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scleroderma and stomach issues 19 Aug 2013 06:15 #35418

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Hello Everyone:

Just received Jim's book and I am in the process of waiting for the MMS to arrive within the next couple of days.

I have had scleroderma since the age of 19. I am now 54. Throughout the years I have done many alternative treatments to reverse the disease with much success. The latest being a 12 year run of Dr. McPherson Browns protocol for antibiotics. At the moment, I am unable to do the treatment because of my compromised digestive system. I finished Grad School last year and I was under a tremendous amount of stress which made me very sick. The digestive system has become very compromised. The problems really started in the lower abdomen and it ended up effecting the stomach and all the surrounding organs. As a result of the issues I had I ended up with two benign cysts on my pancreas and I found out that my gallbladder was only working at 6%. Unfortunately, I had it removed 3 months ago. Now I am faced with horrible bile reflux, diarrhea and problems lower down in the intestines. Whether it was the scleroderma or something else, before the surgery, my bowels had been quite sluggish. After the surgery, it has become a fine line between constipation and loose stools, pain in the lower abdomen, plus the burning pain of the bile moving around in my stomach and the reflux working its way up my throat. Although I have always eaten quite healthy, I have been on a super strict diet especially over the last several days, however; must take some Carafate so that I don't feel that bad and so that I can sleep.

My Dad who has always been there investigating things to help with my illness was the one who actually found the MMS. At first, I was somewhat skeptical but now I am willing to give it a shot. My only concern is whether or not the product will make the issue with the bile and stomach worse (due to inflammation) because of the citric acid? …..And I am also wondering if the MMS will be able to penetrate the mycoplasma that makes me sick since it surrounds itself with calcium. I also have Crest syndrome and I have several nodules on my right arm. One needs surgery however I am reluctant to have it at this time because of the stomach issues.

I am a bit desperate at this point because I notice some worsening of disease symptoms. I was going to follow your protocol for Cancer which involves 1-3 drops of 50% citric acid to 1 drop MMs in a 1/4 glass of water 8 hours a day. Increasing until you feel nausea and then backing down should you feel sick? Do you stay on that level until you feel better and then increase or do you back down to where you feel better and then increase? I hope this is correct? I also see that you have suggested enemas? Wondering if that would be beneficial for me since some of my problems reside in the lower bowel. Any suggestions would really be appreciated. I am a bit afraid and don't want to make any mistakes.

Since I have stomach issues due to the bile reflux and small intestine problems, I was wondering how the MMS would effect me. I have lost a lot of weight in the last 6 months (I'm down to 95lbs) and I cannot afford to loose more weight. Kind of wondering how to approach this since I have heard that many people get stomach upset with the citric acid/MMS combo. Would it be more feasible to try the CDS? Just curious if anyone has any ideas?

Appreciatively yours,
Suzanne
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scleroderma and stomach issues 21 Aug 2013 03:19 #35483

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Hello Suzanna,

What a journey. I am pleased to hear that you have so much support from your father. Congratulations on working so hard and continuuing to do so. I have used MMS now for many years to keep my RA under control. I was also reluctant to use the citric acid and have always used lemon juice in stead. I have used 5 minutes activation time instead of the 3 as suggested by Jim at the time. I used 15dr 3x daily in keeping with the protocols at that time. I am pleased for you that those protocols have changed.

I suggest you start slowly following protocol 1000. You can either use lemon juice or the CDS. In that way you don't get citric acid in your body.

After 2 weeks or so we can look at the situation again and see what else to add.

I hope this helps.

Marianne
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scleroderma and stomach issues 21 Aug 2013 12:29 #35485

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Thank you, Marianne for answering my post. Hope you don't mind if I ask some questions.
I suppose the biggest question is did you have a major herx while using the MMS?
Do you feel the MMS pulled you out of your arthritis?
I am assuming that you started out with the 1drop 3 x a day? Is that what I should start out at?
I notice that you are saying 'at that time.' Are you still doing the 15 drops 3x a day?
How much lemon juice to MMS did you use and why did you not decide to use the citric acid?

I really appreciate your response,
Suzanne

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scleroderma and stomach issues 21 Aug 2013 13:53 #35487

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I will throw in here that you are much less likely to have a herx if you do the current, lower-dose, protocols.

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scleroderma and stomach issues 21 Aug 2013 15:05 #35492

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I will throw in here that you are much less likely to have a herx if you do the current, lower-dose, protocols.

Thank you so much, Pam. By lower-dose do you mean 1-3 drops (building it up to 3) of MMS to 1 drop of citric acid every hour.
Do you begin with 1 drop a day and work up to 8 hours or do you start out with the 10 drops (1 per hour all day).
Will it still work for me at a low dose since I have a chronic condition?
How will it effect my stomach & intestines since I have motility problems?

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scleroderma and stomach issues 21 Aug 2013 21:51 #35510

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Hello Schunter,
My apologies for the confusion about the protocol. I defenitely suggest to use the current protocol 1000. For a start I would, to be safe, go for even half a drop for you. If no reaction to this then move to one. (To use half only drink half the cup). Stay on one for a week, then if feeling well move to 2 dr per hour. Stay at that for two weeks and if feeling well carefully ease into moving to three. (Hope it's clear, English not my first language, so I do my best)

MMS has been a big factor in my recovery although it is by far not the only thing.

I am surrounded by lemon trees so that was an easy choice for me.
Also in the book 'How to avoid the sickness industry' is a warning against the use of citric acid. I can't excactly quote it at this stage as I have lend the book to someone. (must get it back)

If you don't have a good supply of lemons I suggest you use CDS instead so the citric acid doesn't go into your body. It is so easy to make now.

I hope this helps but continue to ask the forum for help.

Best wishes

Marianne

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scleroderma and stomach issues 25 Aug 2013 02:47 #35565

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Hello Everyone:

I have had scleroderma since the age of 19. I am now 54. Throughout the years I have done many alternative treatments to reverse the disease with much success. The latest being a 12 year run of Dr. McPherson Browns protocol for antibiotics.


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Are you saying that you've been using antibiotics for the last 12 years and they've helped your condition?
If so which antibiotics were you taking?

According to the link above this Dcotor treat conditions affected by Mycoplasma which is a bacteria with no cell wall.
Having no cell wall makes it immune to many antibiotics.

If so then I think there's a great chance MMS will help you even longer term.

However I expect unlike antibiotics you're going to feel a lot worse to begin with before you feel better.

I was taking antibiotics for a long time to help with joint pains until I came across MMS

Starting MMS is far from pleasant - most of all the smell / taste of it. But if you can get past the first few weeks then I'm sure you'll see your long term symptoms decrease a lot.
I know I have. Two weeks of taking MMS probably helped me then 2 years of antibiotics. And that wasn't even me doing a full protocol 1000 because I could never take MMS for that long. Although as it turns out I may have been taking much more MMS then I thought because the hole in my MMS bottle's are pretty large.

If you find MMS really hard to take with water then look up the posts about taking it with Cola.
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