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31 Mar 2021 20:32 #68490
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I just watched a video with dr. kalcker in which he said one should not drink coffee at any time during the protocol. he said it would make the cds 0% efficient. is this true? i have not heard this other places. i understood if you drink it first thing in the morning and an hour or two away from dosing that it is fine. can anyone clarify? what if even switching to decaf if regular is a problem?
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01 Apr 2021 06:19 #68496
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Coffee is quite high in antioxidants. After one or two hours, they may still be present in your body.
It would be best to drink coffee 1 hour after your last MMS dose of the day.
It would be best to drink coffee 1 hour after your last MMS dose of the day.
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01 Apr 2021 11:17 #68497
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that would mean drinking coffee at night instead of morning which i wouldn't do anyway. i'll have to check in with my intuition. thank you!
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06 Apr 2021 01:29 #68554
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please keep us posted...I just took my very first dose of mms & am now sitting here 1/2 thru a cup of coffee!
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10 Apr 2021 11:47 #68612
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I'm following on this too , waiting for valuable information
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11 Apr 2021 15:11 #68628
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A question I've been having and wanted to get others thoughts on, is, when drinking a high antioxidant tea or coffee (i drink yerba mate), could the antioxidant value be exhausted by a larger dose of clo2 following your antioxidant intake?
As an example, if you drink a couple of cups of coffee in the morning (aprox. 16oz) then the following procedure may provide the answer.
1. take 16oz of water
2. add clo2 (whether it be cds or mms),
3. test it with clo2 strips,
4 take 16oz of coffee (or tea),
5. put the same amount of clo2 in it, then test it.
You will see that the clo2 level has dropped but if you
6. dose it again with the same amount of clo2
7. test it.
You will see that the antioxidants are being exhausted, and the clo2 level is rising
So then if you follow this through, it would then make sense that if you take the amount of clo2 necessary to exhaust the antioxidants on top of the normal dose, it will have made up for
the loss of effect that the coffee would produce.
any thoughts?
As an example, if you drink a couple of cups of coffee in the morning (aprox. 16oz) then the following procedure may provide the answer.
1. take 16oz of water
2. add clo2 (whether it be cds or mms),
3. test it with clo2 strips,
4 take 16oz of coffee (or tea),
5. put the same amount of clo2 in it, then test it.
You will see that the clo2 level has dropped but if you
6. dose it again with the same amount of clo2
7. test it.
You will see that the antioxidants are being exhausted, and the clo2 level is rising
So then if you follow this through, it would then make sense that if you take the amount of clo2 necessary to exhaust the antioxidants on top of the normal dose, it will have made up for
the loss of effect that the coffee would produce.
any thoughts?
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12 Apr 2021 08:58 #68638
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MMS2 (calcium hypochlorite in capsules) has no restrictions against taking with anti-oxidants. You could still have your morning coffee along with a MMS2 capsule.
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12 Apr 2021 09:16 - 12 Apr 2021 09:17 #68639
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The following is from Jim Humble's book, MMS Health Recovery Guidebook, on the Disclaimer page:
"MMS1 and MMS2 are oxidizers that destroy poisons and kill pathogens by oxidation."
Oxidizers, such as MMS1 and MMS2 can be neutralized by antioxidants.
On page 122 he says this:
"3. Neutralizing MMS in the Body: Coffee, decaffeinated coffee, caffeinated tea, some herbal teas, milk, alcohol, coconut water, orange juice, tangerine juice and all juices with added Vitamin C or ascorbic acid, will directly neutralize MMS. (Vitamin C naturally found in fruits and vegetables in moderate amounts are OK.) Foods and supplements that have exceptionally high amounts of antioxidants such as moringa, must not be taken while on the MMS protocols. (See pages 42-45, 52, 56.)"
"MMS1 and MMS2 are oxidizers that destroy poisons and kill pathogens by oxidation."
Oxidizers, such as MMS1 and MMS2 can be neutralized by antioxidants.
On page 122 he says this:
"3. Neutralizing MMS in the Body: Coffee, decaffeinated coffee, caffeinated tea, some herbal teas, milk, alcohol, coconut water, orange juice, tangerine juice and all juices with added Vitamin C or ascorbic acid, will directly neutralize MMS. (Vitamin C naturally found in fruits and vegetables in moderate amounts are OK.) Foods and supplements that have exceptionally high amounts of antioxidants such as moringa, must not be taken while on the MMS protocols. (See pages 42-45, 52, 56.)"
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13 Apr 2021 14:46 #68658
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CLO2, do you have any thoughts about my post about exhausting the antioxidants with a higher does following coffee (or whatever antioxidant)?
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13 Apr 2021 22:48 #68660
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Yes, I think if you add more CLO2 to your doses, that could cancel the antioxidant influence of coffee against the oxidizer CLO2. How much would be needed is unknown. Trial and error might get a recipe.
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