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protocol for horses intramuscular? 01 Feb 2012 15:31 #11360

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I just started on this amazing , miraculous compound and have made my CDS.I am assuming that the protocol 1000 for people would probably be based on three drops of mms per 150 lb ..would this be the same for intramuscular? I have made CDS but am having a bit of a problem with determining the ppm using gatoraid. To me it is not really clear, is it 3000 ppm if the gatoraid turns green in 6 seconds or if it turns clear? my thinking is if I have 3000ppm cds (3 drops of mms equivalent to one ml cds)and a horse 1200lbs. 1200 divided by 150 = 8 ml per 100 ml water? given every hour? is this feasable? Could it be given intravenous?

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Re: protocol for horses intramuscular? 01 Feb 2012 23:37 #11418

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I find that it's easiest to put CDS in the drinking water. My horse regularly comes up for 2 - 3 gallons twice a day from a 5 gal plastic pail. When I see him coming, I add 30 ml CDS to the pail of water. He drinks it without a fuss. This is just for maintenance - He isn't sick.
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Re: protocol for horses intramuscular? 02 Feb 2012 00:26 #11420

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this is a expensive chuckwagon horse with a high grade infection,nothing is helping, the antibiotics are about 20.00 a cc. I did read that in Africa they were using intravenous but I appreciate your feedback. This stuff really has peaked my interest as I have a chemistry background, and I am totally shocked I never heard of it before. 30 mls is pretty weak I'm thinkin for an infection but who knows? this is all new and exciting to me, thankyou
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Re: protocol for horses intramuscular? 02 Feb 2012 00:59 #11421

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Animal dosing per JH's book - I really recommend purchasing the book because he has a whole chapter on animals - much too much for me to post here. This is all in MMS1 formulation, but you can calculate the CDS by realizing that if you have the 3000ppm mixture, it's 1mL=3 drops.

Dosing Animals
Calculating the right dose is crucial so please be careful. This paragraph covers dosing of animals from the size of an elephant to the size of a rat. We divide the animal up into 50 pound parts (25 kg Then we figure out how may drops to give the animal for each 50 pound increment of its weight. For example, if the animal weighs 100 pounds and we are going to give it a 2drop dose, it will get 4 drops. That’s 2 drops for each 50 pound increment of body weight.
If the animal weighs 100 lbs and we are going to give it a 2 drop dose, it will get 4 drops, that is 2 drops for each 50 lb increment of body weight. If a cow weighed 500 lbs that would be ten 50 lb increments. If giving a 2 drop dose figure that 2 x 10 would be 20 drops that this animal would actually get.

I hope that’s clear. If I say, “Give a 500 pound horse a 3 drop dose”, you would be giving the horse 30 drops. Of course if an animal weighed 25 pounds, that is one half of an increment, so if you were giving a 2-­drop dose, it would only get one drop. Remember all these drops must be activated. See below.

Using MMS1 with Animals

For dosing animals, we are always talking about using MMS1 in the form that is currently sold. That is 22.4% sodium chlorite. Don’t be fooled by the bottle saying 28% sodium chlorite powder. That is true, but the powder is only 80% sodium chlorite. Eighty percent of 28% is 22.4%.

When using MMS1, always make sure that it is activated with either citric acid or (in a pinch) vinegar. Use 5 drops of 10% citric acid per drop of MMS1. Other acids can be used, but most of the technology has been developed with a 10% solution of citric acid or a 50% solution of citric acid which is more concentrated and easier to use – just one drop for each drop of MMS1. You can buy citric acid in 50 pound sacks (25 kg sacks) and it is very cheap.

MMS1 is always activated. Thus, when I say “2 drops of MMS1”, you will always know that you must activate each drop with either 5 drops of 10% citric acid or one drop of 50% citric acid. See Chapter 12, General Procedural Information for more about making MMS.


Be Sure to Add Water
You must absolutely add water to MMS1 before it is given to any person or animal. Add at least one ounce for each drop of MMS used. That does not mean each weight increment. For every drop of activated MMS, after the three minutes or 20-­second wait, add one ounce of water. That’s about an eighth of a cup of water for each drop of MMS.

- In the example of the cow that weighed 500 pounds and you used 10 drops of MMS1 for a one-­drop dose, you would use 10 ounces of water (1 ounce (an eighth of a glass) times 10).
Now once the water is added, you can feed it to your sick animal. After the MMS goes down, allow the animal to drink all it wants. It doesn’t matter if what is in the animal’s stomach is diluted a little bit or a lot. All the MMS chemicals will still be in the animal’s body and will be just as effective.

Using MMS2 with Animals
It is not necessary to activate MMS2. I don’t think you will ever be able to sprinkle some MMS2 on the animal’s feed, but I don’t know that for sure. Give it a try;; it might work. Maybe some of them will enjoy the aided digestion. For the most part, you will need to push the MMS2 capsules down their throat and then give them a bit of water, or they will be sorry and you will too. One capsule requires at least a cup of water. Just push the capsule down their throat, slop some water down immediately and then get some more water down to equal at least one cup per capsule.

I have never been able to determine which is more powerful, MMS1 or MMS2. They both seem to get fantastic results. But, of course, we have had years more technology experience with MMS1. Use one capsule size zero for each 200 pounds of body weight. Remember if the animal weighs 100 pounds, that would be half a capsule. Open the capsule and empty half of it and put the lid back on or make up some half-­full capsules.

Since all of our technology has always used size zero capsules, let me suggest that you do too. Then you can follow my suggestions here without trying to work out the problem of how much to use. Just buy the calcium hypochlorite at a pool store according to the instructions I have given above in this chapter. Then fill the capsules by hand.

You can buy a capsule machine for $100 or so at a health food store, but most people just put the powder or granules in a bowl, hold the capsule in their fingers and dip fingers and all into the bowl. Don't tamp the granules down, just fill them. It's fast. Tight fitting latex gloves for your fingers would be best for filling the capsules. ␣

So if your animal is looking a little bad or doesn’t eat or has no energy or any one of a hundred other negative indications, give it a few doses of MMS2. When calculating the number of capsules for the animal, get a good estimation of its weight and then use a standard dose of one capsule for each 200 pounds of the animal’s weight. If you caught the animal when it was just starting to get sick, you can often just sprinkle several capsules on their food or for dogs and cats sometimes you can put it in some beef or chicken broth and they will usually wolf it right down. Generally I have always used MMS1 with dogs and cats, but I am sure MMS2 would work. Use much less than a full capsule with a cat or dog, since they weigh less than 100 pounds, especially cats.

About Nausea, Vomiting, and Diarrhea
This is very important. Some animals cannot vomit, so you must be extra careful not to make them sicker than they already are. When dosed correctly, MMS makes people and animals better, not worse. If your animal is taking MMS and it appears to be getting sicker, then you are probably giving it too much. Getting sicker with MMS is a sign of progress, but progress that’s too fast for the animal’s body, so you must immediately reduce the doses.

If the animal gets diarrhea, stop the doses altogether until the diarrhea stops. Then start them again, but at a reduced dose. That is also true for vomiting and for nausea. Stop MMS until the animal is back to the condition you are treating, and then start again. MMS only causes sickness because it kills the bacteria or viruses too fast and they are dumping too much poison into the body. Slow your treatment down in that case. Allowing diarrhea, vomiting or nausea to continue does not help the animal. In fact, it can kill the animal. See Chapter 15, Signs That MMS is Working.

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Re: protocol for horses intramuscular? 02 Feb 2012 02:05 #11424

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I haven't found anything stronger than about 6000ppm at room temp - 70f. Until you're able to test with chlorine dioxide strips, you would be on the safe side to assume that what you have is the strongest possible sol'n. You have the dose figured so I would get started right away. Are you doing IM in the neck muscle? Watch closely, and if he seems worse, cut the dose in half until he's getting better, but continue on the hourly schedule so that you're not losing ground on the infection. I'd recommend getting the rest of the team onto maintenance as well. Do you have more than 4? Once you're seeing improvement, you can increase the dose again gradually. We're anxiously awaiting your reports. Have the pathogens been identified?
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Re: protocol for horses intramuscular? 02 Feb 2012 03:51 #11431

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From my experience it seems you can take really high oral doses of CDS without problems. I am super sensitive and MMS1 & 2 will give me gut problems. I took 1 tsp (5ml) of 3000 ppm CDS every hr for 8-10 hrs/day for about 10 days and had no nausea or diarrhea. It helped greatly with my symptom which was lung congestion.

I have heard that when Andreas was using CDS on the cows, they were injecting to specific disease sites. The idea was to get it right to the problem area and that is what worked for them. In other words the intramuscular injections were not for treating a whole body infection, at least as they were doing it. I do not know if my info is correct, but the person I spoke with had spoken directly with Andreas.

I think CDS can be used for many things and via many methods so anything is worth trying. Paul I think you are right that we don't usually see anything stronger than 6000 ppm at room temp.

Please keep us posted major1, thanks,

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Re: protocol for horses intramuscular? 02 Feb 2012 22:25 #11492

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I just want to thank you all for being so helpful, I will definately post results! I think we will try injecting the CDS as close to the infection as possible, and in talking with my best friend a phamacist and I might try topical soaked CDS and DMSO dressing with a protective no porous cover and try to absorb the CDS.I'll keep everyone posted, I am very impressed that you people have been so fast and helpful! thankyou
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