed in the stomach. It has a pH of 1-2 and is composed of hydrochloric acid (HCl) (around 0.5%, or 5000 parts per million) as high as 0.1 M,[1] potassium chloride (KCl) and sodium chloride (NaCl). The acid plays a key role in digestion of proteins, by activating digestive enzymes, and making ingested proteins unravel so that digestive enzymes break down the long chains of amino acids. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gastric_acid


So, mms and cdh can continue to activate in one's stomach if there is hcl present.

Chlorine dioxide gas (NaCLO2) can explode if a highly concentrated batch of CDH is made and it is exposed to direct sunlight and is hot. The only time one might make such a highly concentrated batch of CDH is if you make cdh12 or make cdh for use in capsules. Most people would never do that.

If you have hcl in a percentage higher than 4%, such as 10% hcl or even 37% hcl, you would dilute those higher percentages down to 4% by mixing with a certain amount of distilled water. The process to do that is always to add the acid to the water and not the other way around.

Mixing 1 part unactivated mms with 1 part 4% hcl as we do when making mms or cdh is not a problem. It would be best to keep that solution away from sunlight and to keep it cold if possible so CLO2 gas will stay in the water solution and not become a weak mms or cdh.
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