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CDS protocol for kitty with FIP virus, HELP! 07 Jan 2014 19:23 #38378

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I started doubling the dose to 2 ml every 1-2 hours since yesterday morning.

I have watched this video of Jim Humble making CDS several times. This is a good way to make 1 liter bottle (8 times 4 oz drink for the whole day). However, I wanted to make a strong enough CDS for making kitty's dosages. To me the boiling method is easier and efficient plus I didn't want to get the gas into my mouth or make another hole into the nipple. Here in this video the goal is to get the PPM betwee 30 to 50, but now Pam is saying that it should shoot for 100ppm.

I will do a new batch of CDS today now that I have the test strips. This time I'll do one ounce of MMS to one ounce of 50% citric acid activator then shoot for 30-50 or 100PPM? Which one?

Please advice. Thank you all!

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CDS protocol for kitty with FIP virus, HELP! 07 Jan 2014 19:27 #38379

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Pam, I thought to test the CDS I need 1ml of CDS into 9ml of water... but you said 30ml of water. Did you mean to say 9ml? I thought I have seen a video of Jim Humble testing it with 1ml CDS and 9ml water. Please advice.

The overnight method does look easier to me but I haven't done it yet and I don't want to mess up now. Need to make my batch pronto.

Gracias!

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CDS protocol for kitty with FIP virus, HELP! 07 Jan 2014 20:30 #38381

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30ml. is what I said. <G> This is just for testing the strength of the CDS.

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CDS protocol for kitty with FIP virus, HELP! 08 Jan 2014 22:08 #38430

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Pam, I mixed a new batch of CDS yesterday; 1oz MMS (22.4 %) with 1oz citric acid (50%) into 8oz distilled water. Tested CDS per your instructions, thank you; 1ml CDS into 30ml of water, stirred a bit, slipped test strip in and read 100 in the test strip scale. Bingo! So I got 30ml x 100ppm = 3000ppm finally! Poor kitty all this time being dosed at 300ppm. :(. This new batch is pretty potent stuff.

Now for kitty's dossages (7-8 times a day?) Sorry, I need to review this part please be patient with me. I put 1ml of this new potent batch of CDS into 12ml of distilled water, per your instructions. At this time I want her to get the 3 drops of MMS which is 1ml of CDS, right? So I use this 13ml of CDS mix to give kitty her dosages throughout the day. I put part of the CDS mix into 3ml syringed filled with distilled water and I give it to her. Is this correct?

Kitty is still eating, going to the bathroom and bathing herself. Her belly is filled with fluid again but just went to the vet and she is better now. She came home and went straight to her food dishes right away. Vet says to continue what I'm doing and that it is really good she is still eating and bathing herself. Keeping my fingers crossed.

One more thing, does anyone know if an infusion of CDS would benefit a kitty? If so, how do you mix it? into saline solution in what strength? The vet was curious about that.

Thank you again!
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CDS protocol for kitty with FIP virus, HELP! 08 Jan 2014 22:57 #38431

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An "infusion" (I assume you mean an injection?) might be too painful - CDS is pretty acid and even when the acidity is brought up by adding alkaline unactivated MMS, it hurts. I tried it in my hand.

Please know that when we make MMS we are using sodium chlorite that is 28% of the total weight of the final mixture. It is called 22.4% because the sodium chlorite is only 80% sodium chlorite. So 80% of 28% is 22.4%. If you were making MMS, you would not weigh things out at 22.4% - you would weigh at 28%.

I don't remember anything about 12mL. I would start with 1ml of the CDS and mix it with 1 oz of the water, then pull 3mL out of that mixture and syringe it into the cat. Save what is left, and dose your cat hourly with the 3mL until the 30mL is gone. You can up the dose of CDS over the next few days.
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CDS protocol for kitty with FIP virus, HELP! 09 Jan 2014 06:02 #38451

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I meant an IV but that would be painful also. Thank you for the explanation on MMS sodium chlorite 28%.

Pam, thank you for the easy mixing/dosing instructions. I did notice today that twice my kitty started to react to the CDS I gave her with a strange cough or gagging reaction as if she was nauseous. I felt really bad for her, this never happened before I thought she was chocking, but I know this batch of CDS is really strong. I'll begin your new dosing instructions tomorrow I'm sure it'll be a lot better.

"start with 1ml of the CDS and mix it with 1 oz of the water, then pull 3mL out of that mixture and syringe it into the cat. Save what is left, and dose your cat hourly with the 3mL until the 30mL is gone"
When the 30ml is gone that means I'm done with the dosing for the day, right? :huh: How do I up the dose of CDS? I thought the max dosage for kittens is 1ml. How many weeks should I keep her at maximum dosage? Remember, she is only 4 1/2 months old and weighs about 4-5 pounds if not less; she have lost some weight.

I know for sure she is going to hate me after this; syringing her all day long plus the eye drops. Mama mia!

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CDS protocol for kitty with FIP virus, HELP! 09 Jan 2014 22:13 #38484

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Well, you're done with 10 doses - if that means the day, that means the day - if you have to keep it over until the next day, it should be fine as long as it's kept capped and cool.

Sounds like the CDS was burning her throat a bit - yes, a bit strong.
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CDS protocol for kitty with FIP virus, HELP! 10 Jan 2014 00:33 #38491

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One batch too weak and one batch too strong...I better get it right. Retested my CDS batch and it sure tested too strong (250ppm x 30 = 7500) ...did it get stronger in the fridge? I had to add a few ounces of distilled water and tested again, got 100ppm. This remixed batch tasted better, not as strong and not as yellow.

This new dose mixture of 1ml CDS with 1oz water is much easier and it hasn't made kitty gag. :). So hopefully this will be my morning ritual. Last week I ordered a CDS bottle for a backup but it hasn't come in yet. I think I'm ok now.

Thank you so much Pam, you are my guardian angel! :) Kitty still eating a little bit.
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CDS protocol for kitty with FIP virus, HELP! 19 Jan 2014 20:52 #38956

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I wanted to give you an update with our kitty Cassie. She was doing great until this last Tuesday when she developed an upper respiratory infection on top of the FIP. She then stopped eating and drinking...made her very lethargic and had difficulty breathing. It was a hard decission to make but we had to let her go. I believe she is in a better place now. We are going to miss her so much. She gave us so much joy and wonderful memories. We will never forget Cassie our most loving, affectionate and sweet kitty in the world!

Note: I believe that MMS allowed Cassie to live at least another three weeks with pretty good quality of life. I imagine if we could have started her with the protocol earlier in her life she probably would have overcome this fatal FIP virus. The problem is that by the time FIP is diagnosed the desease is in an advance stage.

My son is doing a lot better than me with the grieving. He has supported me tremendously taking care of kitty plus he now knows a lot about MMS. What a great education and experience for all of us. In fact he actually took some MMS on his first sign of a flu last Monday and was able to go to school the rest of the week while his friends where sick at home for the whole week. This was reported to me from a mother that said that all of the kids that went to a party on Friday, including my son, got some kind of a flu and all missed school all week long. Perhaps this flu is the one that got Cassie. :(

With much gratitude to all of you that replied and advised me in this most difficult time. We must continue the research on MMS and alternative therapies in this big jungle of planet Earth.

My best wishes to you,
Nelsa

In loving memory of our kitty Cassie who is now back with the creator.

Do not stand on my grave and weep; I am not there. I do not sleep.
I am a thousand winds that blow. I am the diamond glints on snow.
I am the sunlight on ripened grain. I am the gentle autumn's rain.
When you awaken in the morning's hush, I am the swift uplifting rush
Of quiet birds in the circled flight. I am the soft stars that shine at night.
Do not stand at my grave and cry; I am not there. I did not die.
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